All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug
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@mn5 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:
@his-bobness said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:
This is a pretty ordinary Wallaby team that managed to make a supposedly Rolls Royce All Black side look exceedingly mediocre.
Plagued by poor discipline and no discernible sign of a game plan (particularly after the subs came on), the home team looked formless, directionless and utterly lacking in confidence.
When you consider Foster took this team from the cream of five NZ super rugby franchises who beat their Australian counterparts in 23 out of 25 games in the trans- Ta$man competition, you can only conclude that the issue is mediocre coaching, or worse.
Foster, like Hilary Clinton, was given the top job simply because it was his ‘turn’. He clearly has no ideas, and judging by what we have seen so far, has failed to win the confidence or trust of the players.
My verdict? Dead man walking.
According to who ? Are you new here ?
That would be the Rolls Royce who made those jet engines.
Drew with far more incisive comments than Sonny IMO, even if he doesn't quite cut the same athletic figure he did just a few short years ago..
NB if Sonny is a keen rugby fan like he says, why did he keep leaving?
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@sparky said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:
Boks will rip us apart if we play like this against them.
Nooooooooo, not those Boks again.
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This is a pretty ordinary Wallaby team that managed to make a supposedly Rolls Royce All Black side look exceedingly mediocre.
Plagued by poor discipline and no discernible sign of a game plan (particularly after the subs came on), the home team looked formless, directionless and utterly lacking in confidence.
When you consider Foster took this team from the cream of five NZ super rugby franchises who beat their Australian counterparts in 23 out of 25 games in the trans- Ta$man competition, you can only conclude that the issue is mediocre coaching, or worse.
Foster, like Hilary Clinton, was given the top job simply because it was his ‘turn’. He clearly has no ideas, and judging by what we have seen so far, has failed to win the confidence or trust of the players.
My verdict? Dead man walking.
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@canes4life said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:
Safe to say we have a lot of work to do despite the win.
Can this current AB setup turn it around, I’m not so sure. Especially not with Foster in charge.
It's also the quality of the Assistants that is the problem. The defence looked good, then it didn't. The forwards looked shit, looked good, then looked shit again. The attack is still miles away.
@gt12 it’s just a mess. It’s hard to know what kind of gameplan the ABs are trying to implement.
I guess we can only improve from here but picking guys in the right position is a must going forward.
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This is a pretty ordinary Wallaby team that managed to make a supposedly Rolls Royce All Black side look exceedingly mediocre.
Plagued by poor discipline and no discernible sign of a game plan (particularly after the subs came on), the home team looked formless, directionless and utterly lacking in confidence.
When you consider Foster took this team from the cream of five NZ super rugby franchises who beat their Australian counterparts in 23 out of 25 games in the trans- Ta$man competition, you can only conclude that the issue is mediocre coaching, or worse.
Foster, like Hilary Clinton, was given the top job simply because it was his ‘turn’. He clearly has no ideas, and judging by what we have seen so far, has failed to win the confidence or trust of the players.
My verdict? Dead man walking.
@his-bobness said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:
When you consider Foster took this team from the cream of five NZ super rugby franchises who beat their Australian counterparts in 23 out of 25 games in the trans- Ta$man competition, you can only conclude that the issue is mediocre coaching, or worse.
That is pretty hard to argue against. Rennie is obviously the better coach, judging purely by his track record (taking over the mediocre Chiefs from Foster and immediately winning back to back SR titles, not to mention dominating with the NZ U20s). I would love for them to switch teams.
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@mn5 I’ve been on this site for 20 years chum. I said ‘supposedly’ because the Wallabies weren’t given a show by either the pundits or the punters. So I have to assume you can neither read nor count.
@his-bobness said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:
@mn5 I’ve been on this site for 20 years chum. I said ‘supposedly’ because the Wallabies weren’t given a show by either the pundits or the punters. So I have to assume you can neither read nor count.
Well no it just means they’re even shitter than the ABs.
I think you need to get up to speed with car manufacturers.
20 years ? I’m not familiar with your work sorry.
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@his-bobness said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:
This is a pretty ordinary Wallaby team that managed to make a supposedly Rolls Royce All Black side look exceedingly mediocre.
This describes Wallaby wins over ABs under Henry and Hansen.
@kiwimurph said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:
@his-bobness said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:
This is a pretty ordinary Wallaby team that managed to make a supposedly Rolls Royce All Black side look exceedingly mediocre.
This describes Wallaby wins over ABs under Henry and Hansen.
Those were all “famous victories” too. Every one of them.
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@chris said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:
@sparky said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:
Postives: Smith still great, Paps awesome, Whitelock a good leader, Havili and AB beginning to gel, Bower better than expected.
And RM
That miss on defence means you can't say he had a good game. That was truely below AB level.
Good goalkicking and a well taken try (and almost set up a pearler) but that was terrible defence.
@kirwan said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:
@chris said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:
@sparky said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:
Postives: Smith still great, Paps awesome, Whitelock a good leader, Havili and AB beginning to gel, Bower better than expected.
And RM
That miss on defence means you can't say he had a good game. That was truely below AB level.
Good goalkicking and a well taken try (and almost set up a pearler) but that was terrible defence.
Better than others,Rettalick missed a few tackles gave away 5 penalties.JB missed a shit load of tackles,D Mac was poor.
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@his-bobness said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:
This is a pretty ordinary Wallaby team that managed to make a supposedly Rolls Royce All Black side look exceedingly mediocre.
Plagued by poor discipline and no discernible sign of a game plan (particularly after the subs came on), the home team looked formless, directionless and utterly lacking in confidence.
When you consider Foster took this team from the cream of five NZ super rugby franchises who beat their Australian counterparts in 23 out of 25 games in the trans- Ta$man competition, you can only conclude that the issue is mediocre coaching, or worse.
Foster, like Hilary Clinton, was given the top job simply because it was his ‘turn’. He clearly has no ideas, and judging by what we have seen so far, has failed to win the confidence or trust of the players.
My verdict? Dead man walking.
According to who ? Are you new here ?
@mn5
@His-Bobness is a Fern legend.You know that guy at the bar who's been around forever who doesn't say much, but every word is gold. That's @His-Bobness.
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@chris said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:
@sparky said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:
Postives: Smith still great, Paps awesome, Whitelock a good leader, Havili and AB beginning to gel, Bower better than expected.
And RM
That miss on defence means you can't say he had a good game. That was truely below AB level.
Good goalkicking and a well taken try (and almost set up a pearler) but that was terrible defence.
@kirwan said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:
@chris said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:
@sparky said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:
Postives: Smith still great, Paps awesome, Whitelock a good leader, Havili and AB beginning to gel, Bower better than expected.
And RM
That miss on defence means you can't say he had a good game. That was truely below AB level.
Good goalkicking and a well taken try (and almost set up a pearler) but that was terrible defence.
That is seriously clutching at straws. One miss and his game is below AB level? FFS
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@kirwan said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:
@chris said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:
@sparky said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:
Postives: Smith still great, Paps awesome, Whitelock a good leader, Havili and AB beginning to gel, Bower better than expected.
And RM
That miss on defence means you can't say he had a good game. That was truely below AB level.
Good goalkicking and a well taken try (and almost set up a pearler) but that was terrible defence.
That is seriously clutching at straws. One miss and his game is below AB level? FFS
@old-samurai-jack said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:
@kirwan said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:
@chris said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:
@sparky said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:
Postives: Smith still great, Paps awesome, Whitelock a good leader, Havili and AB beginning to gel, Bower better than expected.
And RM
That miss on defence means you can't say he had a good game. That was truely below AB level.
Good goalkicking and a well taken try (and almost set up a pearler) but that was terrible defence.
That is seriously clutching at straws. One miss and his game is below AB level? FFS
Yeah totally agree nit picking .
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@kirwan said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:
@chris said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:
@sparky said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:
Postives: Smith still great, Paps awesome, Whitelock a good leader, Havili and AB beginning to gel, Bower better than expected.
And RM
That miss on defence means you can't say he had a good game. That was truely below AB level.
Good goalkicking and a well taken try (and almost set up a pearler) but that was terrible defence.
That is seriously clutching at straws. One miss and his game is below AB level? FFS
@old-samurai-jack said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:
@kirwan said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:
@chris said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:
@sparky said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:
Postives: Smith still great, Paps awesome, Whitelock a good leader, Havili and AB beginning to gel, Bower better than expected.
And RM
That miss on defence means you can't say he had a good game. That was truely below AB level.
Good goalkicking and a well taken try (and almost set up a pearler) but that was terrible defence.
That is seriously clutching at straws. One miss and his game is below AB level? FFS
Agreed. Codie Taylor getting palmed off right after was worse.
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@sparky said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:
@his-bobness said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:
Foster, like Hilary Clinton, was given the top job simply because it was his ‘turn’.
A perfect comparison. No spark or flair or dynamism about either, but the right connections. Foster simply not up to the job.
Foster wasn't a Juris Doctor from Yale, Secretary of State, University Chancellor, or US Senator, was he? I must have missed that bit.
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@tim that would make more sense. Usually have the bigger body crashing it up. But that’s just the little things that tell me Foster clearly isn’t up to it.
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@his-bobness said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:
@mn5 I’ve been on this site for 20 years chum. I said ‘supposedly’ because the Wallabies weren’t given a show by either the pundits or the punters. So I have to assume you can neither read nor count.
Well no it just means they’re even shitter than the ABs.
I think you need to get up to speed with car manufacturers.
20 years ? I’m not familiar with your work sorry.
@mn5 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:
@his-bobness said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:
@mn5 I’ve been on this site for 20 years chum. I said ‘supposedly’ because the Wallabies weren’t given a show by either the pundits or the punters. So I have to assume you can neither read nor count.
Well no it just means they’re even shitter than the ABs.
I think you need to get up to speed with car manufacturers.
20 years ? I’m not familiar with your work sorry.
oh bloody hell, you were serious? HB has written some great posts on here about rugby (and Dylan, of course). Just been quiet a few years.
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I think that starting 15 is maybe 1 or 2 players away from our best 15, but some of our tactics leave alot to be desired.
Our disipline is getting worse, just dumb shit, not even close to 50/50 calls falling our way, just clear infringing.
Players dont look like they fully trust one another or the systems on defence, we had a great 20 mins where we played a bit straighter and simply, then we emptied the bench and let aus back into the game.
@taniwharugby said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:
I think that starting 15 is maybe 1 or 2 players away from our best 15, but some of our tactics leave alot to be desired.
Our disipline is getting worse, just dumb shit, not even close to 50/50 calls falling our way, just clear infringing.
Players dont look like they fully trust one another or the systems on defence, we had a great 20 mins where we played a bit straighter and simply, then we emptied the bench and let aus back into the game.
I worry about on-field leadership.
Not bagging Whitelock as he's good, solid and calm, but we seem to be missing the senior players stepping up and taking charge when things aren't going well. Seems to have been missing for a few years.
