Frizell assaults woman
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That herald article also had a brief summary of the victims version of events (via her mother)
The victim's mother, who spoke on condition of anonymity, said the pair had a mutual friend and were out socialising in the Octagon when the incident played out. She said a conversation arose that Frizell did not like, prompting the slap, "to shut [her] up". When the victim returned to confront the rugby player, the second assault occurred. Frizell later sent abusive messages to a third party on social media.A punch that resulted in dental work? I’m even more surprised by the NZR sanction now. Given the small punishment I was assuming the assault was a push or something else relatively insignificant
@duluth said in All Blacks 2021:
That herald article also had a brief summary of the victims version of events (via her mother)
The victim's mother, who spoke on condition of anonymity, said the pair had a mutual friend and were out socialising in the Octagon when the incident played out. She said a conversation arose that Frizell did not like, prompting the slap, "to shut [her] up". When the victim returned to confront the rugby player, the second assault occurred. Frizell later sent abusive messages to a third party on social media.A punch that resulted in dental work? I’m even more surprised by the NZR sanction now. Given the small punishment I was assuming the assault was a push or something else relatively insignificant
If what the woman's mother is claiming is true, then Frizell should never play for the ABs again.
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@kirwan and one of them an already served highlanders game...im a bit embarrassed
lets not underplay the messages after either
After an All Black allegedly slapped and punched a woman in the face in a Dunedin bar he sent threatening messages to a third party saying "f... you b.... tell your friend to hide"this is supposedly when he had had a chance to cool off
@kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2021:
@kirwan and one of them an already served highlanders game...im a bit embarrassed
lets not underplay the messages after either
After an All Black allegedly slapped and punched a woman in the face in a Dunedin bar he sent threatening messages to a third party saying "f... you b.... tell your friend to hide"this is supposedly when he had had a chance to cool off
Yeah, good point
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@duluth said in All Blacks 2021:
That herald article also had a brief summary of the victims version of events (via her mother)
The victim's mother, who spoke on condition of anonymity, said the pair had a mutual friend and were out socialising in the Octagon when the incident played out. She said a conversation arose that Frizell did not like, prompting the slap, "to shut [her] up". When the victim returned to confront the rugby player, the second assault occurred. Frizell later sent abusive messages to a third party on social media.A punch that resulted in dental work? I’m even more surprised by the NZR sanction now. Given the small punishment I was assuming the assault was a push or something else relatively insignificant
If what the woman's mother is claiming is true, then Frizell should never play for the ABs again.
@akan004 definitely, although I guess it can be tempered with the fact there will be some people out there seeing an AB as a payday (not saying it was exaggerated, but it could be for that reason)
Seems a few too many of these incidents happening.
How stupid are these guys to send anything threatening via thier phones?
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Sounds like two different versions of events based off of what the Highlanders CEO said when Frizell was dropped for the Highlanders game
Clark said the Highlanders had completed their own investigation into the incident and had left the issue with police. He added he would be "surprised" if police laid charges on Frizell. "That is just based on what I know. So it is a personal opinion," he said. -
Wasn't the whole better people make better All Black's (i.e. no dickheads) a policy (maybe instigated by Henry) that was picked up the player leadership group? I'm not absolving Foster and let's face it, Robertson wouldn't do any different, but doesn't this point to the AB leadership group letting the team and public down (if true)?
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What sanction do you get for a punching a player in the face with sufficient force to break a tooth? A year? Not one week ...
@tim said in All Blacks 2021:
What sanction do you get for a punching a player in the face with sufficient force to break a tooth? A year? Not one week ...
depends if its Ardie and if he's wearing his mouthguard
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You would hope there is an independent witness to the incident, rather than relying on each party to give their version of what happened.
NZR won't be able to ignore the bad publicity. Damage control.
@bovidae said in All Blacks 2021:
You would hope there is an independent witness to the incident, rather than relying on each party to give their version of what happened.
NZR won't be able to ignore the bad publicity. Damage control.
Well said. Want to see both sides before judging and punishing.
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You would hope there is an independent witness to the incident, rather than relying on each party to give their version of what happened.
NZR won't be able to ignore the bad publicity. Damage control.
@bovidae said in All Blacks 2021:
You would hope there is an independent witness to the incident, rather than relying on each party to give their version of what happened.
NZR won't be able to ignore the bad publicity. Damage control.
the police charging him leans more towards her side of things in my mind, i would have hoped they had done more than just talk to the two parties
I guess he hasn't actually explained if he has a different recollection of events
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@bovidae said in All Blacks 2021:
You would hope there is an independent witness to the incident, rather than relying on each party to give their version of what happened.
NZR won't be able to ignore the bad publicity. Damage control.
Well said. Want to see both sides before judging and punishing.
@arhs said in Frizell assaults woman:
Want to see both sides before judging and punishing
Frizell has admitted responsibility in his statement the other day
As for the exact details, we won't find out because Frizell has blocked the release
The Otago Daily Times applied to the court for access to the summary of facts but Frizell opposed the release of the documents -
@arhs said in Frizell assaults woman:
Want to see both sides before judging and punishing
Frizell has admitted responsibility in his statement the other day
As for the exact details, we won't find out because Frizell has blocked the release
The Otago Daily Times applied to the court for access to the summary of facts but Frizell opposed the release of the documents@duluth said in Frizell assaults woman:
@arhs said in Frizell assaults woman:
Want to see both sides before judging and punishing
Frizell has admitted responsibility in his statement the other day
As for the exact details, we won't find out because Frizell has blocked the release
The Otago Daily Times applied to the court for access to the summary of facts but Frizell opposed the release of the documentsWe don't know what exactly (which facts) Frizell has admitted responsibility for though.
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@duluth said in Frizell assaults woman:
@arhs said in Frizell assaults woman:
Want to see both sides before judging and punishing
Frizell has admitted responsibility in his statement the other day
As for the exact details, we won't find out because Frizell has blocked the release
The Otago Daily Times applied to the court for access to the summary of facts but Frizell opposed the release of the documentsWe don't know what exactly (which facts) Frizell has admitted responsibility for though.
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@duluth said in Frizell assaults woman:
@arhs said in Frizell assaults woman:
Want to see both sides before judging and punishing
Frizell has admitted responsibility in his statement the other day
As for the exact details, we won't find out because Frizell has blocked the release
The Otago Daily Times applied to the court for access to the summary of facts but Frizell opposed the release of the documentsWe don't know what exactly (which facts) Frizell has admitted responsibility for though.
@stargazer said in Frizell assaults woman:
@duluth said in Frizell assaults woman:
@arhs said in Frizell assaults woman:
Want to see both sides before judging and punishing
Frizell has admitted responsibility in his statement the other day
As for the exact details, we won't find out because Frizell has blocked the release
The Otago Daily Times applied to the court for access to the summary of facts but Frizell opposed the release of the documentsWe don't know what exactly (which facts) Frizell has admitted responsibility for though.
not fighting it suggests to me there is a lot more true in the charges than not
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@arhs said in Frizell assaults woman:
Want to see both sides before judging and punishing
Frizell has admitted responsibility in his statement the other day
As for the exact details, we won't find out because Frizell has blocked the release
The Otago Daily Times applied to the court for access to the summary of facts but Frizell opposed the release of the documents -
@duluth said in Frizell assaults woman:
As for the exact details, we won't find out because Frizell has blocked the release
Classy.
@kiwimurph said in Frizell assaults woman:
@duluth said in Frizell assaults woman:
As for the exact details, we won't find out because Frizell has blocked the release
Classy.
and i often block things that would make me look better....never when its bad
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I'm surprised you can get diversion for slapping, then punching a woman and knocking her teeth out. Followed up with text harrassment.
@kirwan said in Frizell assaults woman:
I'm surprised you can get diversion for slapping, then punching a woman and knocking her teeth out. Followed up with text harrassment.
Agree. I would guess that it is right on the cusp of what is eligible in a first offence.
