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  • P ploughboy

    dont know if i have this right but if you take last round of aotearoa and tt and combine
    table would look
    highlander 33
    blues 32
    crusader 32
    chiefs 31
    hurricanes 31

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    @ploughboy Why would you only take the last round of SRA?

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    • P ploughboy

      dont know if i have this right but if you take last round of aotearoa and tt and combine
      table would look
      highlander 33
      blues 32
      crusader 32
      chiefs 31
      hurricanes 31

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      @ploughboy said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

      dont know if i have this right but if you take last round of aotearoa and tt and combine
      table would look
      highlander 33
      blues 32
      crusader 32
      chiefs 31
      hurricanes 31

      I think it's more relevant to take the full SRA and SRAU tables and add the SRTT points, and see how it looks for all ten teams. How would that look? I say more relevant because it's likely next year we'll have the same games, just intermingled, rather than two rounds of derbies then a cross over comp.

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      • StargazerS Stargazer

        @ploughboy Why would you only take the last round of SRA?

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        @stargazer
        because that gave a full round against everyone and our second round run into trans Ta$man

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        • P ploughboy

          @stargazer
          because that gave a full round against everyone and our second round run into trans Ta$man

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          @ploughboy You could also take the first round.

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          • StargazerS Stargazer

            @ploughboy Why would you only take the last round of SRA?

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            @stargazer
            that way we play all teams once not twice against harder teams for us. i found it interesting how close the points ended up

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              I wonder if all this draw/combining tables of two separate competitions would be discussed if the Crusaders hadn’t missed out. 😝

              The Chiefs got a shit draw, but they knew what to do to be successful. They weren’t. Same with the other two teams who didn’t make the final.

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              • NepiaN Nepia

                I wonder if all this draw/combining tables of two separate competitions would be discussed if the Crusaders hadn’t missed out. 😝

                The Chiefs got a shit draw, but they knew what to do to be successful. They weren’t. Same with the other two teams who didn’t make the final.

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                @nepia i dont support the crusaders. just thought it would be interesting

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                • NepiaN Nepia

                  I wonder if all this draw/combining tables of two separate competitions would be discussed if the Crusaders hadn’t missed out. 😝

                  The Chiefs got a shit draw, but they knew what to do to be successful. They weren’t. Same with the other two teams who didn’t make the final.

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                  @nepia Nah, they did it on the Breakdown a few weeks back. It's all pointless anyway. We played two rounds; we played two separte comps. One was great; the second was not.

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                  • StargazerS Stargazer

                    @nepia Nah, they did it on the Breakdown a few weeks back. It's all pointless anyway. We played two rounds; we played two separte comps. One was great; the second was not.

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                    @stargazer said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

                    @nepia Nah, they did it on the Breakdown a few weeks back. It's all pointless anyway. We played two rounds; we played two separte comps. One was great; the second was not.

                    I liked the second, I liked seeing the Aussie players up against NZers.

                    Maybe you need to join @Kiap and the other Aussies on forums sucking on lemons. (Joke)

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                    • NepiaN Nepia

                      I wonder if all this draw/combining tables of two separate competitions would be discussed if the Crusaders hadn’t missed out. 😝

                      The Chiefs got a shit draw, but they knew what to do to be successful. They weren’t. Same with the other two teams who didn’t make the final.

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                      @nepia said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

                      I wonder if all this draw/combining tables of two separate competitions would be discussed if the Crusaders hadn’t missed out. 😝

                      The Chiefs got a shit draw, but they knew what to do to be successful. They weren’t. Same with the other two teams who didn’t make the final.

                      I'm not discussing this because I think that's how it should have been done. The SRTT comp in this format has never bothered me as it's just a bit of a 'meh' event. I'm only curious about it (the table) because it's been raised.

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                        Crucial
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                        Just a few numbers to ponder.

                        Force were beaten on average by 13 points a game..
                        Rebels by 24.
                        Tahs by 27.

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                        • NepiaN Nepia

                          @stargazer said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

                          @nepia Nah, they did it on the Breakdown a few weeks back. It's all pointless anyway. We played two rounds; we played two separte comps. One was great; the second was not.

                          I liked the second, I liked seeing the Aussie players up against NZers.

                          Maybe you need to join @Kiap and the other Aussies on forums sucking on lemons. (Joke)

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                          @nepia I found it boring for different reasons. I didn't know what to expect, but I hoped the Aussie teams would be more competitive. Sure, some of them put up a fight (particularly the Force), but overall it was a snooze- fest. TT was like @Frank said in another thread "about how much you can thrash the Aussie teams". That's not my idea of a good, exciting comp.

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                          • StargazerS Stargazer

                            @nepia I found it boring for different reasons. I didn't know what to expect, but I hoped the Aussie teams would be more competitive. Sure, some of them put up a fight (particularly the Force), but overall it was a snooze- fest. TT was like @Frank said in another thread "about how much you can thrash the Aussie teams". That's not my idea of a good, exciting comp.

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                            @stargazer said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

                            @nepia I found it boring for different reasons. I didn't know what to expect, but I hoped the Aussie teams would be more competitive. Sure, some of them put up a fight (particularly the Force), but overall it was a snooze- fest. TT was like @Frank said in another thread "about how much you can thrash the Aussie teams". That's not my idea of a good, exciting comp.

                            Honestly hoped the reds and brumbies might have been more competitive 😞

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                            • NepiaN Nepia

                              I wonder if all this draw/combining tables of two separate competitions would be discussed if the Crusaders hadn’t missed out. 😝

                              The Chiefs got a shit draw, but they knew what to do to be successful. They weren’t. Same with the other two teams who didn’t make the final.

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                              @nepia said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

                              I wonder if all this draw/combining tables of two separate competitions would be discussed if the Crusaders hadn’t missed out. 😝

                              The Chiefs got a shit draw, but they knew what to do to be successful. They weren’t. Same with the other two teams who didn’t make the final.

                              I am not a Saders supporter, but we all know they are better than both the Blues and Highlanders.

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                                @nepia said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

                                I wonder if all this draw/combining tables of two separate competitions would be discussed if the Crusaders hadn’t missed out. 😝

                                The Chiefs got a shit draw, but they knew what to do to be successful. They weren’t. Same with the other two teams who didn’t make the final.

                                I am not a Saders supporter, but we all know they are better than both the Blues and Highlanders.

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                                @frank said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

                                @nepia said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

                                I wonder if all this draw/combining tables of two separate competitions would be discussed if the Crusaders hadn’t missed out. 😝

                                The Chiefs got a shit draw, but they knew what to do to be successful. They weren’t. Same with the other two teams who didn’t make the final.

                                I am not a Saders supporter, but we all know they are better than both the Blues and Highlanders.

                                you sure about that?
                                https://crusaders.co.nz/latest/news/crusaders-secure-narrow-win-over-the-brumbies-to-open-their-trans-tasman-campaign/

                                Their results against Aussies suggests they are at best comparable

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                                  • P ploughboy

                                    dont know if i have this right but if you take last round of aotearoa and tt and combine
                                    table would look
                                    highlander 33
                                    blues 32
                                    crusader 32
                                    chiefs 31
                                    hurricanes 31

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                                    @ploughboy said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

                                    dont know if i have this right but if you take last round of aotearoa and tt and combine
                                    table would look
                                    highlander 33
                                    blues 32
                                    crusader 32
                                    chiefs 31
                                    hurricanes 31

                                    Crusaders and Blues would be 33; Highlanders 32; Chiefs 31; Hurricanes 28.

                                    But things probably would've played out differently if this was the way the competition was structured. For instance the Chiefs might not have rested all their entire team against the Blues.

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                                      @ploughboy said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

                                      dont know if i have this right but if you take last round of aotearoa and tt and combine
                                      table would look
                                      highlander 33
                                      blues 32
                                      crusader 32
                                      chiefs 31
                                      hurricanes 31

                                      Crusaders and Blues would be 33; Highlanders 32; Chiefs 31; Hurricanes 28.

                                      But things probably would've played out differently if this was the way the competition was structured. For instance the Chiefs might not have rested all their entire team against the Blues.

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                                      @michaelmac
                                      cheers for correcting that.
                                      the thing i found interesting was how close all teams were in points, little bit more spread now but still only 5 points

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                                      • nzzpN nzzp

                                        @frank said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

                                        @nepia said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

                                        I wonder if all this draw/combining tables of two separate competitions would be discussed if the Crusaders hadn’t missed out. 😝

                                        The Chiefs got a shit draw, but they knew what to do to be successful. They weren’t. Same with the other two teams who didn’t make the final.

                                        I am not a Saders supporter, but we all know they are better than both the Blues and Highlanders.

                                        you sure about that?
                                        https://crusaders.co.nz/latest/news/crusaders-secure-narrow-win-over-the-brumbies-to-open-their-trans-tasman-campaign/

                                        Their results against Aussies suggests they are at best comparable

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                                        @nzzp said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

                                        @frank said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

                                        @nepia said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

                                        I wonder if all this draw/combining tables of two separate competitions would be discussed if the Crusaders hadn’t missed out. 😝

                                        The Chiefs got a shit draw, but they knew what to do to be successful. They weren’t. Same with the other two teams who didn’t make the final.

                                        I am not a Saders supporter, but we all know they are better than both the Blues and Highlanders.

                                        you sure about that?
                                        https://crusaders.co.nz/latest/news/crusaders-secure-narrow-win-over-the-brumbies-to-open-their-trans-tasman-campaign/

                                        Their results against Aussies suggests they are at best comparable

                                        I am basing it off when they have actually played each other.
                                        Surely that's a better yardstick.
                                        43-27 to the Saders at Eden Park.
                                        29-6 to the Saders in Christchurch.

                                        Damn certain Blue supporters are happier about having to face the Highlanders than the Saders.

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                                        • NepiaN Nepia

                                          @stargazer said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

                                          @nepia Nah, they did it on the Breakdown a few weeks back. It's all pointless anyway. We played two rounds; we played two separte comps. One was great; the second was not.

                                          I liked the second, I liked seeing the Aussie players up against NZers.

                                          Maybe you need to join @Kiap and the other Aussies on forums sucking on lemons. (Joke)

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                                          @nepia said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man

                                          Maybe you need to join @Kiap and the other Aussies on forums sucking on lemons. (Joke)

                                          My view on it going back a while was the same before a ball was even kicked in TT. No lemons!

                                          @nepia said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

                                          I liked the second, I liked seeing the Aussie players up against NZers.

                                          I also want to see Aussie teams up against NZ teams, and said so today in this thread.

                                          The priority, though, is always an Australian-controlled comp first. That's me.

                                          Others here query the credibility/meaning of a full season combined comp. Why aren't they allowed to? These are good and proper questions.

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