All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug

Crucial

@gt12 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:

@mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:

@crucial said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:

I remember the amazing chase back, tackle and turnover but that’s about it.

that's the one highlight.

made errors, complete non-entity on attack.

we lack a great fullback.

One kick out on the full, 3 turnovers conceded, and 11 total metres (2nd worst back by metres, I think).

He did apparently beat two defenders and get away one offload, plus that fantastic chase and tackle, but overall he was poor in his contributions.

Thanks for backing up the sentiment. The match thread didn’t seem to be too worried at the time.
As I said I didn’t recall him having a horror so was trying to understand the comment that he played himself out of the team.
To be honest though it wasn’t a game made for him. All of our tries were scored from 15 metres out. Just watched the highlights tape and in Reece’s second DMac drew two defenders to leave Sevu unmarked. In Jordan’s try he was running a second hole in case Jordan’s run didn’t get through and in the build up to another he took us from a static position to a metre out stepping through two defenders.
I agree that the position is still debatable just don’t see him as the worst option.

Tim

Valetini is lucky. Don't rate him.

KiwiMurph

@tim he's still very young (just 22). Showed promise in Super - was up and down vs France.

Bovidae

I'd be looking to expose Kellaway and Banks out wide.

KiwiMurph

Petaia vs Rieko should be a good clash.

Tim

@kiwimurph Didn't realize he was that young. Doesn't look ready for test rugby, and Swinton was better.

Tim

If our frontrow wasn't so average we would do that pack.

Machpants

@tim said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:

https://www.rugby.com.au/news/wallabies-name-side-for-opening-bledisloe-test-202185

WALLABIES SIDE TO FACE ALL BLACKS

James Slipper (103 Tests)

Brandon Paenga-Amosa (12 Tests)

Allan Alaalatoa (46 Tests)

Darcy Swain (3 Tests)

Lukhan Salakaia-Loto (28 Tests)

Rob Valetini (7 Tests)

Michael Hooper (c) (108 Tests)

Harry Wilson (8 Tests)

Tate McDermott (5 Tests)

Noah Lolesio (5 Tests)

Andrew Kellaway (2 Tests)

Hunter Paisami (9 Tests)

Len Ikitau (2 Tests)

Jordan Petaia (8 Tests)

Tom Banks (14 Tests)

Replacements

Jordan Uelese (13 Tests)

Angus Bell (6 Tests)

Taniela Tupou (28 Tests)

Matt Philip (12 Tests)

Fraser McReight (1 Test)

Jake Gordon (8 Tests)

Matt To’omua (57 Tests)

Reece Hodge (46 Tests)

That's a raw team, mostly, especially the backs!

NTA

@tim said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:

If our frontrow wasn't so average we would do that pack.

Our second row is probably not the most powerful IMHO.

Machpants

@tim said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:

If our frontrow wasn't so average we would do that pack.

The ABs backs are a class or two up, IMO. If they all play to potential.

nostrildamus

That must be one of the most bah humbug frontrow ABs and bench props since um ever-ish.
Ardie was great at 7 last game and a so-so 8. There are better options and this is a Bled. I don't have confidence the coaches know who their best players/combos are.
DMac so-so at FB. I prefer JB, thought he was solid and that is his best AB position so far, by far.
I won't mention halfbacks, will just put some old tears for fears on in the background.
I'm expecting some tricks and dirty rough stuff from Rennie's gold and greens and some musty dry powder from our side.
Where are our matchwinners? I'm guessing we'll rely on improv from DH again..

nostrildamus

@machpants said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:

@tim said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:

If our frontrow wasn't so average we would do that pack.

The ABs backs are a class or two up, IMO. If they all play to potential.

In Foster we trust?

Chris

@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:

@machpants said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:

@tim said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:

If our frontrow wasn't so average we would do that pack.

The ABs backs are a class or two up, IMO. If they all play to potential.

In Foster we trust?

Fuck no

Chris

@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:

That must be one of the most bah humbug frontrow ABs and bench props since um ever-ish.
Ardie was great at 7 last game and a so-so 8. There are better options and this is a Bled. I don't have confidence the coaches know who their best players/combos are.
DMac so-so at FB. I prefer JB, thought he was solid and that is his best AB position so far, by far.
I won't mention halfbacks, will just put some old tears for fears on in the background.
I'm expecting some tricks and dirty rough stuff from Rennie's gold and greens and some musty dry powder from our side.
Where are our matchwinners? I'm guessing we'll rely on improv from DH again..

DMAC V Banks maybe we are ahead there,think I would pick D Mac for the Wallabies not sure about picking him for SA though.

Machpants

@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:

@machpants said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:

@tim said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:

If our frontrow wasn't so average we would do that pack.

The ABs backs are a class or two up, IMO. If they all play to potential.

In Foster we trust?

Note the IF

MN5

I’m assuming Nepo Laulala is a pretty fucken amazing scrummager cos he’s even more Owen Franks than Owen Franks was with the ball in hand.

nostrildamus

@machpants said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:

@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:

@machpants said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:

@tim said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:

If our frontrow wasn't so average we would do that pack.

The ABs backs are a class or two up, IMO. If they all play to potential.

In Foster we trust?

Note the IF

i was being a touch facetious..

nostrildamus

@mn5 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:

I’m assuming Nepo Laulala is a pretty fucken amazing scrummager cos he’s even more Owen Franks than Owen Franks was with the ball in hand.

It is karma owed for not selecting his bro Casey often enough at centre?

Dan54

@crucial said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:

@gt12 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:

@mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:

@crucial said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:

I remember the amazing chase back, tackle and turnover but that’s about it.

that's the one highlight.

made errors, complete non-entity on attack.

we lack a great fullback.

One kick out on the full, 3 turnovers conceded, and 11 total metres (2nd worst back by metres, I think).

He did apparently beat two defenders and get away one offload, plus that fantastic chase and tackle, but overall he was poor in his contributions.

Thanks for backing up the sentiment. The match thread didn’t seem to be too worried at the time.
As I said I didn’t recall him having a horror so was trying to understand the comment that he played himself out of the team.
To be honest though it wasn’t a game made for him. All of our tries were scored from 15 metres out. Just watched the highlights tape and in Reece’s second DMac drew two defenders to leave Sevu unmarked. In Jordan’s try he was running a second hole in case Jordan’s run didn’t get through and in the build up to another he took us from a static position to a metre out stepping through two defenders.
I agree that the position is still debatable just don’t see him as the worst option.

I with you Crucial, I didn't recall him being that bad, but if you got it in for a player it easy to just see bad things, and not the good.

MN5

@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:

@mn5 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:

I’m assuming Nepo Laulala is a pretty fucken amazing scrummager cos he’s even more Owen Franks than Owen Franks was with the ball in hand.

It is karma owed for not selecting his bro Casey often enough at centre?

The world is a classroom, and I just found out something today. Never knew they were related.

The Silver Fern

All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug