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All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 2 Eden Park 14th Aug

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    Geez - do posters realise it is a 23 player game these days and the All Blacks learned over a decade ago that a lack of a plan B at RWC could have them out. Fern posters have gone on and on about not having plan B's too,

    So, the current coaches are addressing this by training for scenarios where they lose a key player through injury or a card early, and making sure that the players slotting into another position can do so relatively seamlessly. Seems intelligent to me and a big tick for this regime. You can only have 8 on the bench. I have assumed that Jordie is seen as potential cover at 12 this week, else they would have most likely promoted Quinn Tupaea. There will be a planned scenario for the loss of any player.

    The AB's will likely have a pecking order of 4 players minimum for any jersey number, and will do their best to build experience of each of those candidates in that jersey within the RWC leadup campaign. I see nothing wrong with that, and am happy for us not to be winning by 50 points with out best 15 playing 80 minutes every week, if we are progressing forward our troops for the RWC battle. Then, they will pick the best 23 players to deal with whatever the opposition are expected to throw at them that week, and will continue their admirable philosophy (big tick for current regime) of not picking players who are injured, but seeing it as an opportunity to further develop an understudy in preparation for what may come.

    All these posts wanting Foster to be dumped for not keeping players in their preferred jersey number at all times would seem to based on nasty agendas and not on reason....

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    @arhs said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 2 Eden Park 14th Aug:

    Geez - do posters realise it is a 23 player game these days and the All Blacks learned over a decade ago that a lack of a plan B at RWC could have them out. Fern posters have gone on and on about not having plan B's too,

    So, the current coaches are addressing this by training for scenarios where they lose a key player through injury or a card early, and making sure that the players slotting into another position can do so relatively seamlessly. Seems intelligent to me and a big tick for this regime. You can only have 8 on the bench. I have assumed that Jordie is seen as potential cover at 12 this week, else they would have most likely promoted Quinn Tupaea. There will be a planned scenario for the loss of any player.

    The AB's will likely have a pecking order of 4 players minimum for any jersey number, and will do their best to build experience of each of those candidates in that jersey within the RWC leadup campaign. I see nothing wrong with that, and am happy for us not to be winning by 50 points with out best 15 playing 80 minutes every week, if we are progressing forward our troops for the RWC battle. Then, they will pick the best 23 players to deal with whatever the opposition are expected to throw at them that week, and will continue their admirable philosophy (big tick for current regime) of not picking players who are injured, but seeing it as an opportunity to further develop an understudy in preparation for what may come.

    All these posts wanting Foster to be dumped for not keeping players in their preferred jersey number at all times would seem to based on nasty agendas and not on reason....

    Except they're not doing this. They're picking Jordie Barrett because he deserves to be picked as a fullback on form, but then they also have to pick Beauden, McKenzie and Mo'unga, and Jordan. So then they're playing him on the wing because he 'deserves' a spot. The bench balance is fucked with 2 Barretts there.
    The boks with 6 forwards on the bench in the WC were seeing it as a 23 man game, our dullards are not.

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      Sadly no accompanying Mad Jack McMad 1 hour sore loser video included

      https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/bledisloe-cup-rugby-wallabies-ask-referees-to-keep-an-eye-on-all-blacks-lineout/5KIRJZEJ37XZV7STDQ4LWGW4MA/

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      • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

        @snowy said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 2 Eden Park 14th Aug:

        @act-crusader said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 2 Eden Park 14th Aug:

        Unfortunately you won’t get the Aussie TV audience at 12:30 pm on a Saturday afternoon.

        Do we get them live anyway? And at 5:30?

        Yeah, at least that is pub o’clock for most Aussies.

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        @act-crusader said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 2 Eden Park 14th Aug:

        @snowy said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 2 Eden Park 14th Aug:

        @act-crusader said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 2 Eden Park 14th Aug:

        Unfortunately you won’t get the Aussie TV audience at 12:30 pm on a Saturday afternoon.

        Do we get them live anyway? And at 5:30?

        Yeah, at least that is pub o’clock for most Aussies.

        Now rugby is on Stan you would be hard pressed to find a pub showing it.

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          Stand by for pathetic Ozzie niggle, as long as we ignore it, they'll get smashed

          https://www.planetrugby.com/wallabies-keen-to-match-all-blacks-physicality-in-bledisloe-cup-test/

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          • Crazy HorseC Crazy Horse

            @act-crusader said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 2 Eden Park 14th Aug:

            @snowy said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 2 Eden Park 14th Aug:

            @act-crusader said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 2 Eden Park 14th Aug:

            Unfortunately you won’t get the Aussie TV audience at 12:30 pm on a Saturday afternoon.

            Do we get them live anyway? And at 5:30?

            Yeah, at least that is pub o’clock for most Aussies.

            Now rugby is on Stan you would be hard pressed to find a pub showing it.

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            @crazy-horse said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 2 Eden Park 14th Aug:

            @act-crusader said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 2 Eden Park 14th Aug:

            @snowy said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 2 Eden Park 14th Aug:

            @act-crusader said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 2 Eden Park 14th Aug:

            Unfortunately you won’t get the Aussie TV audience at 12:30 pm on a Saturday afternoon.

            Do we get them live anyway? And at 5:30?

            Yeah, at least that is pub o’clock for most Aussies.

            Now rugby is on Stan you would be hard pressed to find a pub showing it.

            Shouldn't that not matter as it has to be carried on FTA? Or do you reckon most pubs are locked into those deals for satellite tv (the one that the racing guy, also head of NRL, totally had nothing whatsoever to do with Stan being blocked from).

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            • Crazy HorseC Crazy Horse

              @act-crusader said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 2 Eden Park 14th Aug:

              @snowy said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 2 Eden Park 14th Aug:

              @act-crusader said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 2 Eden Park 14th Aug:

              Unfortunately you won’t get the Aussie TV audience at 12:30 pm on a Saturday afternoon.

              Do we get them live anyway? And at 5:30?

              Yeah, at least that is pub o’clock for most Aussies.

              Now rugby is on Stan you would be hard pressed to find a pub showing it.

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              @crazy-horse Stan has no pub/club deal available yet AFAIK. So yeah, technically a pub streaming it is breaching the user agreement.

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                @crazy-horse Stan has no pub/club deal available yet AFAIK. So yeah, technically a pub streaming it is breaching the user agreement.

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                @derpus said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 2 Eden Park 14th Aug:

                @crazy-horse Stan has no pub/club deal available yet AFAIK. So yeah, technically a pub streaming it is breaching the user agreement.

                So pubs can't play free to air TV channels?

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                • NepiaN Nepia

                  @derpus said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 2 Eden Park 14th Aug:

                  @crazy-horse Stan has no pub/club deal available yet AFAIK. So yeah, technically a pub streaming it is breaching the user agreement.

                  So pubs can't play free to air TV channels?

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                  @nepia said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 2 Eden Park 14th Aug:

                  @derpus said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 2 Eden Park 14th Aug:

                  @crazy-horse Stan has no pub/club deal available yet AFAIK. So yeah, technically a pub streaming it is breaching the user agreement.

                  So pubs can't play free to air TV channels?

                  They can. The ads are a bad look IMHO.

                  The sooner they sort that out, the better. Good thing in Sydney we'll be locked down until the Spring Tours 😉

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                  • NepiaN Nepia

                    @derpus said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 2 Eden Park 14th Aug:

                    @crazy-horse Stan has no pub/club deal available yet AFAIK. So yeah, technically a pub streaming it is breaching the user agreement.

                    So pubs can't play free to air TV channels?

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                    @nepia said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 2 Eden Park 14th Aug:

                    @derpus said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 2 Eden Park 14th Aug:

                    @crazy-horse Stan has no pub/club deal available yet AFAIK. So yeah, technically a pub streaming it is breaching the user agreement.

                    So pubs can't play free to air TV channels?

                    I forgot about free to air! I really ought to reacquaint myself with the people in the cheap seats.

                    But, I haven't seen rugby on at a pub since it went to Stan, free to air or not.

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                    • Crazy HorseC Crazy Horse

                      @nepia said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 2 Eden Park 14th Aug:

                      @derpus said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 2 Eden Park 14th Aug:

                      @crazy-horse Stan has no pub/club deal available yet AFAIK. So yeah, technically a pub streaming it is breaching the user agreement.

                      So pubs can't play free to air TV channels?

                      I forgot about free to air! I really ought to reacquaint myself with the people in the cheap seats.

                      But, I haven't seen rugby on at a pub since it went to Stan, free to air or not.

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                      @crazy-horse said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 2 Eden Park 14th Aug:

                      @nepia said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 2 Eden Park 14th Aug:

                      @derpus said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 2 Eden Park 14th Aug:

                      @crazy-horse Stan has no pub/club deal available yet AFAIK. So yeah, technically a pub streaming it is breaching the user agreement.

                      So pubs can't play free to air TV channels?

                      I forgot about free to air! I really ought to reacquaint myself with the people in the cheap seats.

                      But, I haven't seen rugby on at a pub since it went to Stan, free to air or not.

                      I hate watching rugby at the pub, I like sitting my fat ass down right infront of my big tv and not have anyone jibber jabbing around me. I'm antisocial as fuck when watching rugby.

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                      • NepiaN Nepia

                        @crazy-horse said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 2 Eden Park 14th Aug:

                        @nepia said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 2 Eden Park 14th Aug:

                        @derpus said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 2 Eden Park 14th Aug:

                        @crazy-horse Stan has no pub/club deal available yet AFAIK. So yeah, technically a pub streaming it is breaching the user agreement.

                        So pubs can't play free to air TV channels?

                        I forgot about free to air! I really ought to reacquaint myself with the people in the cheap seats.

                        But, I haven't seen rugby on at a pub since it went to Stan, free to air or not.

                        I hate watching rugby at the pub, I like sitting my fat ass down right infront of my big tv and not have anyone jibber jabbing around me. I'm antisocial as fuck when watching rugby.

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                        @nepia said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 2 Eden Park 14th Aug:

                        @crazy-horse said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 2 Eden Park 14th Aug:

                        @nepia said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 2 Eden Park 14th Aug:

                        @derpus said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 2 Eden Park 14th Aug:

                        @crazy-horse Stan has no pub/club deal available yet AFAIK. So yeah, technically a pub streaming it is breaching the user agreement.

                        So pubs can't play free to air TV channels?

                        I forgot about free to air! I really ought to reacquaint myself with the people in the cheap seats.

                        But, I haven't seen rugby on at a pub since it went to Stan, free to air or not.

                        I hate watching rugby at the pub, I like sitting my fat ass down right infront of my big tv and not have anyone jibber jabbing around me. I'm antisocial as fuck when watching rugby.

                        Same. Other people just annoy me. But when I am away I don't really have a choice.

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                        • D Derpus

                          @crazy-horse Stan has no pub/club deal available yet AFAIK. So yeah, technically a pub streaming it is breaching the user agreement.

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                          @derpus said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 2 Eden Park 14th Aug:

                          @crazy-horse Stan has no pub/club deal available yet AFAIK. So yeah, technically a pub streaming it is breaching the user agreement.

                          Rugby is missing out on the casual fan. They need to sort it out.

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                            so who is out injured not available
                            joe moody
                            dane coles
                            ofa tuungafasi
                            sam cane
                            jack goodhue
                            ALB
                            caleb clarke

                            anyone else

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                              Stand by for pathetic Ozzie niggle, as long as we ignore it, they'll get smashed

                              https://www.planetrugby.com/wallabies-keen-to-match-all-blacks-physicality-in-bledisloe-cup-test/

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                              @machpants said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 2 Eden Park 14th Aug:

                              Stand by for pathetic Ozzie niggle, as long as we ignore it, they'll get smashed

                              https://www.planetrugby.com/wallabies-keen-to-match-all-blacks-physicality-in-bledisloe-cup-test/

                              What are the odds on Swinton getting red?

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                                so who is out injured not available
                                joe moody
                                dane coles
                                ofa tuungafasi
                                sam cane
                                jack goodhue
                                ALB
                                caleb clarke

                                anyone else

                                boobooB Do not disturb
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                                @ploughboy said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 2 Eden Park 14th Aug:

                                so who is out injured not available
                                joe moody
                                dane coles
                                ofa tuungafasi
                                sam cane
                                jack goodhue
                                ALB
                                caleb clarke

                                anyone else

                                That's half a starting XV

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                                • NepiaN Nepia

                                  @crazy-horse said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 2 Eden Park 14th Aug:

                                  @nepia said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 2 Eden Park 14th Aug:

                                  @derpus said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 2 Eden Park 14th Aug:

                                  @crazy-horse Stan has no pub/club deal available yet AFAIK. So yeah, technically a pub streaming it is breaching the user agreement.

                                  So pubs can't play free to air TV channels?

                                  I forgot about free to air! I really ought to reacquaint myself with the people in the cheap seats.

                                  But, I haven't seen rugby on at a pub since it went to Stan, free to air or not.

                                  I hate watching rugby at the pub, I like sitting my fat ass down right infront of my big tv and not have anyone jibber jabbing around me. I'm antisocial as fuck when watching rugby.

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                                  @nepia said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 2 Eden Park 14th Aug:

                                  @crazy-horse said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 2 Eden Park 14th Aug:

                                  @nepia said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 2 Eden Park 14th Aug:

                                  @derpus said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 2 Eden Park 14th Aug:

                                  @crazy-horse Stan has no pub/club deal available yet AFAIK. So yeah, technically a pub streaming it is breaching the user agreement.

                                  So pubs can't play free to air TV channels?

                                  I forgot about free to air! I really ought to reacquaint myself with the people in the cheap seats.

                                  But, I haven't seen rugby on at a pub since it went to Stan, free to air or not.

                                  I hate watching rugby at the pub, I like sitting my fat ass down right infront of my big tv and not have anyone jibber jabbing around me. I'm antisocial as fuck when watching rugby.

                                  That’s why we all spend time on the fern to be fair

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                                    so who is out injured not available
                                    joe moody
                                    dane coles
                                    ofa tuungafasi
                                    sam cane
                                    jack goodhue
                                    ALB
                                    caleb clarke

                                    anyone else

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                                    @ploughboy said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 2 Eden Park 14th Aug:

                                    so who is out injured not available
                                    joe moody
                                    dane coles
                                    ofa tuungafasi
                                    sam cane
                                    jack goodhue
                                    ALB
                                    caleb clarke

                                    anyone else

                                    Ennor. Although he was 99% certain of not being in the frame regardless.

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                                      @machpants said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 2 Eden Park 14th Aug:

                                      Stand by for pathetic Ozzie niggle, as long as we ignore it, they'll get smashed

                                      https://www.planetrugby.com/wallabies-keen-to-match-all-blacks-physicality-in-bledisloe-cup-test/

                                      What are the odds on Swinton getting red?

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                                      @booboo said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 2 Eden Park 14th Aug:

                                      @machpants said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 2 Eden Park 14th Aug:

                                      Stand by for pathetic Ozzie niggle, as long as we ignore it, they'll get smashed

                                      https://www.planetrugby.com/wallabies-keen-to-match-all-blacks-physicality-in-bledisloe-cup-test/

                                      What are the odds on Swinton getting red?

                                      Very very high

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                                      • Crazy HorseC Crazy Horse

                                        @nepia said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 2 Eden Park 14th Aug:

                                        @derpus said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 2 Eden Park 14th Aug:

                                        @crazy-horse Stan has no pub/club deal available yet AFAIK. So yeah, technically a pub streaming it is breaching the user agreement.

                                        So pubs can't play free to air TV channels?

                                        I forgot about free to air! I really ought to reacquaint myself with the people in the cheap seats.

                                        But, I haven't seen rugby on at a pub since it went to Stan, free to air or not.

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                                        @crazy-horse said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 2 Eden Park 14th Aug:

                                        @nepia said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 2 Eden Park 14th Aug:

                                        @derpus said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 2 Eden Park 14th Aug:

                                        @crazy-horse Stan has no pub/club deal available yet AFAIK. So yeah, technically a pub streaming it is breaching the user agreement.

                                        So pubs can't play free to air TV channels?

                                        I forgot about free to air! I really ought to reacquaint myself with the people in the cheap seats.

                                        But, I haven't seen rugby on at a pub since it went to Stan, free to air or not.

                                        Pubs show free to air but tend to only do it on request and generally not on the big main screen if there is other sport on.

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                                          @ploughboy said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 2 Eden Park 14th Aug:

                                          so who is out injured not available
                                          joe moody
                                          dane coles
                                          ofa tuungafasi
                                          sam cane
                                          jack goodhue
                                          ALB
                                          caleb clarke

                                          anyone else

                                          That's half a starting XV

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                                          @booboo may be the starting front row (though I like Coles as the finisher atm) and the best midfield.

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