Super Rugby Trans Tasman
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@arhs said in Chiefs v Rebels:
Or is the issue simply that our coaches cynically train players in the grey areas of the laws to see what they can get away with
this without a doubt happens.
@mariner4life said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:
@arhs said in Chiefs v Rebels:
Or is the issue simply that our coaches cynically train players in the grey areas of the laws to see what they can get away with
this without a doubt happens.
i have to say i was surprised with my new club, we have a forwards consultant who has gone around several clubs in Melbourne. He is blatant with some of the grey...and not so grey...aspects and openly coached them, nothing dangerous mind you, not deliberate collapsed scrums or something. Last time I plays there were dark arts but it was more of a personal thing, you worked out how you wanted to bed the rules yourself
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@mariner4life said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:
@arhs said in Chiefs v Rebels:
Or is the issue simply that our coaches cynically train players in the grey areas of the laws to see what they can get away with
this without a doubt happens.
i have to say i was surprised with my new club, we have a forwards consultant who has gone around several clubs in Melbourne. He is blatant with some of the grey...and not so grey...aspects and openly coached them, nothing dangerous mind you, not deliberate collapsed scrums or something. Last time I plays there were dark arts but it was more of a personal thing, you worked out how you wanted to bed the rules yourself
@kiwiwomble This happens in any professional sport. I've heard that players get fined in the EPL if they don't tactically foul.
There are tonnes of grey areas in rugby, so it stands to reason that this happens a lot.
Collapsing scrums is a notorious NH tactic to close out a game.
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@kiwiwomble This happens in any professional sport. I've heard that players get fined in the EPL if they don't tactically foul.
There are tonnes of grey areas in rugby, so it stands to reason that this happens a lot.
Collapsing scrums is a notorious NH tactic to close out a game.
@derpus i was with you right until the end. Collapsing scrums is notorious tactic everywhere to close out a game. Pushing the boundaries on the field is not the domain of one team, country, or region. Every single rugby team on the planet tries to get away with what ever they can. And if they are not, tehn they are not trying.
Any fan who thinks their team is "cleaner" than another is delusional and not worth chatting with.
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i find deliberate collapsing reprehensible, its one thing ive never come across someone advocating for in person but i know its out there
knowing a guy, how lost his ability to walk in a collapsed scrum really clarified what is right and wrong for me
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@derpus i was with you right until the end. Collapsing scrums is notorious tactic everywhere to close out a game. Pushing the boundaries on the field is not the domain of one team, country, or region. Every single rugby team on the planet tries to get away with what ever they can. And if they are not, tehn they are not trying.
Any fan who thinks their team is "cleaner" than another is delusional and not worth chatting with.
@mariner4life I think you are misconstruing what I meant.
The Wallabies couldn't close out a game to save their fucking lives, whether it's collapsing a scrum or otherwise. I think the NH teams are very good at it. Perhaps 'notorious' was the wrong word.
You also rarely see it from the Darkness because, well, they rarely need to.
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Here are your referees for Round 5.
Hurricanes v Reds
Friday 11 June, 7:05pm
Sky Stadium, Wellington
Referee: James Doleman
Assistant 1: Angus Mabey
Assistant 2: Dan Waenga
TMO: Aaron PatersonBrumbies v Highlanders
Friday 11 June, 9:45pm
GIO Stadium, Canberra
Referee: Mike Fraser
Assistant 1: Graham Cooper
Assistant 2: Rueben Keane
TMO: Brett CronanRebels v Crusaders
Saturday 12 June, 4:35pm
Leichardt Oval, Sydney
Referee: Nic Berry
Assistant 1: Graham Cooper
Assistant 2: Matt Kellahan
TMO: James LeckieBlues v Force
Saturday 12 June, 7:05pm
Eden Park, Auckland
Referee: Ben O’Keeffe
Assistant 1: Paul Williams
Assistant 2: Angus Mabey
TMO: Brendon PickerillWaratahs v Chiefs
Saturday 12 June, 9:45pm
Brookvale Oval, Manly
Referee: Jordan Way
Assistant 1: Damon Murphy
Assistant 2: Reuben Keane
TMO: Brett Cronan -
It's been fun-ish. A wee bit too much messy Rugby for my liking though.
I assume next year the games will be mixed up more between trans-tasman and games between franchises from the same country and it will be a single competition.
@sparky said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:
It's been fun-ish. A wee bit too much messy Rugby for my liking though.
I assume next year the games will be mixed up more between trans-tasman and games between franchises from the same country and it will be a single competition.
I’m not a fan of the two seperate comps. Needs to be combined somehow
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@sparky said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:
It's been fun-ish. A wee bit too much messy Rugby for my liking though.
I assume next year the games will be mixed up more between trans-tasman and games between franchises from the same country and it will be a single competition.
I’m not a fan of the two seperate comps. Needs to be combined somehow
@kirwan said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:
@sparky said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:
It's been fun-ish. A wee bit too much messy Rugby for my liking though.
I assume next year the games will be mixed up more between trans-tasman and games between franchises from the same country and it will be a single competition.
I’m not a fan of the two seperate comps. Needs to be combined somehow
If we combined the tables, would we get the Saders versus Blues in Christchurch?
If so that seems about right.
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@kiwiwomble said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:
Brumbies with a Pasifika jersey
pretty cool, i do love the irony of a landlocked region with the boat and ocean on the front of their jersey
Is that a scene from the film Moana on the front of the jersey?
@stargazer said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:
@kiwiwomble said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:
Brumbies with a Pasifika jersey
pretty cool, i do love the irony of a landlocked region with the boat and ocean on the front of their jersey
Is that a scene from the film Moana on the front of the jersey?
I think it is Johnny Depp at sea but on a bender. As a zombie cannibal.
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This comp is like taking the Premier League and pitting it against the MLS and expecting a meaningful result. It wouldn't be a surprise if West Brom and Leeds United beat up on their MLS opposition the most and played a final.
@shark said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:
This comp is like taking the Premier League and pitting it against the MLS and expecting a meaningful result.
Exaggerating for effect but it does reveal an underlying truth -- TT is not a meaningful comp.
A six month timeframe before 2022 is too short to make a transnational full-season model work.
Australia needs to largely go its own way at pro level.
There is enough raw material and unharnessed financial muscle for the game to build from, plenty, in fact. But first and foremost domestic is the way ahead.
Across the Ta$man games added - absolutely, but you can't base a whole season on that now.
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@shark said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:
This comp is like taking the Premier League and pitting it against the MLS and expecting a meaningful result.
Exaggerating for effect but it does reveal an underlying truth -- TT is not a meaningful comp.
A six month timeframe before 2022 is too short to make a transnational full-season model work.
Australia needs to largely go its own way at pro level.
There is enough raw material and unharnessed financial muscle for the game to build from, plenty, in fact. But first and foremost domestic is the way ahead.
Across the Ta$man games added - absolutely, but you can't base a whole season on that now.
@kiap said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:
@shark said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:
This comp is like taking the Premier League and pitting it against the MLS and expecting a meaningful result.
Exaggerating for effect but it does reveal an underlying truth -- TT is not a meaningful comp.
A six month timeframe before 2022 is too short to make a transnational full-season model work.
Australia needs to largely go its own way at pro level.
There is enough raw material and unharnessed financial muscle for the game to build from, plenty, in fact. But first and foremost domestic is the way ahead.
Across the Ta$man games added - absolutely, but you can't base a whole season on that now.
Yawn.
The more you play NZ teams the better you’ll get. Otherwise just become the 80s South Africa and play your Shute Shield and make up your own laws.
The negativity from Australian posters on forums is off the charts, yet you talk to Oz rugby fans in real life and they’re more than happy with a combined comp knowing that you’ll stagnate otherwise.
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dont know if i have this right but if you take last round of aotearoa and tt and combine
table would look
highlander 33
blues 32
crusader 32
chiefs 31
hurricanes 31@ploughboy Why would you only take the last round of SRA?
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dont know if i have this right but if you take last round of aotearoa and tt and combine
table would look
highlander 33
blues 32
crusader 32
chiefs 31
hurricanes 31@ploughboy said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:
dont know if i have this right but if you take last round of aotearoa and tt and combine
table would look
highlander 33
blues 32
crusader 32
chiefs 31
hurricanes 31I think it's more relevant to take the full SRA and SRAU tables and add the SRTT points, and see how it looks for all ten teams. How would that look? I say more relevant because it's likely next year we'll have the same games, just intermingled, rather than two rounds of derbies then a cross over comp.
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@ploughboy Why would you only take the last round of SRA?
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@stargazer
because that gave a full round against everyone and our second round run into trans Ta$man@ploughboy You could also take the first round.
