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Frizell assaults woman

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  • ARHSA ARHS

    @bovidae said in All Blacks 2021:

    You would hope there is an independent witness to the incident, rather than relying on each party to give their version of what happened.

    NZR won't be able to ignore the bad publicity. Damage control.

    Well said. Want to see both sides before judging and punishing.

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    @arhs said in Frizell assaults woman:

    Want to see both sides before judging and punishing

    Frizell has admitted responsibility in his statement the other day

    As for the exact details, we won't find out because Frizell has blocked the release

    The Otago Daily Times applied to the court for access to the summary of facts but Frizell opposed the release of the documents
    
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    • DuluthD Duluth

      @arhs said in Frizell assaults woman:

      Want to see both sides before judging and punishing

      Frizell has admitted responsibility in his statement the other day

      As for the exact details, we won't find out because Frizell has blocked the release

      The Otago Daily Times applied to the court for access to the summary of facts but Frizell opposed the release of the documents
      
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      @duluth said in Frizell assaults woman:

      @arhs said in Frizell assaults woman:

      Want to see both sides before judging and punishing

      Frizell has admitted responsibility in his statement the other day

      As for the exact details, we won't find out because Frizell has blocked the release

      The Otago Daily Times applied to the court for access to the summary of facts but Frizell opposed the release of the documents
      

      We don't know what exactly (which facts) Frizell has admitted responsibility for though.

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      • StargazerS Stargazer

        @duluth said in Frizell assaults woman:

        @arhs said in Frizell assaults woman:

        Want to see both sides before judging and punishing

        Frizell has admitted responsibility in his statement the other day

        As for the exact details, we won't find out because Frizell has blocked the release

        The Otago Daily Times applied to the court for access to the summary of facts but Frizell opposed the release of the documents
        

        We don't know what exactly (which facts) Frizell has admitted responsibility for though.

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        #122

        @stargazer

        No shit

        He's responsible for 'distress'

        Weasel words

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          Anyway, thanks for splitting this thread off the main thread.

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          • StargazerS Stargazer

            @duluth said in Frizell assaults woman:

            @arhs said in Frizell assaults woman:

            Want to see both sides before judging and punishing

            Frizell has admitted responsibility in his statement the other day

            As for the exact details, we won't find out because Frizell has blocked the release

            The Otago Daily Times applied to the court for access to the summary of facts but Frizell opposed the release of the documents
            

            We don't know what exactly (which facts) Frizell has admitted responsibility for though.

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            @stargazer said in Frizell assaults woman:

            @duluth said in Frizell assaults woman:

            @arhs said in Frizell assaults woman:

            Want to see both sides before judging and punishing

            Frizell has admitted responsibility in his statement the other day

            As for the exact details, we won't find out because Frizell has blocked the release

            The Otago Daily Times applied to the court for access to the summary of facts but Frizell opposed the release of the documents
            

            We don't know what exactly (which facts) Frizell has admitted responsibility for though.

            not fighting it suggests to me there is a lot more true in the charges than not

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            • DuluthD Duluth

              @arhs said in Frizell assaults woman:

              Want to see both sides before judging and punishing

              Frizell has admitted responsibility in his statement the other day

              As for the exact details, we won't find out because Frizell has blocked the release

              The Otago Daily Times applied to the court for access to the summary of facts but Frizell opposed the release of the documents
              
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              @duluth said in Frizell assaults woman:

              As for the exact details, we won't find out because Frizell has blocked the release

              Classy.

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              • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                @duluth said in Frizell assaults woman:

                As for the exact details, we won't find out because Frizell has blocked the release

                Classy.

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                @kiwimurph said in Frizell assaults woman:

                @duluth said in Frizell assaults woman:

                As for the exact details, we won't find out because Frizell has blocked the release

                Classy.

                and i often block things that would make me look better....never when its bad

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                  I'm surprised you can get diversion for slapping, then punching a woman and knocking her teeth out. Followed up with text harrassment.

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                  • KirwanK Kirwan

                    I'm surprised you can get diversion for slapping, then punching a woman and knocking her teeth out. Followed up with text harrassment.

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                    @kirwan said in Frizell assaults woman:

                    I'm surprised you can get diversion for slapping, then punching a woman and knocking her teeth out. Followed up with text harrassment.

                    Agree. I would guess that it is right on the cusp of what is eligible in a first offence.

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                      #129

                      the test on how true her claims are has to be if frizell/NZR sue for libel/slander, i know i wouldn't just leave those kinds of claims hang in the air if they were untrue

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                      • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                        the test on how true her claims are has to be if frizell/NZR sue for libel/slander, i know i wouldn't just leave those kinds of claims hang in the air if they were untrue

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                        @kiwiwomble said in Frizell assaults woman:

                        the test on how true her claims are has to be if frizell/NZR sue for libel/slander, i know i wouldn't just leave those kinds of claims hang in the air if they were untrue

                        Yes they would. They want this buried.

                        Going to make including All Blacks in anti domestic violence campaigns difficult.

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                        • KirwanK Kirwan

                          @kiwiwomble said in Frizell assaults woman:

                          the test on how true her claims are has to be if frizell/NZR sue for libel/slander, i know i wouldn't just leave those kinds of claims hang in the air if they were untrue

                          Yes they would. They want this buried.

                          Going to make including All Blacks in anti domestic violence campaigns difficult.

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                          @kirwan you think, things dont get buried like they use too, someone will always bring it back up, the internet never forgets, look how quickly we check and brought back up the others who have had trouble with the law

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                          • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                            the test on how true her claims are has to be if frizell/NZR sue for libel/slander, i know i wouldn't just leave those kinds of claims hang in the air if they were untrue

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                            @kiwiwomble I don't think so. He/they may just want to focus on the upcoming test matches and not be distracted by legal proceedings.

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                            • StargazerS Stargazer

                              @kiwiwomble I don't think so. He/they may just want to focus on the upcoming test matches and not be distracted by legal proceedings.

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                              @stargazer said in Frizell assaults woman:

                              @kiwiwomble I don't think so. He/they may just want to focus on the upcoming test matches and not be distracted by legal proceedings.

                              He's not getting picked mate.

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                                @stargazer said in Frizell assaults woman:

                                @kiwiwomble I don't think so. He/they may just want to focus on the upcoming test matches and not be distracted by legal proceedings.

                                He's not getting picked mate.

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                                @frank said in Frizell assaults woman:

                                @stargazer said in Frizell assaults woman:

                                @kiwiwomble I don't think so. He/they may just want to focus on the upcoming test matches and not be distracted by legal proceedings.

                                He's not getting picked mate.

                                Only for 1, they'll rotate the squad - he way well be in for Bled 3 for ex. Should be left in NZ until next year after a FUCK load of community work

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                                  @frank said in Frizell assaults woman:

                                  @stargazer said in Frizell assaults woman:

                                  @kiwiwomble I don't think so. He/they may just want to focus on the upcoming test matches and not be distracted by legal proceedings.

                                  He's not getting picked mate.

                                  Only for 1, they'll rotate the squad - he way well be in for Bled 3 for ex. Should be left in NZ until next year after a FUCK load of community work

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                                  @machpants I'd hope that he'd complete the restorative justice program before being eligible to play for New Zealand again.

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                                    This was NZR's prime opportunity to set some standards and make an example of a player who isn't even first choice. Arguably, Ethan Blackadder and Tom Robinson, and certainly Akira and Jacobson, would be better in that position. So they're not even losing much by cutting him for longer. This weak punishment might even cause some players to be a little disenchanted.

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                                    • KirwanK Kirwan

                                      I'm surprised you can get diversion for slapping, then punching a woman and knocking her teeth out. Followed up with text harrassment.

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                                      @kirwan said in Frizell assaults woman:

                                      I'm surprised you can get diversion for slapping, then punching a woman and knocking her teeth out. Followed up with text harrassment.

                                      That is what makes me question things. Not sure how it works in NZ, but knocking someone's teeth out in Qld will earn you a higher charge than assault. Harassment via text is another offence.

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                                      • Crazy HorseC Crazy Horse

                                        @kirwan said in Frizell assaults woman:

                                        I'm surprised you can get diversion for slapping, then punching a woman and knocking her teeth out. Followed up with text harrassment.

                                        That is what makes me question things. Not sure how it works in NZ, but knocking someone's teeth out in Qld will earn you a higher charge than assault. Harassment via text is another offence.

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                                        @crazy-horse said in Frizell assaults woman:

                                        @kirwan said in Frizell assaults woman:

                                        I'm surprised you can get diversion for slapping, then punching a woman and knocking her teeth out. Followed up with text harrassment.

                                        That is what makes me question things. Not sure how it works in NZ, but knocking someone's teeth out in Qld will earn you a higher charge than assault. Harassment via text is another offence.

                                        Well I guess if the facts were more in Frizzel's favour he woudn't have blocked their release.

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                                          Few references above to Fizell's playing ability but I'm not sure why that should matter. Punishment for a great and an average player should be the same imo for this kind of crime.

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