One domestic NZ competition?
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@dan54 The problem i have here is these leagues are used as development tools for test matches, to create the strongest test teams.
It means the domestic league itself is always 2nd tier. I think league has the balance right (between club and international) they just lack in meaningful international matches/competition.
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@kirwan said in One domestic NZ competition?:
@godder said in One domestic NZ competition?:
If the Crusaders played tests, where would they rank internationally?
I think most of the Super sides in NZ would beat a lot of international teams.
Tenth. They'd beat Japan easily, and be competitive against those just above that
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@muddyriver said in One domestic NZ competition?:
@dan54 The problem i have here is these leagues are used as development tools for test matches, to create the strongest test teams.
It means the domestic league itself is always 2nd tier. I think league has the balance right (between club and international) they just lack in meaningful international matches/competition.
Yeah, it’s this whole top down approach...get some good results for the abs but things get a bit neglected the further you get from the ab
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@muddyriver said in One domestic NZ competition?:
@dan54 The problem i have here is these leagues are used as development tools for test matches, to create the strongest test teams.
It means the domestic league itself is always 2nd tier. I think league has the balance right (between club and international) they just lack in meaningful international matches/competition.
Look I don't watch league, so from my limited knowledge isn't same there? Not for test teams, as they don't really have meaningful ones, but aren't comps below NRL used to develop NRL players? It is a fact all sports use the comp below to develop players in some way to feed the one above, doesn't make either comp less meaningful.
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I'd go for a regular 14 team NPC with all teams receiving equal NZRU funding: eg what they spend now on salaries for five franchises, equally distributed among all 14 teams. Then add a maximum each team can use themselves on players, weighted in some way based on size. This way the larger unions aren't penalised via a socialist structure but the smaller unions by way of NZRU funding also have the ability to sign big names.
This would be played early in the year, with a six team finals series to find the winner. These teams then go into a 16 team SR comp with five Australian, two PI and three Japanese teams, in two pools.
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@machpants said in One domestic NZ competition?:
@kirwan said in One domestic NZ competition?:
@godder said in One domestic NZ competition?:
If the Crusaders played tests, where would they rank internationally?
I think most of the Super sides in NZ would beat a lot of international teams.
Tenth. They'd beat Japan easily, and be competitive against those just above that
When the Blues were a basket case we beat the Lions.
I think most of our teams are better now.
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@kirwan said in One domestic NZ competition?:
@machpants said in One domestic NZ competition?:
@kirwan said in One domestic NZ competition?:
@godder said in One domestic NZ competition?:
If the Crusaders played tests, where would they rank internationally?
I think most of the Super sides in NZ would beat a lot of international teams.
Tenth. They'd beat Japan easily, and be competitive against those just above that
When the Blues were a basket case we beat the Lions.
I think most of our teams are better now.
I think you over estimate the strength of a lions team still meeting each other and jet lagged!
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@machpants said in One domestic NZ competition?:
@kirwan said in One domestic NZ competition?:
@machpants said in One domestic NZ competition?:
@kirwan said in One domestic NZ competition?:
@godder said in One domestic NZ competition?:
If the Crusaders played tests, where would they rank internationally?
I think most of the Super sides in NZ would beat a lot of international teams.
Tenth. They'd beat Japan easily, and be competitive against those just above that
When the Blues were a basket case we beat the Lions.
I think most of our teams are better now.
I think you over estimate the strength of a lions team still meeting each other and jet lagged!
And you aren’t considering how bad the blues were back then
The cream of NH rugby…
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If it's close to test match intensity, would a structure of fewer teams but more weeks off work better? Sounds like more recovery time might be in order for the NZ derby games, so if teams played fortnightly but spread out so every week had games, the player welfare would be better, and Sky would get a nice long season to sell to punters.
