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Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final

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  • RapidoR Rapido

    @mariner4life said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

    @majorrage that may be one of the worst sports "articles" i have ever read

    it reads like a bunch of posts on a sports forum from a slightly older, slightly demented member.

    Fuck off Mark, no one likes you.

    But, he invented the Ageas Bowl. Without that awesome article no one outside Hampshire would have known this.

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    @rapido said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

    @mariner4life said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

    @majorrage that may be one of the worst sports "articles" i have ever read

    it reads like a bunch of posts on a sports forum from a slightly older, slightly demented member.

    Fuck off Mark, no one likes you.

    But, he invented the Ageas Bowl. Without that awesome article no one outside Hampshire would have known this.

    The fact he decides to bring up that South Africa would have played the West Indies in the 80s in the final of a competition that hadn’t been invented between two teams, one of whom wasn’t even allowed to play then, is astonishingly irrelevant horseshit.

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    • MajorStokesM MajorStokes

      I think this article by Aussie arse kissing Pom Mark Nicholas sums up the coverage so far absolutely perfect.

      Waxing lyrical about the Indian player consistently, disappointment when they get out, many an anecdote about pretty much so all teams that play the game apart from NZ, and then a couple of lines dropped in to mention the opposition (who are arguably ahead in this test).

      https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/india-vs-nz-wtc-final-3rd-day-mark-nicholas-modern-heroes-light-up-historic-rose-bowl-1267267

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      @majorrage said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

      I think this article by Aussie arse kissing Pom Mark Nicholas sums up the coverage so far absolutely perfect.

      Waxing lyrical about the Indian player consistently, disappointment when they get out, many an anecdote about pretty much so all teams that play the game apart from NZ, and then a couple of lines dropped in to mention the opposition (who are arguably ahead in this test).

      https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/india-vs-nz-wtc-final-3rd-day-mark-nicholas-modern-heroes-light-up-historic-rose-bowl-1267267

      Commentators get emotionally attached to the "royalty" of the game. Get a bit stuck in the past.
      Kind of like in tennis with Federer being overtaken by Djokovic, many found that hard to accept.

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      • FrankF Frank

        @majorrage said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

        I think this article by Aussie arse kissing Pom Mark Nicholas sums up the coverage so far absolutely perfect.

        Waxing lyrical about the Indian player consistently, disappointment when they get out, many an anecdote about pretty much so all teams that play the game apart from NZ, and then a couple of lines dropped in to mention the opposition (who are arguably ahead in this test).

        https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/india-vs-nz-wtc-final-3rd-day-mark-nicholas-modern-heroes-light-up-historic-rose-bowl-1267267

        Commentators get emotionally attached to the "royalty" of the game. Get a bit stuck in the past.
        Kind of like in tennis with Federer being overtaken by Djokovic, many found that hard to accept.

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        @frank especially when the OG is slowly slipping back into the back and being overtaken by the next big thing/s. That old chestnut of if you go out on top or keep playing until it's clear you should have stopped years ago.

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          https://www.betootaadvocate.com/uncategorized/icc-announce-next-world-test-championship-will-be-played-in-darwin-during-january/?fbclid=IwAR32Nhs24AmRG7yLxrUANaf2RmL5nJ1zqsLlbmza0WOap83JgWsy_iV0v7E

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            Sky Sport is a step backwards in terms of easy access to watch this game. Spark had hour long highlights packages, and full replays on demand. Sky don't seem to have this, it's pretty annoying

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            • nzzpN nzzp

              Sky Sport is a step backwards in terms of easy access to watch this game. Spark had hour long highlights packages, and full replays on demand. Sky don't seem to have this, it's pretty annoying

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              @nzzp said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

              Sky Sport is a step backwards in terms of easy access to watch this game. Spark had hour long highlights packages, and full replays on demand. Sky don't seem to have this, it's pretty annoying

              Sparks cricket coverage is brilliant.
              Apart from live you have your chose of full session replays, long highlights and mini highlights.

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              • canefanC canefan

                I think we want to try to play assertively but not recklessly. We are in the box seat right now, and we want to shut India out of winning the game. At the same time if we can put ourselves in a position to try and win then great. But we don't want to chase a win only to let them back in chance

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                @canefan said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

                I think we want to try to play assertively but not recklessly. We are in the box seat right now, and we want to shut India out of winning the game. At the same time if we can put ourselves in a position to try and win then great. But we don't want to chase a win only to let them back in chance

                This is the right of it - a draw is a shared championship, no need to go all out just yet and risk that.

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                • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                  @Damo @MajorRage @Chris-B some pretty optimistic scenarios you fullas are throwing out 😀

                  Given the way this pitch is playing and the quality of both sides, it seems a draw is the only likely outcome.

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                  @act-crusader said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

                  @Damo @MajorRage @Chris-B some pretty optimistic scenarios you fullas are throwing out 😀

                  Given the way this pitch is playing and the quality of both sides, it seems a draw is the only likely outcome.

                  I agree that a draw is the most likely outcome.

                  I also believe that if everything goes horribly wrong for us on this innings, (like all out for 150) a draw is still very likely. India will still need to bat cautiously because if they collapse we probably can chase them down.

                  Where we perhaps differ is that I believe if we go really well (by scoring really quickly) there is a plausible prospect that we can win.

                  In other words, while I believe draw is by far the most likely result, us winning is a much better bet than us losing. Hence we should take some risks - even undue ones.

                  I am serious that we should try and score at 4 an over + from the start tonight and see what happens. The risk is worth it imo.

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                  • DamoD Damo

                    @act-crusader said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

                    @Damo @MajorRage @Chris-B some pretty optimistic scenarios you fullas are throwing out 😀

                    Given the way this pitch is playing and the quality of both sides, it seems a draw is the only likely outcome.

                    I agree that a draw is the most likely outcome.

                    I also believe that if everything goes horribly wrong for us on this innings, (like all out for 150) a draw is still very likely. India will still need to bat cautiously because if they collapse we probably can chase them down.

                    Where we perhaps differ is that I believe if we go really well (by scoring really quickly) there is a plausible prospect that we can win.

                    In other words, while I believe draw is by far the most likely result, us winning is a much better bet than us losing. Hence we should take some risks - even undue ones.

                    I am serious that we should try and score at 4 an over + from the start tonight and see what happens. The risk is worth it imo.

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                    @damo said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

                    I am serious that we should try and score at 4 an over + from the start tonight and see what happens. The risk is worth it imo.

                    This pitch is hard to bat on. Agree we should play assertive cricket (rather than aggressive), but expecting 4/over from the outset is a big ask.

                    CDG could be a key person for us... 50 quick runs in the context of this game would be sensational. Althouhg - if Pant can't score runs quickly, who can?

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                    • GodderG Godder

                      @canefan said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

                      I think we want to try to play assertively but not recklessly. We are in the box seat right now, and we want to shut India out of winning the game. At the same time if we can put ourselves in a position to try and win then great. But we don't want to chase a win only to let them back in chance

                      This is the right of it - a draw is a shared championship, no need to go all out just yet and risk that.

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                      @godder said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

                      @canefan said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

                      I think we want to try to play assertively but not recklessly. We are in the box seat right now, and we want to shut India out of winning the game. At the same time if we can put ourselves in a position to try and win then great. But we don't want to chase a win only to let them back in chance

                      This is the right of it - a draw is a shared championship, no need to go all out just yet and risk that.

                      A shared championship on the back of a draw is barely a smidgen above losing the test for me. I'd rather we went for it and lost, then just blocked for a draw. Winning is everything.

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                      • nzzpN nzzp

                        Sky Sport is a step backwards in terms of easy access to watch this game. Spark had hour long highlights packages, and full replays on demand. Sky don't seem to have this, it's pretty annoying

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                        @nzzp said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

                        Sky Sport is a step backwards in terms of easy access to watch this game. Spark had hour long highlights packages, and full replays on demand. Sky don't seem to have this, it's pretty annoying

                        Big time. Do Sky not do on demand? I was wanting to watch replays of Euro at my leisure but all I can find is replays, nothing on demand, and there's no option to record games that I can see like there is with the old sky boxes. Am I missing something?or obvious? Or are Sky just that fucking terrible?

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                        • nzzpN nzzp

                          @damo said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

                          I am serious that we should try and score at 4 an over + from the start tonight and see what happens. The risk is worth it imo.

                          This pitch is hard to bat on. Agree we should play assertive cricket (rather than aggressive), but expecting 4/over from the outset is a big ask.

                          CDG could be a key person for us... 50 quick runs in the context of this game would be sensational. Althouhg - if Pant can't score runs quickly, who can?

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                          @nzzp said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

                          @damo said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

                          I am serious that we should try and score at 4 an over + from the start tonight and see what happens. The risk is worth it imo.

                          This pitch is hard to bat on. Agree we should play assertive cricket (rather than aggressive), but expecting 4/over from the outset is a big ask.

                          CDG could be a key person for us... 50 quick runs in the context of this game would be sensational. Althouhg - if Pant can't score runs quickly, who can?

                          Pants dismissal was embarrassing for any cricketer let alone an international.
                          It looked like something from the family unco at the post Xmas dinner backyard bash.

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                          • No QuarterN No Quarter

                            @nzzp said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

                            Sky Sport is a step backwards in terms of easy access to watch this game. Spark had hour long highlights packages, and full replays on demand. Sky don't seem to have this, it's pretty annoying

                            Big time. Do Sky not do on demand? I was wanting to watch replays of Euro at my leisure but all I can find is replays, nothing on demand, and there's no option to record games that I can see like there is with the old sky boxes. Am I missing something?or obvious? Or are Sky just that fucking terrible?

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                            @no-quarter said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

                            @nzzp said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

                            Sky Sport is a step backwards in terms of easy access to watch this game. Spark had hour long highlights packages, and full replays on demand. Sky don't seem to have this, it's pretty annoying

                            Big time. Do Sky not do on demand? I was wanting to watch replays of Euro at my leisure but all I can find is replays, nothing on demand, and there's no option to record games that I can see like there is with the old sky boxes. Am I missing something?or obvious? Or are Sky just that fucking terrible?

                            Option B

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                            • No QuarterN No Quarter

                              @nzzp said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

                              Sky Sport is a step backwards in terms of easy access to watch this game. Spark had hour long highlights packages, and full replays on demand. Sky don't seem to have this, it's pretty annoying

                              Big time. Do Sky not do on demand? I was wanting to watch replays of Euro at my leisure but all I can find is replays, nothing on demand, and there's no option to record games that I can see like there is with the old sky boxes. Am I missing something?or obvious? Or are Sky just that fucking terrible?

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                              @no-quarter said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

                              Or are Sky just that fucking terrible?

                              they've only just figured out that VOD and streaaming could be a thing their customers want.... and maybe the sunset industry they are in could improve. I hope htey change up, as Spark are a generation ahead in tech right now

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                              • CrucialC Crucial

                                @nzzp said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

                                @damo said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

                                I am serious that we should try and score at 4 an over + from the start tonight and see what happens. The risk is worth it imo.

                                This pitch is hard to bat on. Agree we should play assertive cricket (rather than aggressive), but expecting 4/over from the outset is a big ask.

                                CDG could be a key person for us... 50 quick runs in the context of this game would be sensational. Althouhg - if Pant can't score runs quickly, who can?

                                Pants dismissal was embarrassing for any cricketer let alone an international.
                                It looked like something from the family unco at the post Xmas dinner backyard bash.

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                                @crucial I eventually found the extended highlights buried in the basement (@snowy)

                                https://www.skysportnow.co.nz/category/cricket

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                                • nzzpN nzzp

                                  @no-quarter said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

                                  Or are Sky just that fucking terrible?

                                  they've only just figured out that VOD and streaaming could be a thing their customers want.... and maybe the sunset industry they are in could improve. I hope htey change up, as Spark are a generation ahead in tech right now

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                                  @nzzp said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

                                  @no-quarter said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

                                  Or are Sky just that fucking terrible?

                                  they've only just figured out that VOD and streaaming could be a thing their customers want.... and maybe the sunset industry they are in could improve. I hope htey change up, as Spark are a generation ahead in tech right now

                                  I don't know how we ever managed without on demand TV before

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                                    If you'd like to see some real Cricket reporting and journalism , check out Jarrod Kimber. Currently he's a lone voice in the wilderness in terms of reporting on the Black caps with any degree of objectivity. An Absolute antidote to the BCCI cocksmokers

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                                    • MajorStokesM MajorStokes

                                      I think this article by Aussie arse kissing Pom Mark Nicholas sums up the coverage so far absolutely perfect.

                                      Waxing lyrical about the Indian player consistently, disappointment when they get out, many an anecdote about pretty much so all teams that play the game apart from NZ, and then a couple of lines dropped in to mention the opposition (who are arguably ahead in this test).

                                      https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/india-vs-nz-wtc-final-3rd-day-mark-nicholas-modern-heroes-light-up-historic-rose-bowl-1267267

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                                      @majorrage said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

                                      I think this article by Aussie arse kissing Pom Mark Nicholas sums up the coverage so far absolutely perfect.

                                      Waxing lyrical about the Indian player consistently, disappointment when they get out, many an anecdote about pretty much so all teams that play the game apart from NZ, and then a couple of lines dropped in to mention the opposition (who are arguably ahead in this test).

                                      https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/india-vs-nz-wtc-final-3rd-day-mark-nicholas-modern-heroes-light-up-historic-rose-bowl-1267267

                                      I didn’t get far into that wank fest before abandoning ship. Keep trying to keep yourself relevant Mark.

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                                        Mark Nicholas is a muppet - zero surprises he wrote that rubbish. His awful commentary was the same.

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                                        • MajorStokesM MajorStokes

                                          @godder said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

                                          @canefan said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

                                          I think we want to try to play assertively but not recklessly. We are in the box seat right now, and we want to shut India out of winning the game. At the same time if we can put ourselves in a position to try and win then great. But we don't want to chase a win only to let them back in chance

                                          This is the right of it - a draw is a shared championship, no need to go all out just yet and risk that.

                                          A shared championship on the back of a draw is barely a smidgen above losing the test for me. I'd rather we went for it and lost, then just blocked for a draw. Winning is everything.

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                                          @majorrage said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

                                          @godder said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

                                          @canefan said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

                                          I think we want to try to play assertively but not recklessly. We are in the box seat right now, and we want to shut India out of winning the game. At the same time if we can put ourselves in a position to try and win then great. But we don't want to chase a win only to let them back in chance

                                          This is the right of it - a draw is a shared championship, no need to go all out just yet and risk that.

                                          A shared championship on the back of a draw is barely a smidgen above losing the test for me. I'd rather we went for it and lost, then just blocked for a draw. Winning is everything.

                                          I'm with you 100% on this.

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