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  • barbarianB barbarian

    I get why they did it, but I'd have liked a one week break between the ending of Super AU/Aeo and the start of Super TT.

    Gives the finalists a chance to recover, the chance for a bit more hype and coverage.

    The Reds are our best side but I can easily see them dropping a game to the Clan given they lose at least Petaia and Wilson from their team with injury, and would be very tempted to rest some of their stars who would be buggered/hungover from a brutal last game.

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    @barbarian said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

    I get why they did it, but I'd have liked a one week break between the ending of Super AU/Aeo and the start of Super TT.

    Gives the finalists a chance to recover, the chance for a bit more hype and coverage.

    The Reds are our best side but I can easily see them dropping a game to the Clan given they lose at least Petaia and Wilson from their team with injury, and would be very tempted to rest some of their stars who would be buggered/hungover from a brutal last game.

    I believe they had to start it right away because of the test schedule/preparation

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    • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

      @antipodean said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

      @barbarian said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

      @snowy said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

      @barbarian said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

      I can easily see them dropping a game to the Clan

      That's why it will be a great comp I reckon. The Clan did a real number on the Crusaders so who knows what next?

      I think admins will be hoping for at least one Aussie win. A 5-0 whitewash will trigger cries of 'here we go again' from both sides of the Ta$man.

      I expect that there won't be a team that gets whitewashed. Even the Tahs may get something in the win column. I also expect a number of people to be surprised at how competitive the two SRAu finalists will be.

      the $3.55 i got on the Reds seems fucking ridiculous

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      @mariner4life said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

      @antipodean said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

      @barbarian said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

      @snowy said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

      @barbarian said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

      I can easily see them dropping a game to the Clan

      That's why it will be a great comp I reckon. The Clan did a real number on the Crusaders so who knows what next?

      I think admins will be hoping for at least one Aussie win. A 5-0 whitewash will trigger cries of 'here we go again' from both sides of the Ta$man.

      I expect that there won't be a team that gets whitewashed. Even the Tahs may get something in the win column. I also expect a number of people to be surprised at how competitive the two SRAu finalists will be.

      the $3.55 i got on the Reds seems fucking ridiculous

      To win the whole thing? Or just to beat the landers?

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      • BonesB Bones

        @mariner4life said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

        @antipodean said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

        @barbarian said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

        @snowy said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

        @barbarian said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

        I can easily see them dropping a game to the Clan

        That's why it will be a great comp I reckon. The Clan did a real number on the Crusaders so who knows what next?

        I think admins will be hoping for at least one Aussie win. A 5-0 whitewash will trigger cries of 'here we go again' from both sides of the Ta$man.

        I expect that there won't be a team that gets whitewashed. Even the Tahs may get something in the win column. I also expect a number of people to be surprised at how competitive the two SRAu finalists will be.

        the $3.55 i got on the Reds seems fucking ridiculous

        To win the whole thing? Or just to beat the landers?

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        @bones said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

        @mariner4life said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

        @antipodean said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

        @barbarian said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

        @snowy said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

        @barbarian said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

        I can easily see them dropping a game to the Clan

        That's why it will be a great comp I reckon. The Clan did a real number on the Crusaders so who knows what next?

        I think admins will be hoping for at least one Aussie win. A 5-0 whitewash will trigger cries of 'here we go again' from both sides of the Ta$man.

        I expect that there won't be a team that gets whitewashed. Even the Tahs may get something in the win column. I also expect a number of people to be surprised at how competitive the two SRAu finalists will be.

        the $3.55 i got on the Reds seems fucking ridiculous

        To win the whole thing? Or just to beat the landers?

        just to beat the Landers

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        • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

          @antipodean said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

          @barbarian said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

          @snowy said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

          @barbarian said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

          I can easily see them dropping a game to the Clan

          That's why it will be a great comp I reckon. The Clan did a real number on the Crusaders so who knows what next?

          I think admins will be hoping for at least one Aussie win. A 5-0 whitewash will trigger cries of 'here we go again' from both sides of the Ta$man.

          I expect that there won't be a team that gets whitewashed. Even the Tahs may get something in the win column. I also expect a number of people to be surprised at how competitive the two SRAu finalists will be.

          the $3.55 i got on the Reds seems fucking ridiculous

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          @mariner4life said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

          @antipodean said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

          @barbarian said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

          @snowy said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

          @barbarian said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

          I can easily see them dropping a game to the Clan

          That's why it will be a great comp I reckon. The Clan did a real number on the Crusaders so who knows what next?

          I think admins will be hoping for at least one Aussie win. A 5-0 whitewash will trigger cries of 'here we go again' from both sides of the Ta$man.

          I expect that there won't be a team that gets whitewashed. Even the Tahs may get something in the win column. I also expect a number of people to be surprised at how competitive the two SRAu finalists will be.

          the $3.55 i got on the Reds seems fucking ridiculous

          According to the TAB, the Reds are the only Oz team with a vague hope.

          Canes $1.03
          Crusaders $1.08
          Chiefs $1.13
          Blues $1.14
          Highlanders $1.31

          https://www.tab.co.nz/sports/competition/15143/matches

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          • Chris B.C Chris B.

            @mariner4life said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

            @antipodean said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

            @barbarian said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

            @snowy said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

            @barbarian said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

            I can easily see them dropping a game to the Clan

            That's why it will be a great comp I reckon. The Clan did a real number on the Crusaders so who knows what next?

            I think admins will be hoping for at least one Aussie win. A 5-0 whitewash will trigger cries of 'here we go again' from both sides of the Ta$man.

            I expect that there won't be a team that gets whitewashed. Even the Tahs may get something in the win column. I also expect a number of people to be surprised at how competitive the two SRAu finalists will be.

            the $3.55 i got on the Reds seems fucking ridiculous

            According to the TAB, the Reds are the only Oz team with a vague hope.

            Canes $1.03
            Crusaders $1.08
            Chiefs $1.13
            Blues $1.14
            Highlanders $1.31

            https://www.tab.co.nz/sports/competition/15143/matches

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            @chris-b said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

            @mariner4life said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

            @antipodean said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

            @barbarian said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

            @snowy said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

            @barbarian said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

            I can easily see them dropping a game to the Clan

            That's why it will be a great comp I reckon. The Clan did a real number on the Crusaders so who knows what next?

            I think admins will be hoping for at least one Aussie win. A 5-0 whitewash will trigger cries of 'here we go again' from both sides of the Ta$man.

            I expect that there won't be a team that gets whitewashed. Even the Tahs may get something in the win column. I also expect a number of people to be surprised at how competitive the two SRAu finalists will be.

            the $3.55 i got on the Reds seems fucking ridiculous

            According to the TAB, the Reds are the only Oz team with a vague hope.

            Canes $1.03
            Crusaders $1.08
            Chiefs $1.13
            Blues $1.14
            Highlanders $1.31

            https://www.tab.co.nz/sports/competition/15143/matches

            if you add one cent to every team, then you have the equivilent at the Aus TAB..(can go to one of the other billion betting sites though for better odds)..so pretty consistent

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            • Chris B.C Chris B.

              @mariner4life said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

              @antipodean said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

              @barbarian said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

              @snowy said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

              @barbarian said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

              I can easily see them dropping a game to the Clan

              That's why it will be a great comp I reckon. The Clan did a real number on the Crusaders so who knows what next?

              I think admins will be hoping for at least one Aussie win. A 5-0 whitewash will trigger cries of 'here we go again' from both sides of the Ta$man.

              I expect that there won't be a team that gets whitewashed. Even the Tahs may get something in the win column. I also expect a number of people to be surprised at how competitive the two SRAu finalists will be.

              the $3.55 i got on the Reds seems fucking ridiculous

              According to the TAB, the Reds are the only Oz team with a vague hope.

              Canes $1.03
              Crusaders $1.08
              Chiefs $1.13
              Blues $1.14
              Highlanders $1.31

              https://www.tab.co.nz/sports/competition/15143/matches

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              @chris-b said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

              According to the TAB, the Reds are the only Oz team with a vague hope.

              ESPN seems to disagree, ranking even the Western Force above the Hurricanes and Highlanders.

              https://www.espn.com.au/rugby/story/_/id/31419393/super-rugby-trans-tasman-power-rankings-round-1

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              • StargazerS Stargazer

                @chris-b said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

                According to the TAB, the Reds are the only Oz team with a vague hope.

                ESPN seems to disagree, ranking even the Western Force above the Hurricanes and Highlanders.

                https://www.espn.com.au/rugby/story/_/id/31419393/super-rugby-trans-tasman-power-rankings-round-1

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                @stargazer said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

                @chris-b said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

                According to the TAB, the Reds are the only Oz team with a vague hope.

                ESPN seems to disagree, ranking even the Western Force above the Hurricanes and Highlanders.

                https://www.espn.com.au/rugby/story/_/id/31419393/super-rugby-trans-tasman-power-rankings-round-1

                think the odds were for this weekends matches.. if you want to back espn on their thoughts you could earn a fair bit.. or lose it just as quickly 🙂

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                  I think the Kiwi teams are unders, but there's still a very decent chance they all win.

                  The Force are the upset chance. Chiefs coming off a bruising final, Force plotting the ambush in Perth, time difference, home crowd, etc.

                  I think that game will be more competitive than many will expect. At very least I'll take a look at the Force at the line (+15.5) at $1.97.

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                  • barbarianB barbarian

                    I think the Kiwi teams are unders, but there's still a very decent chance they all win.

                    The Force are the upset chance. Chiefs coming off a bruising final, Force plotting the ambush in Perth, time difference, home crowd, etc.

                    I think that game will be more competitive than many will expect. At very least I'll take a look at the Force at the line (+15.5) at $1.97.

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                    @barbarian said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

                    I think the Kiwi teams are unders, but there's still a very decent chance they all win.

                    The Force are the upset chance. Chiefs coming off a bruising final, Force plotting the ambush in Perth, time difference, home crowd, etc.

                    I think that game will be more competitive than many will expect. At very least I'll take a look at the Force at the line (+15.5) at $1.97.

                    Chiefs could well take a strategy of going for a decent lead with a close to 'A' team then getting the reserves on early. That points spread does look good.

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                    • barbarianB barbarian

                      I think the Kiwi teams are unders, but there's still a very decent chance they all win.

                      The Force are the upset chance. Chiefs coming off a bruising final, Force plotting the ambush in Perth, time difference, home crowd, etc.

                      I think that game will be more competitive than many will expect. At very least I'll take a look at the Force at the line (+15.5) at $1.97.

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                      @barbarian The Force have always been a banana skin team, esp for NZ teams on their way back from South Africa.

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                      • CrucialC Crucial

                        @barbarian said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

                        I think the Kiwi teams are unders, but there's still a very decent chance they all win.

                        The Force are the upset chance. Chiefs coming off a bruising final, Force plotting the ambush in Perth, time difference, home crowd, etc.

                        I think that game will be more competitive than many will expect. At very least I'll take a look at the Force at the line (+15.5) at $1.97.

                        Chiefs could well take a strategy of going for a decent lead with a close to 'A' team then getting the reserves on early. That points spread does look good.

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                        @crucial said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

                        @barbarian said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

                        I think the Kiwi teams are unders, but there's still a very decent chance they all win.

                        The Force are the upset chance. Chiefs coming off a bruising final, Force plotting the ambush in Perth, time difference, home crowd, etc.

                        I think that game will be more competitive than many will expect. At very least I'll take a look at the Force at the line (+15.5) at $1.97.

                        Chiefs could well take a strategy of going for a decent lead with a close to 'A' team then getting the reserves on early. That points spread does look good.

                        They also have Murphy as the Ref who IMO is out of his depth.
                        He is so far behind Gardener and Berry who are decent refs.

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                        • ChrisC Chris

                          @crucial said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

                          @barbarian said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

                          I think the Kiwi teams are unders, but there's still a very decent chance they all win.

                          The Force are the upset chance. Chiefs coming off a bruising final, Force plotting the ambush in Perth, time difference, home crowd, etc.

                          I think that game will be more competitive than many will expect. At very least I'll take a look at the Force at the line (+15.5) at $1.97.

                          Chiefs could well take a strategy of going for a decent lead with a close to 'A' team then getting the reserves on early. That points spread does look good.

                          They also have Murphy as the Ref who IMO is out of his depth.
                          He is so far behind Gardener and Berry who are decent refs.

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                          @chris said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

                          @crucial said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

                          @barbarian said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

                          I think the Kiwi teams are unders, but there's still a very decent chance they all win.

                          The Force are the upset chance. Chiefs coming off a bruising final, Force plotting the ambush in Perth, time difference, home crowd, etc.

                          I think that game will be more competitive than many will expect. At very least I'll take a look at the Force at the line (+15.5) at $1.97.

                          Chiefs could well take a strategy of going for a decent lead with a close to 'A' team then getting the reserves on early. That points spread does look good.

                          They also have Murphy as the Ref who IMO is out of his depth.
                          He is so far behind Gardener and Berry who are decent refs.

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                          • nzzpN nzzp

                            anyone got a link to the points system,a nd how the finalists will be decided?

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                            @nzzp said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

                            anyone got a link to the points system,a nd how the finalists will be decided?

                            Finally someone posted all the info. Strangely it was the Blues website:

                            https://blues.rugby/super-rugby-trans-tasman-let-the-anzac-battles-resume/

                            There is a final at the end of the five-week competition. The leading team has the hosting rights against the second placed team of the 10 competing clubs.

                            It might be two Australian teams in the final, or two New Zealand or one of each.

                            Points are as usual – 4 points for a win, 2 points for a draw (there is NO golden point extra time). The bonus points are 1 Point for scoring a minimum three tries more than your opponent; and 1 Point for a loss by seven points or less.

                            If teams are tied on points, the team to advance will be firstly decided on the side with the most wins in the competition. If still tied it will go to the points for and against differential. In the unlikely situation that there is still a tie, then it will be decided on the side with most tries in all matches; then the differential of tries for and against in all matches, and finally a coin toss.

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                            • DuluthD Duluth

                              @nzzp said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

                              anyone got a link to the points system,a nd how the finalists will be decided?

                              Finally someone posted all the info. Strangely it was the Blues website:

                              https://blues.rugby/super-rugby-trans-tasman-let-the-anzac-battles-resume/

                              There is a final at the end of the five-week competition. The leading team has the hosting rights against the second placed team of the 10 competing clubs.

                              It might be two Australian teams in the final, or two New Zealand or one of each.

                              Points are as usual – 4 points for a win, 2 points for a draw (there is NO golden point extra time). The bonus points are 1 Point for scoring a minimum three tries more than your opponent; and 1 Point for a loss by seven points or less.

                              If teams are tied on points, the team to advance will be firstly decided on the side with the most wins in the competition. If still tied it will go to the points for and against differential. In the unlikely situation that there is still a tie, then it will be decided on the side with most tries in all matches; then the differential of tries for and against in all matches, and finally a coin toss.

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                              @duluth said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

                              Finally someone posted all the info. Strangely it was the Blues website:

                              https://blues.rugby/super-rugby-trans-tasman-let-the-anzac-battles-resume/

                              Not so strange, considering it was the Blues who missed out on the SRA final based on number of wins, and many of their fans being outraged about it, because they thought it was based on points differential.

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                                @duluth said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

                                Finally someone posted all the info. Strangely it was the Blues website:

                                https://blues.rugby/super-rugby-trans-tasman-let-the-anzac-battles-resume/

                                Not so strange, considering it was the Blues who missed out on the SRA final based on number of wins, and many of their fans being outraged about it, because they thought it was based on points differential.

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                                @stargazer

                                Who was outraged?

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                                • DuluthD Duluth

                                  @stargazer

                                  Who was outraged?

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                                  @duluth As a I said, many Blues fans. I'm not talking about Ferners, by the way. I've seen a huge number of posts on social media. Even the Blues' own accounts were quite salty about it.

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                                    @stargazer

                                    Who was outraged?

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                                    @duluth said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

                                    @stargazer

                                    Who was outraged?

                                    Seemed perfectly fair to me.

                                    Not like it was a boundary countback or something.

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                                    • StargazerS Stargazer

                                      @duluth As a I said, many Blues fans. I'm not talking about Ferners, by the way. I've seen a huge number of posts on social media. Even the Blues' own accounts were quite salty about it.

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                                      @stargazer said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

                                      Even the Blues own accounts were quite salty about it.

                                      You thought this was serious??

                                      https://twitter.com/BluesRugbyTeam/status/1388970577805799424

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                                      • DuluthD Duluth

                                        @stargazer said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

                                        Even the Blues own accounts were quite salty about it.

                                        You thought this was serious??

                                        https://twitter.com/BluesRugbyTeam/status/1388970577805799424

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                                        @duluth No, of course not.

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                                        • DuluthD Duluth

                                          @nzzp said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

                                          anyone got a link to the points system,a nd how the finalists will be decided?

                                          Finally someone posted all the info. Strangely it was the Blues website:

                                          https://blues.rugby/super-rugby-trans-tasman-let-the-anzac-battles-resume/

                                          There is a final at the end of the five-week competition. The leading team has the hosting rights against the second placed team of the 10 competing clubs.

                                          It might be two Australian teams in the final, or two New Zealand or one of each.

                                          Points are as usual – 4 points for a win, 2 points for a draw (there is NO golden point extra time). The bonus points are 1 Point for scoring a minimum three tries more than your opponent; and 1 Point for a loss by seven points or less.

                                          If teams are tied on points, the team to advance will be firstly decided on the side with the most wins in the competition. If still tied it will go to the points for and against differential. In the unlikely situation that there is still a tie, then it will be decided on the side with most tries in all matches; then the differential of tries for and against in all matches, and finally a coin toss.

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                                          #101

                                          @duluth said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

                                          @nzzp said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

                                          anyone got a link to the points system,a nd how the finalists will be decided?

                                          Finally someone posted all the info. Strangely it was the Blues website:

                                          https://blues.rugby/super-rugby-trans-tasman-let-the-anzac-battles-resume/

                                          There is a final at the end of the five-week competition. The leading team has the hosting rights against the second placed team of the 10 competing clubs.

                                          It might be two Australian teams in the final, or two New Zealand or one of each.

                                          Points are as usual – 4 points for a win, 2 points for a draw (there is NO golden point extra time). The bonus points are 1 Point for scoring a minimum three tries more than your opponent; and 1 Point for a loss by seven points or less.

                                          If teams are tied on points, the team to advance will be firstly decided on the side with the most wins in the competition. If still tied it will go to the points for and against differential. In the unlikely situation that there is still a tie, then it will be decided on the side with most tries in all matches; then the differential of tries for and against in all matches, and finally a coin toss.

                                          Boundary countback

                                          Edit: #booboo

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