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Foster, Robertson, Rennie etc

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  • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

    @machpants said in Foster, Robertson, Other Options etc:

    @kiwiwomble said in Foster, Robertson, Other Options etc:

    @nostrildamus said in Foster, Robertson, Other Options etc:

    @kiwiwomble said in Foster, Robertson, Other Options etc:

    @canefan thats what i was getting at but the sarcasm seems to have been too subtle

    On the Fern? Too subtle? As if that ever happened!

    no, i seriously think i was too subtle.......

    We got it, we just wondered how far you would go. I was going to suggest that Whitelock was next...

    We should let him think we didn't get it. If being too subtle on TSF (the place where tired memes come to die) is a mark of sophisticated cunning, best let him enjoy that sense of achievement.

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    @nostrildamus said in Foster, Robertson, Other Options etc:

    @machpants said in Foster, Robertson, Other Options etc:

    @kiwiwomble said in Foster, Robertson, Other Options etc:

    @nostrildamus said in Foster, Robertson, Other Options etc:

    @kiwiwomble said in Foster, Robertson, Other Options etc:

    @canefan thats what i was getting at but the sarcasm seems to have been too subtle

    On the Fern? Too subtle? As if that ever happened!

    no, i seriously think i was too subtle.......

    We got it, we just wondered how far you would go. I was going to suggest that Whitelock was next...

    We should let him think we didn't get it. If being too subtle on TSF (the place where tired memes come to die) is a mark of sophisticated cunning, best let him enjoy that sense of achievement.

    Now I feel like I've slapped a little baby panda.

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      @nostrildamus said in Foster, Robertson, Other Options etc:

      @machpants said in Foster, Robertson, Other Options etc:

      @kiwiwomble said in Foster, Robertson, Other Options etc:

      @nostrildamus said in Foster, Robertson, Other Options etc:

      @kiwiwomble said in Foster, Robertson, Other Options etc:

      @canefan thats what i was getting at but the sarcasm seems to have been too subtle

      On the Fern? Too subtle? As if that ever happened!

      no, i seriously think i was too subtle.......

      We got it, we just wondered how far you would go. I was going to suggest that Whitelock was next...

      We should let him think we didn't get it. If being too subtle on TSF (the place where tired memes come to die) is a mark of sophisticated cunning, best let him enjoy that sense of achievement.

      Now I feel like I've slapped a little baby panda.

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      nostrildamus
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      @machpants said in Foster, Robertson, Other Options etc:

      @nostrildamus said in Foster, Robertson, Other Options etc:

      @machpants said in Foster, Robertson, Other Options etc:

      @kiwiwomble said in Foster, Robertson, Other Options etc:

      @nostrildamus said in Foster, Robertson, Other Options etc:

      @kiwiwomble said in Foster, Robertson, Other Options etc:

      @canefan thats what i was getting at but the sarcasm seems to have been too subtle

      On the Fern? Too subtle? As if that ever happened!

      no, i seriously think i was too subtle.......

      We got it, we just wondered how far you would go. I was going to suggest that Whitelock was next...

      We should let him think we didn't get it. If being too subtle on TSF (the place where tired memes come to die) is a mark of sophisticated cunning, best let him enjoy that sense of achievement.

      Now I feel like I've slapped a little baby panda.

      Don't feel sorry for me, we have the biggest enclosures and the best international matchmakers.

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      • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

        To be fair, from our 2nd try right up until the intercept i thought we would win on Sunday.

        The week before we were a couple of degrees on a forward pass from winning.

        Our loss to SA was a very late penalty (so was our win to be fair)

        so for all our wailing and gnashing of teeth, and issues we can all see, a couple of better moments from players and we are unbeaten all year.

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        @mariner4life said in Foster, Robertson, Other Options etc:

        To be fair, from our 2nd try right up until the intercept i thought we would win on Sunday.

        The week before we were a couple of degrees on a forward pass from winning.

        Our loss to SA was a very late penalty (so was our win to be fair)

        so for all our wailing and gnashing of teeth, and issues we can all see, a couple of better moments from players and we are unbeaten all year.

        Isn't that the source of the frustration, though? That despite being soundly beaten in pure rugby terms, we were still close on the scoreboard. Which makes one think how good we could be if we were well-coached and selected.

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        • juniorJ junior

          @mariner4life said in Foster, Robertson, Other Options etc:

          To be fair, from our 2nd try right up until the intercept i thought we would win on Sunday.

          The week before we were a couple of degrees on a forward pass from winning.

          Our loss to SA was a very late penalty (so was our win to be fair)

          so for all our wailing and gnashing of teeth, and issues we can all see, a couple of better moments from players and we are unbeaten all year.

          Isn't that the source of the frustration, though? That despite being soundly beaten in pure rugby terms, we were still close on the scoreboard. Which makes one think how good we could be if we were well-coached and selected.

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          @junior said in Foster, Robertson, Other Options etc:

          @mariner4life said in Foster, Robertson, Other Options etc:

          To be fair, from our 2nd try right up until the intercept i thought we would win on Sunday.

          The week before we were a couple of degrees on a forward pass from winning.

          Our loss to SA was a very late penalty (so was our win to be fair)

          so for all our wailing and gnashing of teeth, and issues we can all see, a couple of better moments from players and we are unbeaten all year.

          Isn't that the source of the frustration, though? That despite being soundly beaten in pure rugby terms, we were still close on the scoreboard. Which makes one think how good we could be if we were well-coached and selected.

          Maybe.
          For me it is seeing the same mistakes again and again being more and more mercilessly exploited by the other teams' coaching staff while Foster says his team is progressing and is still inexperienced (but often older than other teams).

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            My prediction: Foster will stay. Mooar and McLeod will carry the can.

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              @canefan said in Foster, Robertson, Other Options etc:

              @mariner4life said in Foster, Robertson, Other Options etc:

              @kiwiwomble said in Foster, Robertson, Other Options etc:

              @mariner4life said in Foster, Robertson, Other Options etc:

              @kiwiwomble said in Foster, Robertson, Other Options etc:

              I hope you're right though and we're close to "clicking"

              i didn't say that, at all

              sorry, must have misunderstood, i asked if we'd pinched a few wins would that be enough for fozzie to be considered to be doing a good job and you said yes, i took that as being only close to being acceptable

              Winning lots is his only remit. The only metric that counts. The manner of those wins counts to fans and fuck all else.

              So yeah, if we burgled those wins i would say he did pretty well

              I never said we were close to clicking though. Beating Ireland that day would have been a robbery.

              It is better this way. If we had burgled wins vs Ireland or France it would have given the NZRFU and the AB coaches priceless breathing room. And a chance to paper over our flaws

              This sort of thing gets said a lot but unless you are close to the action I don’t think we really know what gets “papered over” or “emphasised”.

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              • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                @canefan said in Foster, Robertson, Other Options etc:

                @mariner4life said in Foster, Robertson, Other Options etc:

                @kiwiwomble said in Foster, Robertson, Other Options etc:

                @mariner4life said in Foster, Robertson, Other Options etc:

                @kiwiwomble said in Foster, Robertson, Other Options etc:

                I hope you're right though and we're close to "clicking"

                i didn't say that, at all

                sorry, must have misunderstood, i asked if we'd pinched a few wins would that be enough for fozzie to be considered to be doing a good job and you said yes, i took that as being only close to being acceptable

                Winning lots is his only remit. The only metric that counts. The manner of those wins counts to fans and fuck all else.

                So yeah, if we burgled those wins i would say he did pretty well

                I never said we were close to clicking though. Beating Ireland that day would have been a robbery.

                It is better this way. If we had burgled wins vs Ireland or France it would have given the NZRFU and the AB coaches priceless breathing room. And a chance to paper over our flaws

                This sort of thing gets said a lot but unless you are close to the action I don’t think we really know what gets “papered over” or “emphasised”.

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                @act-crusader said in Foster, Robertson, Other Options etc:

                @canefan said in Foster, Robertson, Other Options etc:

                @mariner4life said in Foster, Robertson, Other Options etc:

                @kiwiwomble said in Foster, Robertson, Other Options etc:

                @mariner4life said in Foster, Robertson, Other Options etc:

                @kiwiwomble said in Foster, Robertson, Other Options etc:

                I hope you're right though and we're close to "clicking"

                i didn't say that, at all

                sorry, must have misunderstood, i asked if we'd pinched a few wins would that be enough for fozzie to be considered to be doing a good job and you said yes, i took that as being only close to being acceptable

                Winning lots is his only remit. The only metric that counts. The manner of those wins counts to fans and fuck all else.

                So yeah, if we burgled those wins i would say he did pretty well

                I never said we were close to clicking though. Beating Ireland that day would have been a robbery.

                It is better this way. If we had burgled wins vs Ireland or France it would have given the NZRFU and the AB coaches priceless breathing room. And a chance to paper over our flaws

                This sort of thing gets said a lot but unless you are close to the action I don’t think we really know what gets “papered over” or “emphasised”.

                That never stopped us making inferences before! This is the fern for God's sake....

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                • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                  @canefan said in Foster, Robertson, Other Options etc:

                  @mariner4life said in Foster, Robertson, Other Options etc:

                  @kiwiwomble said in Foster, Robertson, Other Options etc:

                  @mariner4life said in Foster, Robertson, Other Options etc:

                  @kiwiwomble said in Foster, Robertson, Other Options etc:

                  I hope you're right though and we're close to "clicking"

                  i didn't say that, at all

                  sorry, must have misunderstood, i asked if we'd pinched a few wins would that be enough for fozzie to be considered to be doing a good job and you said yes, i took that as being only close to being acceptable

                  Winning lots is his only remit. The only metric that counts. The manner of those wins counts to fans and fuck all else.

                  So yeah, if we burgled those wins i would say he did pretty well

                  I never said we were close to clicking though. Beating Ireland that day would have been a robbery.

                  It is better this way. If we had burgled wins vs Ireland or France it would have given the NZRFU and the AB coaches priceless breathing room. And a chance to paper over our flaws

                  This sort of thing gets said a lot but unless you are close to the action I don’t think we really know what gets “papered over” or “emphasised”.

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                  @act-crusader said in Foster, Robertson, Other Options etc:

                  @canefan said in Foster, Robertson, Other Options etc:

                  @mariner4life said in Foster, Robertson, Other Options etc:

                  @kiwiwomble said in Foster, Robertson, Other Options etc:

                  @mariner4life said in Foster, Robertson, Other Options etc:

                  @kiwiwomble said in Foster, Robertson, Other Options etc:

                  I hope you're right though and we're close to "clicking"

                  i didn't say that, at all

                  sorry, must have misunderstood, i asked if we'd pinched a few wins would that be enough for fozzie to be considered to be doing a good job and you said yes, i took that as being only close to being acceptable

                  Winning lots is his only remit. The only metric that counts. The manner of those wins counts to fans and fuck all else.

                  So yeah, if we burgled those wins i would say he did pretty well

                  I never said we were close to clicking though. Beating Ireland that day would have been a robbery.

                  It is better this way. If we had burgled wins vs Ireland or France it would have given the NZRFU and the AB coaches priceless breathing room. And a chance to paper over our flaws

                  This sort of thing gets said a lot but unless you are close to the action I don’t think we really know what gets “papered over” or “emphasised”.

                  I do. In your AB team selections there is always one element emphasized!

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                  • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                    @canefan said in Foster, Robertson, Other Options etc:

                    @mariner4life said in Foster, Robertson, Other Options etc:

                    @kiwiwomble said in Foster, Robertson, Other Options etc:

                    @mariner4life said in Foster, Robertson, Other Options etc:

                    @kiwiwomble said in Foster, Robertson, Other Options etc:

                    I hope you're right though and we're close to "clicking"

                    i didn't say that, at all

                    sorry, must have misunderstood, i asked if we'd pinched a few wins would that be enough for fozzie to be considered to be doing a good job and you said yes, i took that as being only close to being acceptable

                    Winning lots is his only remit. The only metric that counts. The manner of those wins counts to fans and fuck all else.

                    So yeah, if we burgled those wins i would say he did pretty well

                    I never said we were close to clicking though. Beating Ireland that day would have been a robbery.

                    It is better this way. If we had burgled wins vs Ireland or France it would have given the NZRFU and the AB coaches priceless breathing room. And a chance to paper over our flaws

                    This sort of thing gets said a lot but unless you are close to the action I don’t think we really know what gets “papered over” or “emphasised”.

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                    @act-crusader said in Foster, Robertson, Other Options etc:

                    @canefan said in Foster, Robertson, Other Options etc:

                    @mariner4life said in Foster, Robertson, Other Options etc:

                    @kiwiwomble said in Foster, Robertson, Other Options etc:

                    @mariner4life said in Foster, Robertson, Other Options etc:

                    @kiwiwomble said in Foster, Robertson, Other Options etc:

                    I hope you're right though and we're close to "clicking"

                    i didn't say that, at all

                    sorry, must have misunderstood, i asked if we'd pinched a few wins would that be enough for fozzie to be considered to be doing a good job and you said yes, i took that as being only close to being acceptable

                    Winning lots is his only remit. The only metric that counts. The manner of those wins counts to fans and fuck all else.

                    So yeah, if we burgled those wins i would say he did pretty well

                    I never said we were close to clicking though. Beating Ireland that day would have been a robbery.

                    It is better this way. If we had burgled wins vs Ireland or France it would have given the NZRFU and the AB coaches priceless breathing room. And a chance to paper over our flaws

                    This sort of thing gets said a lot but unless you are close to the action I don’t think we really know what gets “papered over” or “emphasised”.

                    I don't think that's what he meant. Papered over to the public is more to the point. Which is a very fair point, and I agree that it's better for us to lose and show our weaknesses, than win through some individual magic and have the top brass singing Foster's praises.

                    Although losing hasn't stopped them doing so either, so it seems.

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                    • D delicatessen

                      @act-crusader said in Foster, Robertson, Other Options etc:

                      @canefan said in Foster, Robertson, Other Options etc:

                      @mariner4life said in Foster, Robertson, Other Options etc:

                      @kiwiwomble said in Foster, Robertson, Other Options etc:

                      @mariner4life said in Foster, Robertson, Other Options etc:

                      @kiwiwomble said in Foster, Robertson, Other Options etc:

                      I hope you're right though and we're close to "clicking"

                      i didn't say that, at all

                      sorry, must have misunderstood, i asked if we'd pinched a few wins would that be enough for fozzie to be considered to be doing a good job and you said yes, i took that as being only close to being acceptable

                      Winning lots is his only remit. The only metric that counts. The manner of those wins counts to fans and fuck all else.

                      So yeah, if we burgled those wins i would say he did pretty well

                      I never said we were close to clicking though. Beating Ireland that day would have been a robbery.

                      It is better this way. If we had burgled wins vs Ireland or France it would have given the NZRFU and the AB coaches priceless breathing room. And a chance to paper over our flaws

                      This sort of thing gets said a lot but unless you are close to the action I don’t think we really know what gets “papered over” or “emphasised”.

                      I don't think that's what he meant. Papered over to the public is more to the point. Which is a very fair point, and I agree that it's better for us to lose and show our weaknesses, than win through some individual magic and have the top brass singing Foster's praises.

                      Although losing hasn't stopped them doing so either, so it seems.

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                      @delicatessen said in Foster, Robertson, Other Options etc:

                      @act-crusader said in Foster, Robertson, Other Options etc:

                      @canefan said in Foster, Robertson, Other Options etc:

                      @mariner4life said in Foster, Robertson, Other Options etc:

                      @kiwiwomble said in Foster, Robertson, Other Options etc:

                      @mariner4life said in Foster, Robertson, Other Options etc:

                      @kiwiwomble said in Foster, Robertson, Other Options etc:

                      I hope you're right though and we're close to "clicking"

                      i didn't say that, at all

                      sorry, must have misunderstood, i asked if we'd pinched a few wins would that be enough for fozzie to be considered to be doing a good job and you said yes, i took that as being only close to being acceptable

                      Winning lots is his only remit. The only metric that counts. The manner of those wins counts to fans and fuck all else.

                      So yeah, if we burgled those wins i would say he did pretty well

                      I never said we were close to clicking though. Beating Ireland that day would have been a robbery.

                      It is better this way. If we had burgled wins vs Ireland or France it would have given the NZRFU and the AB coaches priceless breathing room. And a chance to paper over our flaws

                      This sort of thing gets said a lot but unless you are close to the action I don’t think we really know what gets “papered over” or “emphasised”.

                      I don't think that's what he meant. Papered over to the public is more to the point. Which is a very fair point, and I agree that it's better for us to lose and show our weaknesses, than win through some individual magic and have the top brass singing Foster's praises.

                      Although losing hasn't stopped them doing so either, so it seems.

                      Are you saying that the coaches should come out after every game and highlight the weaknesses/errors? comments made to the media is a game and in my view we shouldn’t be expecting any in-depth analysis from the coaches or players.

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                      • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

                        @act-crusader said in Foster, Robertson, Other Options etc:

                        @canefan said in Foster, Robertson, Other Options etc:

                        @mariner4life said in Foster, Robertson, Other Options etc:

                        @kiwiwomble said in Foster, Robertson, Other Options etc:

                        @mariner4life said in Foster, Robertson, Other Options etc:

                        @kiwiwomble said in Foster, Robertson, Other Options etc:

                        I hope you're right though and we're close to "clicking"

                        i didn't say that, at all

                        sorry, must have misunderstood, i asked if we'd pinched a few wins would that be enough for fozzie to be considered to be doing a good job and you said yes, i took that as being only close to being acceptable

                        Winning lots is his only remit. The only metric that counts. The manner of those wins counts to fans and fuck all else.

                        So yeah, if we burgled those wins i would say he did pretty well

                        I never said we were close to clicking though. Beating Ireland that day would have been a robbery.

                        It is better this way. If we had burgled wins vs Ireland or France it would have given the NZRFU and the AB coaches priceless breathing room. And a chance to paper over our flaws

                        This sort of thing gets said a lot but unless you are close to the action I don’t think we really know what gets “papered over” or “emphasised”.

                        I do. In your AB team selections there is always one element emphasized!

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                        @nostrildamus said in Foster, Robertson, Other Options etc:

                        @act-crusader said in Foster, Robertson, Other Options etc:

                        @canefan said in Foster, Robertson, Other Options etc:

                        @mariner4life said in Foster, Robertson, Other Options etc:

                        @kiwiwomble said in Foster, Robertson, Other Options etc:

                        @mariner4life said in Foster, Robertson, Other Options etc:

                        @kiwiwomble said in Foster, Robertson, Other Options etc:

                        I hope you're right though and we're close to "clicking"

                        i didn't say that, at all

                        sorry, must have misunderstood, i asked if we'd pinched a few wins would that be enough for fozzie to be considered to be doing a good job and you said yes, i took that as being only close to being acceptable

                        Winning lots is his only remit. The only metric that counts. The manner of those wins counts to fans and fuck all else.

                        So yeah, if we burgled those wins i would say he did pretty well

                        I never said we were close to clicking though. Beating Ireland that day would have been a robbery.

                        It is better this way. If we had burgled wins vs Ireland or France it would have given the NZRFU and the AB coaches priceless breathing room. And a chance to paper over our flaws

                        This sort of thing gets said a lot but unless you are close to the action I don’t think we really know what gets “papered over” or “emphasised”.

                        I do. In your AB team selections there is always one element emphasized!

                        That was so 2019…

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                        • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                          @delicatessen said in Foster, Robertson, Other Options etc:

                          @act-crusader said in Foster, Robertson, Other Options etc:

                          @canefan said in Foster, Robertson, Other Options etc:

                          @mariner4life said in Foster, Robertson, Other Options etc:

                          @kiwiwomble said in Foster, Robertson, Other Options etc:

                          @mariner4life said in Foster, Robertson, Other Options etc:

                          @kiwiwomble said in Foster, Robertson, Other Options etc:

                          I hope you're right though and we're close to "clicking"

                          i didn't say that, at all

                          sorry, must have misunderstood, i asked if we'd pinched a few wins would that be enough for fozzie to be considered to be doing a good job and you said yes, i took that as being only close to being acceptable

                          Winning lots is his only remit. The only metric that counts. The manner of those wins counts to fans and fuck all else.

                          So yeah, if we burgled those wins i would say he did pretty well

                          I never said we were close to clicking though. Beating Ireland that day would have been a robbery.

                          It is better this way. If we had burgled wins vs Ireland or France it would have given the NZRFU and the AB coaches priceless breathing room. And a chance to paper over our flaws

                          This sort of thing gets said a lot but unless you are close to the action I don’t think we really know what gets “papered over” or “emphasised”.

                          I don't think that's what he meant. Papered over to the public is more to the point. Which is a very fair point, and I agree that it's better for us to lose and show our weaknesses, than win through some individual magic and have the top brass singing Foster's praises.

                          Although losing hasn't stopped them doing so either, so it seems.

                          Are you saying that the coaches should come out after every game and highlight the weaknesses/errors? comments made to the media is a game and in my view we shouldn’t be expecting any in-depth analysis from the coaches or players.

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                          @act-crusader said in Foster, Robertson, Other Options etc:

                          @delicatessen said in Foster, Robertson, Other Options etc:

                          @act-crusader said in Foster, Robertson, Other Options etc:

                          @canefan said in Foster, Robertson, Other Options etc:

                          @mariner4life said in Foster, Robertson, Other Options etc:

                          @kiwiwomble said in Foster, Robertson, Other Options etc:

                          @mariner4life said in Foster, Robertson, Other Options etc:

                          @kiwiwomble said in Foster, Robertson, Other Options etc:

                          I hope you're right though and we're close to "clicking"

                          i didn't say that, at all

                          sorry, must have misunderstood, i asked if we'd pinched a few wins would that be enough for fozzie to be considered to be doing a good job and you said yes, i took that as being only close to being acceptable

                          Winning lots is his only remit. The only metric that counts. The manner of those wins counts to fans and fuck all else.

                          So yeah, if we burgled those wins i would say he did pretty well

                          I never said we were close to clicking though. Beating Ireland that day would have been a robbery.

                          It is better this way. If we had burgled wins vs Ireland or France it would have given the NZRFU and the AB coaches priceless breathing room. And a chance to paper over our flaws

                          This sort of thing gets said a lot but unless you are close to the action I don’t think we really know what gets “papered over” or “emphasised”.

                          I don't think that's what he meant. Papered over to the public is more to the point. Which is a very fair point, and I agree that it's better for us to lose and show our weaknesses, than win through some individual magic and have the top brass singing Foster's praises.

                          Although losing hasn't stopped them doing so either, so it seems.

                          Are you saying that the coaches should come out after every game and highlight the weaknesses/errors? comments made to the media is a game and in my view we shouldn’t be expecting any in-depth analysis from the coaches or players.

                          Nope. I'm talking more about the folks who appointed the coaches. The coaching competence is the chasm that would've been hidden somewhat by fluking a couple of wins (in the eyes of Joe public at least). Yet even after losses showing obvious regression, NZR still dutifully support their man.

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                          • sparkyS sparky

                            My prediction: Foster will stay. Mooar and McLeod will carry the can.

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                            @sparky said in Foster, Robertson, Other Options etc:

                            My prediction: Foster will stay. Mooar and McLeod will carry the can.

                            That would be a good start, but really depends upon who their replacements are.

                            Do we have any decent defence coaches in NZ? Do we have any decent attack coaches who are also available?

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                              @sparky said in Foster, Robertson, Other Options etc:

                              My prediction: Foster will stay. Mooar and McLeod will carry the can.

                              That would be a good start, but really depends upon who their replacements are.

                              Do we have any decent defence coaches in NZ? Do we have any decent attack coaches who are also available?

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                              @junior said in Foster, Robertson, Other Options etc:

                              @sparky said in Foster, Robertson, Other Options etc:

                              My prediction: Foster will stay. Mooar and McLeod will carry the can.

                              That would be a good start, but really depends upon who their replacements are.

                              Do we have any decent defence coaches in NZ? Do we have any decent attack coaches who are also available?

                              Is it time for John Mitchell to come back and go from zero to hero?

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                                @delicatessen said in Foster, Robertson, Other Options etc:

                                @act-crusader said in Foster, Robertson, Other Options etc:

                                @canefan said in Foster, Robertson, Other Options etc:

                                @mariner4life said in Foster, Robertson, Other Options etc:

                                @kiwiwomble said in Foster, Robertson, Other Options etc:

                                @mariner4life said in Foster, Robertson, Other Options etc:

                                @kiwiwomble said in Foster, Robertson, Other Options etc:

                                I hope you're right though and we're close to "clicking"

                                i didn't say that, at all

                                sorry, must have misunderstood, i asked if we'd pinched a few wins would that be enough for fozzie to be considered to be doing a good job and you said yes, i took that as being only close to being acceptable

                                Winning lots is his only remit. The only metric that counts. The manner of those wins counts to fans and fuck all else.

                                So yeah, if we burgled those wins i would say he did pretty well

                                I never said we were close to clicking though. Beating Ireland that day would have been a robbery.

                                It is better this way. If we had burgled wins vs Ireland or France it would have given the NZRFU and the AB coaches priceless breathing room. And a chance to paper over our flaws

                                This sort of thing gets said a lot but unless you are close to the action I don’t think we really know what gets “papered over” or “emphasised”.

                                I don't think that's what he meant. Papered over to the public is more to the point. Which is a very fair point, and I agree that it's better for us to lose and show our weaknesses, than win through some individual magic and have the top brass singing Foster's praises.

                                Although losing hasn't stopped them doing so either, so it seems.

                                Are you saying that the coaches should come out after every game and highlight the weaknesses/errors? comments made to the media is a game and in my view we shouldn’t be expecting any in-depth analysis from the coaches or players.

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                                @act-crusader said in Foster, Robertson, Other Options etc:

                                @delicatessen said in Foster, Robertson, Other Options etc:

                                @act-crusader said in Foster, Robertson, Other Options etc:

                                @canefan said in Foster, Robertson, Other Options etc:

                                @mariner4life said in Foster, Robertson, Other Options etc:

                                @kiwiwomble said in Foster, Robertson, Other Options etc:

                                @mariner4life said in Foster, Robertson, Other Options etc:

                                @kiwiwomble said in Foster, Robertson, Other Options etc:

                                I hope you're right though and we're close to "clicking"

                                i didn't say that, at all

                                sorry, must have misunderstood, i asked if we'd pinched a few wins would that be enough for fozzie to be considered to be doing a good job and you said yes, i took that as being only close to being acceptable

                                Winning lots is his only remit. The only metric that counts. The manner of those wins counts to fans and fuck all else.

                                So yeah, if we burgled those wins i would say he did pretty well

                                I never said we were close to clicking though. Beating Ireland that day would have been a robbery.

                                It is better this way. If we had burgled wins vs Ireland or France it would have given the NZRFU and the AB coaches priceless breathing room. And a chance to paper over our flaws

                                This sort of thing gets said a lot but unless you are close to the action I don’t think we really know what gets “papered over” or “emphasised”.

                                I don't think that's what he meant. Papered over to the public is more to the point. Which is a very fair point, and I agree that it's better for us to lose and show our weaknesses, than win through some individual magic and have the top brass singing Foster's praises.

                                Although losing hasn't stopped them doing so either, so it seems.

                                Are you saying that the coaches should come out after every game and highlight the weaknesses/errors? comments made to the media is a game and in my view we shouldn’t be expecting any in-depth analysis from the coaches or players.

                                How do you feel the ABs are tracking? Are you concerned by what you have seen over the full season (which did include a RC win which the ABs peaked for)? Or are you seeing positive progression and are looking forward to 2022 🙂

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                                  @junior said in Foster, Robertson, Other Options etc:

                                  @sparky said in Foster, Robertson, Other Options etc:

                                  My prediction: Foster will stay. Mooar and McLeod will carry the can.

                                  That would be a good start, but really depends upon who their replacements are.

                                  Do we have any decent defence coaches in NZ? Do we have any decent attack coaches who are also available?

                                  Is it time for John Mitchell to come back and go from zero to hero?

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                                  @stodders said in Foster, Robertson, Other Options etc:

                                  @junior said in Foster, Robertson, Other Options etc:

                                  @sparky said in Foster, Robertson, Other Options etc:

                                  My prediction: Foster will stay. Mooar and McLeod will carry the can.

                                  That would be a good start, but really depends upon who their replacements are.

                                  Do we have any decent defence coaches in NZ? Do we have any decent attack coaches who are also available?

                                  Is it time for John Mitchell to come back and go from zero to hero?

                                  No

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                                    @stodders said in Foster, Robertson, Other Options etc:

                                    @junior said in Foster, Robertson, Other Options etc:

                                    @sparky said in Foster, Robertson, Other Options etc:

                                    My prediction: Foster will stay. Mooar and McLeod will carry the can.

                                    That would be a good start, but really depends upon who their replacements are.

                                    Do we have any decent defence coaches in NZ? Do we have any decent attack coaches who are also available?

                                    Is it time for John Mitchell to come back and go from zero to hero?

                                    No

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                                    @canefan said in Foster, Robertson, Other Options etc:

                                    @stodders said in Foster, Robertson, Other Options etc:

                                    @junior said in Foster, Robertson, Other Options etc:

                                    @sparky said in Foster, Robertson, Other Options etc:

                                    My prediction: Foster will stay. Mooar and McLeod will carry the can.

                                    That would be a good start, but really depends upon who their replacements are.

                                    Do we have any decent defence coaches in NZ? Do we have any decent attack coaches who are also available?

                                    Is it time for John Mitchell to come back and go from zero to hero?

                                    No

                                    His defensive coaching put paid to NZ's chances in RWC2019 and barely gave NZ a sniff. Surely he's spent long enough in purgatory now? He might bring some insights about England and NH rugby in general. Right now, NZ need as much insight as they can get to arrest the slide in performance.

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                                      reckon there is zero chance he resigns. Would you? Be honest.

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                                      @mariner4life said in Foster, Robertson, Other Options etc:

                                      reckon there is zero chance he resigns. Would you? Be honest.

                                      Absolutely not.

                                      It's best job in world.

                                      You can turn up, be useless, do absolutely nothing and still win 70%+ of your games due to the talent available.

                                      With zero effort you're still a puncher's chance to win at every World Cup.

                                      Fluke one of those and you get a knighthood, set for life on the after dinner speaking tour, and can maybe even flog your services to the RFU at a later date for £1m+ per year.

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                                        @canefan said in Foster, Robertson, Other Options etc:

                                        @stodders said in Foster, Robertson, Other Options etc:

                                        @junior said in Foster, Robertson, Other Options etc:

                                        @sparky said in Foster, Robertson, Other Options etc:

                                        My prediction: Foster will stay. Mooar and McLeod will carry the can.

                                        That would be a good start, but really depends upon who their replacements are.

                                        Do we have any decent defence coaches in NZ? Do we have any decent attack coaches who are also available?

                                        Is it time for John Mitchell to come back and go from zero to hero?

                                        No

                                        His defensive coaching put paid to NZ's chances in RWC2019 and barely gave NZ a sniff. Surely he's spent long enough in purgatory now? He might bring some insights about England and NH rugby in general. Right now, NZ need as much insight as they can get to arrest the slide in performance.

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                                        @stodders said in Foster, Robertson, Other Options etc:

                                        @canefan said in Foster, Robertson, Other Options etc:

                                        @stodders said in Foster, Robertson, Other Options etc:

                                        @junior said in Foster, Robertson, Other Options etc:

                                        @sparky said in Foster, Robertson, Other Options etc:

                                        My prediction: Foster will stay. Mooar and McLeod will carry the can.

                                        That would be a good start, but really depends upon who their replacements are.

                                        Do we have any decent defence coaches in NZ? Do we have any decent attack coaches who are also available?

                                        Is it time for John Mitchell to come back and go from zero to hero?

                                        No

                                        His defensive coaching put paid to NZ's chances in RWC2019 and barely gave NZ a sniff. Surely he's spent long enough in purgatory now? He might bring some insights about England and NH rugby in general. Right now, NZ need as much insight as they can get to arrest the slide in performance.

                                        I would think we could still do better than Mitch, but I would still take him over the guy currently in charge of our defence

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                                          @junior said in Foster, Robertson, Other Options etc:

                                          @sparky said in Foster, Robertson, Other Options etc:

                                          My prediction: Foster will stay. Mooar and McLeod will carry the can.

                                          That would be a good start, but really depends upon who their replacements are.

                                          Do we have any decent defence coaches in NZ? Do we have any decent attack coaches who are also available?

                                          Is it time for John Mitchell to come back and go from zero to hero?

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                                          @stodders said in Foster, Robertson, Other Options etc:

                                          @junior said in Foster, Robertson, Other Options etc:

                                          @sparky said in Foster, Robertson, Other Options etc:

                                          My prediction: Foster will stay. Mooar and McLeod will carry the can.

                                          That would be a good start, but really depends upon who their replacements are.

                                          Do we have any decent defence coaches in NZ? Do we have any decent attack coaches who are also available?

                                          Is it time for John Mitchell to come back and go from zero to hero?

                                          After how Daryl went in the T20 WC all is forgiven, Cueball for RWC 2023!

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