All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug
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@derpus said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:
I thought RM had a blinder going forward and a nightmare in defense. Tough one that.
That sums up Mo'unga's career to date. Seriously good on attack, but gets found wanting on defense. Also has been a bit if a possum in the headlights when the team is on the back foot.
Personally I would have liked to see him used off the bench more early in his career, he carves up against tired defenses and it would allow him to build confidence before being put in the box seat. Playing him at 10 at the RWC was a huge mistake when we had the experience of Beauden and Ben Smith to play 10/15. Such poor coaching, but I digress.
@no-quarter Why are people focusing on RM? He played well! Watch the friggen game again and tell me who in NZ would have played remotely better!
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I'm sure the hot topic of conversation has been the impact of the bench, or lack of it. Not helped by who was actually on the bench. Trying to fit in all the Barretts as well as Mo'unga and DMac was always going to be a big mistake, particularly if JB ends up on the wing again. With injuries the decision on the back reserves were sort of forced on them.
In the forwards, Ta'avao and Tuipulotu are 3rd or 4th choice in their positions. The return of Ofa and S Barrett will help there.
I was disappointed in Ardie in this game. Easily the worst of the starting loose forwards. Whitelock has to take some responsibility for the poor discipline.
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@derpus said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:
I thought RM had a blinder going forward and a nightmare in defense. Tough one that.
That sums up Mo'unga's career to date. Seriously good on attack, but gets found wanting on defense. Also has been a bit if a possum in the headlights when the team is on the back foot.
Personally I would have liked to see him used off the bench more early in his career, he carves up against tired defenses and it would allow him to build confidence before being put in the box seat. Playing him at 10 at the RWC was a huge mistake when we had the experience of Beauden and Ben Smith to play 10/15. Such poor coaching, but I digress.
ESPN has him with no tackles made, 1 tackle missed, and 1 turnover. Given that they choose to hide him, its a recipe for a good coach to exploit.
On the other hand, once he starts running, he’s lethal. But when he doesn’t, he’s not as good as either Dmac or Barret would be as they could defend at 10.
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@rancid-schnitzel said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:
Good post. Fuck me if the Boks haven’t been built up to mythical proportions.
Not playing anyone for a year will do that.
@nta said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:
@rancid-schnitzel said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:
Good post. Fuck me if the Boks haven’t been built up to mythical proportions.
Not playing anyone for a year will do that.
I don’t know. People were fapping on about them even before they pulled the pin last year.
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@booboo said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:
@bones said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:
Still cringe when the stadium only pipes up for the English verse. So odd... shouldn't most of the fans at least be around our age and know the full anthem?
Felt the Maori verse was sung loud and proud as it's ever been.
I'm not here to talk about your feelings.
@bones said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:
@booboo said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:
@bones said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:
Still cringe when the stadium only pipes up for the English verse. So odd... shouldn't most of the fans at least be around our age and know the full anthem?
Felt the Maori verse was sung loud and proud as it's ever been.
I'm not here to talk about your feelings.
My facts don't care for your feelings
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@no-quarter Why are people focusing on RM? He played well! Watch the friggen game again and tell me who in NZ would have played remotely better!
@old-samurai-jack depth issues in the Kiwis? Please satan make it so.
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@no-quarter Why are people focusing on RM? He played well! Watch the friggen game again and tell me who in NZ would have played remotely better!
@old-samurai-jack said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:
@no-quarter Why are people focusing on RM? He played well! Watch the friggen game again and tell me who in NZ would have played remotely better!
Myself, I want him to improve his defence like BB had to at the beginning.
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I'm sure the hot topic of conversation has been the impact of the bench, or lack of it. Not helped by who was actually on the bench. Trying to fit in all the Barretts as well as Mo'unga and DMac was always going to be a big mistake, particularly if JB ends up on the wing again. With injuries the decision on the back reserves were sort of forced on them.
In the forwards, Ta'avao and Tuipulotu are 3rd or 4th choice in their positions. The return of Ofa and S Barrett will help there.
I was disappointed in Ardie in this game. Easily the worst of the starting loose forwards. Whitelock has to take some responsibility for the poor discipline.
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ESPN has him with no tackles made, 1 tackle missed, and 1 turnover. Given that they choose to hide him, its a recipe for a good coach to exploit.
On the other hand, once he starts running, he’s lethal. But when he doesn’t, he’s not as good as either Dmac or Barret would be as they could defend at 10.
@gt12 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:
ESPN has him with no tackles made, 1 tackle missed, and 1 turnover. Given that they choose to hide him, its a recipe for a good coach to exploit.
On the other hand, once he starts running, he’s lethal. But when he doesn’t, he’s not as good as either Dmac or Barret would be as they could defend at 10.
No tackles! Holy shit that tells a story in itself.
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@nta said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:
@rancid-schnitzel said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:
Good post. Fuck me if the Boks haven’t been built up to mythical proportions.
Not playing anyone for a year will do that.
I don’t know. People were fapping on about them even before they pulled the pin last year.
@rancid-schnitzel said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:
@nta said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:
@rancid-schnitzel said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:
Good post. Fuck me if the Boks haven’t been built up to mythical proportions.
Not playing anyone for a year will do that.
I don’t know. People were fapping on about them even before they pulled the pin last year.
Better to talk them up - if you lose, you were right, and if you win, you win.
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Went back and looked at that Mounga missed tackle and it wasn't as bad as being made out. He got caught in two minds whether to go for the ball or tackle and ended up in no man's land and was too late to go for the tackle.
@kiwimurph said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:
Went back and looked at that Mounga missed tackle and it wasn't as bad as being made out. He got caught in two minds whether to go for the ball or tackle and ended up in no man's land and was too late to go for the tackle.
Taylor's missed tackle was far worse.
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@Victor-Meldrew it's almost certainly the lack of confidence in the game plan. We have the talent, and when we hit our straps we are very difficult to contain, but overall we are disjointed. That all comes back to the coaching team.
I almost lost my shit when Jordie went to the wing again. Just so fucking dumb. He either starts at 15 or he's not in the 23, I just don't understand what they are doing with him; his performances on the wing are worse than Bridge and sooooo far below what you'd expect of an AB winger.
@no-quarter said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:
I almost lost my shit when Jordie went to the wing again. Just so fucking dumb. He either starts at 15 or he's not in the 23, I just don't understand what they are doing with him; his performances on the wing are worse than Bridge and sooooo far below what you'd expect of an AB winger.
Yeah, it's just plain stupid. He isn't a Test winger and if he IS in the 23 then have him at 15 - where he is OK - in your game plan or off the bench at 15. Totally illogical and could screw his confidence.
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In fairness to Fozzie, he wasn't left with many options for the 23 jersey.
Ennor hasn't played in 2 months.
Jordan had his hamstring issue.
Bridge is Bridge.
@kiwimurph Even Bridge hasn't played much this year. Played a few games after return from injury and then missed SR TT due to appendicitis. Weird that two ABs got appendicitis so soon after each other, btw.
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That scrum was the turning point for me. It was on Angus Ta’avaos side. Not good enough really. Generally the bench or the side with the bench in it lacked authority.
@kev said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:
That scrum was the turning point for me. It was on Angus Ta’avaos side. Not good enough really.
Did Whitelock swap to the TH side when BBBR went off? I wasn't looking closely but he usually scrums on that side in combo with Barrett. Questions about Tuipulotu's scrummaging persists.
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ESPN has him with no tackles made, 1 tackle missed, and 1 turnover. Given that they choose to hide him, its a recipe for a good coach to exploit.
On the other hand, once he starts running, he’s lethal. But when he doesn’t, he’s not as good as either Dmac or Barret would be as they could defend at 10.
@gt12 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:
ESPN has him with no tackles made, 1 tackle missed, and 1 turnover. Given that they choose to hide him, its a recipe for a good coach to exploit.
On the other hand, once he starts running, he’s lethal. But when he doesn’t, he’s not as good as either Dmac or Barret would be as they could defend at 10.
Those stats don’t seem right because he made that tackle 3 metres out from our line when Oz were hot on attack.
