European Club Rugby
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@Frye said in NH club rugby:
@Catogrande He has also been relegated to the wing for some 21 year old who would struggle to make the grade at ITM cup. Fairly galling.
I presume you mean Jacob Stockdale who played 16 and scored 9 tries. (CP 18 and 6). He's fairly handy for a 21 yr old. Hopefully, he'll tour in US and Japan in the summer.
@Pot-Hale said in NH club rugby:
@Frye said in NH club rugby:
@Catogrande He has also been relegated to the wing for some 21 year old who would struggle to make the grade at ITM cup. Fairly galling.
I presume you mean Jacob Stockdale who played 16 and scored 9 tries. (CP 18 and 6). He's fairly handy for a 21 yr old. Hopefully, he'll tour in US and Japan in the summer.
Yeah, he looks handy.
Certainly makes sense to invest in a local youth with promise than a foreign star who packs a sad.
I was flabbergasted at the time at the risk Hansen took leaving Piutau out of the RWC squad for 2 rookies flakey under the high ball. I still actually think it was the wrong decision. But clearly they hold 'desire' as a selectable skill , so I'll give them a pass on that now.
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That video reinforces my opinion that he wouldn't make an ITM cup team. I feel bad ripping on the kid but lets be realistic here, half of the highlights are catching the ball and falling over the try line. The other half are against some awful Edinburgh, zebre or age grade defences.
I wouldn't be surprised if this was poor management from the Ulster coaching staff which initiated the issue.
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Jesus that gif makes me sad. What have you done Charles? You look big and disinterested. A huge test career turfed in for some more money doing something you clearly don't enjoy.
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That video reinforces my opinion that he wouldn't make an ITM cup team. I feel bad ripping on the kid but lets be realistic here, half of the highlights are catching the ball and falling over the try line. The other half are against some awful Edinburgh, zebre or age grade defences.
I wouldn't be surprised if this was poor management from the Ulster coaching staff which initiated the issue.
@Frye said in NH club rugby:
That video reinforces my opinion that he wouldn't make an ITM cup team. I feel bad ripping on the kid but lets be realistic here, half of the highlights are catching the ball and falling over the try line. The other half are against some awful Edinburgh, zebre or age grade defences.
Dearie me, we are choosy. Yes some of his tries were against Edinburgh and Zebre, but also against Glasgow, Ospreys and Scarlets.
So okay, he wouldn't make it into an ITM cup team, he'll just have to make do with Ulster and possibly playing for Ireland in the summer.
New Zealand truly is in an exalted place.......
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That video reinforces my opinion that he wouldn't make an ITM cup team. I feel bad ripping on the kid but lets be realistic here, half of the highlights are catching the ball and falling over the try line. The other half are against some awful Edinburgh, zebre or age grade defences.
I wouldn't be surprised if this was poor management from the Ulster coaching staff which initiated the issue.
@Frye said in NH club rugby:
That video reinforces my opinion that he wouldn't make an ITM cup team. I feel bad ripping on the kid but lets be realistic here, half of the highlights are catching the ball and falling over the try line. The other half are against some awful Edinburgh, zebre or age grade defences.
I wouldn't be surprised if this was poor management from the Ulster coaching staff which initiated the issue.
Hasn't stopped Keith Earls having a career and a huge Munster cheerleading squad.
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@Frye said in NH club rugby:
That video reinforces my opinion that he wouldn't make an ITM cup team. I feel bad ripping on the kid but lets be realistic here, half of the highlights are catching the ball and falling over the try line. The other half are against some awful Edinburgh, zebre or age grade defences.
Dearie me, we are choosy. Yes some of his tries were against Edinburgh and Zebre, but also against Glasgow, Ospreys and Scarlets.
So okay, he wouldn't make it into an ITM cup team, he'll just have to make do with Ulster and possibly playing for Ireland in the summer.
New Zealand truly is in an exalted place.......
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@Frye said in NH club rugby:
That video reinforces my opinion that he wouldn't make an ITM cup team. I feel bad ripping on the kid but lets be realistic here, half of the highlights are catching the ball and falling over the try line. The other half are against some awful Edinburgh, zebre or age grade defences.
Dearie me, we are choosy. Yes some of his tries were against Edinburgh and Zebre, but also against Glasgow, Ospreys and Scarlets.
So okay, he wouldn't make it into an ITM cup team, he'll just have to make do with Ulster and possibly playing for Ireland in the summer.
New Zealand truly is in an exalted place.......
@Pot-Hale the unfortunate thing is there are 'highlight' reels out there now of just about every kid who is supposed to be the next big thing, and in a lot of cases many are just catching the ball, maybe a side step or 2 and falling over the line...jeez look at some of Naholo's tries this year, he could literally fall over and still score them...but if you are making a highlight reel about someone specific, you don't wanna include all the team stuff, even if he was involved in your clip
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@Pot-Hale the unfortunate thing is there are 'highlight' reels out there now of just about every kid who is supposed to be the next big thing, and in a lot of cases many are just catching the ball, maybe a side step or 2 and falling over the line...jeez look at some of Naholo's tries this year, he could literally fall over and still score them...but if you are making a highlight reel about someone specific, you don't wanna include all the team stuff, even if he was involved in your clip
@taniwharugby said in NH club rugby:
@Pot-Hale the unfortunate thing is there are 'highlight' reels out there now of just about every kid who is supposed to be the next big thing, and in a lot of cases many are just catching the ball, maybe a side step or 2 and falling over the line...jeez look at some of Naholo's tries this year, he could literally fall over and still score them...but if you are making a highlight reel about someone specific, you don't wanna include all the team stuff, even if he was involved in your clip
Ah thanks bro. I'll, like, bear that in mind for, like, next time I'm err..like, making a highlight reel, like.
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@taniwharugby said in NH club rugby:
@Pot-Hale the unfortunate thing is there are 'highlight' reels out there now of just about every kid who is supposed to be the next big thing, and in a lot of cases many are just catching the ball, maybe a side step or 2 and falling over the line...jeez look at some of Naholo's tries this year, he could literally fall over and still score them...but if you are making a highlight reel about someone specific, you don't wanna include all the team stuff, even if he was involved in your clip
Ah thanks bro. I'll, like, bear that in mind for, like, next time I'm err..like, making a highlight reel, like.
@Pot-Hale wasn't a dig, but I know you are always on defence...more I saw a reel of a supposed big star coming out of NZ and it didn't look like he was anything special.
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@Pot-Hale wasn't a dig, but I know you are always on defence...more I saw a reel of a supposed big star coming out of NZ and it didn't look like he was anything special.
@taniwharugby said in NH club rugby:
@Pot-Hale wasn't a dig, but I know you are always on defence...more I saw a reel of a supposed big star coming out of NZ and it didn't look like he was anything special.
Me always on defence, splutter, splutter?
I did get your point. I was attempting humour in response. Obviously it didn't travel well....
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@taniwharugby said in NH club rugby:
@Pot-Hale wasn't a dig, but I know you are always on defence...more I saw a reel of a supposed big star coming out of NZ and it didn't look like he was anything special.
Me always on defence, splutter, splutter?
I did get your point. I was attempting humour in response. Obviously it didn't travel well....
@Pot-Hale its a long distance for it to travel, so I can see why it lost its steam!
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Damn, that gif was shocking. At first I was just watching the try being scored and thought there's some good interplay going on there. Then I saw Charlie. WTF. It doesn't matter what excuse anyone offers up that was utter punk bullshit. Cipriani got shit for his defence with the Rebels, but when he got beaten in a tackle he'd get up and try and have another go. Piutau just didn't give a shit.
@Pot-Hale Piutau wouldn't make an NPC team either putting that effort in.
@Rapido Hansen was 100% correct in his decision - we won the bloody competition.
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Damn, that gif was shocking. At first I was just watching the try being scored and thought there's some good interplay going on there. Then I saw Charlie. WTF. It doesn't matter what excuse anyone offers up that was utter punk bullshit. Cipriani got shit for his defence with the Rebels, but when he got beaten in a tackle he'd get up and try and have another go. Piutau just didn't give a shit.
@Pot-Hale Piutau wouldn't make an NPC team either putting that effort in.
@Rapido Hansen was 100% correct in his decision - we won the bloody competition.
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@Nepia And yet no one from Ulster appears to be putting the boot into Pienaar's effort to run back in support...
@antipodean said in NH club rugby:
@Nepia And yet no one from Ulster appears to be putting the boot into Pienaar's effort to run back in support...
I was just watching Piutau so have no idea what you're talking about.
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@antipodean said in NH club rugby:
@Nepia And yet no one from Ulster appears to be putting the boot into Pienaar's effort to run back in support...
I was just watching Piutau so have no idea what you're talking about.
@Nepia said in NH club rugby:
@antipodean said in NH club rugby:
@Nepia And yet no one from Ulster appears to be putting the boot into Pienaar's effort to run back in support...
I was just watching Piutau so have no idea what you're talking about.
If only you could watch the gif again...
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@Nepia said in NH club rugby:
@antipodean said in NH club rugby:
@Nepia And yet no one from Ulster appears to be putting the boot into Pienaar's effort to run back in support...
I was just watching Piutau so have no idea what you're talking about.
If only you could watch the gif again...
@antipodean said in NH club rugby:
@Nepia said in NH club rugby:
@antipodean said in NH club rugby:
@Nepia And yet no one from Ulster appears to be putting the boot into Pienaar's effort to run back in support...
I was just watching Piutau so have no idea what you're talking about.
If only you could watch the gif again...
At least Pienaar made an effort to cover the winger in the first place.
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@antipodean said in NH club rugby:
@Nepia said in NH club rugby:
@antipodean said in NH club rugby:
@Nepia And yet no one from Ulster appears to be putting the boot into Pienaar's effort to run back in support...
I was just watching Piutau so have no idea what you're talking about.
If only you could watch the gif again...
At least Pienaar made an effort to cover the winger in the first place.
@pukunui said in NH club rugby:
@antipodean said in NH club rugby:
@Nepia said in NH club rugby:
@antipodean said in NH club rugby:
@Nepia And yet no one from Ulster appears to be putting the boot into Pienaar's effort to run back in support...
I was just watching Piutau so have no idea what you're talking about.
If only you could watch the gif again...
At least Pienaar made an effort to cover the winger in the first place.
So it's all PIutau's fault? Was he supposed to cover everyone?
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The 'chase' afterward showed no effort but it looked to me like he was indicating for someone behind him to take the inside as he was moving out (at that stage he couldn't see any other defender on the wing).
Body language not very encouraging though. He must get bored swimming in the money pit he had installed in the basement at home. -
@antipodean I don't think another player putting in a shitty effort minimises Piutau's pathetic effort. That was plain embarrassing.
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Stade Francais has claimed their first ever European trophy, the European Challenge Cup, after beating Gloucester 25-17.
Official match report: http://www.epcrugby.com/matchcentre/35845.php
