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Wallabies vs All Blacks 3 (Perth)

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  • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

    Article on the Wallabies ... I am not sure which Wayne Smith this is, but I agree with all of it
    https://www.watoday.com.au/sport/rugby-union/left-wanting-why-wallabies-need-a-new-direction-if-they-want-to-cut-out-mistakes-20210906-p58p69.html

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    @nostrildamus the criticism of the Australian tactics are fair... in the context of bled 1 and 2. In this game they they tried to play brumbie ball and it could even have worked but for Koriobete crawling, Lolesio missing that sitter and Lolesio missing touch following the red card.

    The problem for this Australian side is basically that they are not very good.

    They don't have the fire power to score quick tries so they need a whole bunch of things to go right to get points. This was demonstrated by Banks being run down quite easily by Reiko on that breakaway.

    Their contact skills aren't great so they can't get quick ball or slow down the all black ball. They are not going turn over ball at the set piece.

    I don't see how they fix any of that with tactics

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        @tim said in Wallabies vs All Blacks 3 (Perth):

        #booboo

        @machpants said in Wallabies vs All Blacks 3 (Perth):

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          @tim said in Wallabies vs All Blacks 3 (Perth):

          #booboo

          @machpants said in Wallabies vs All Blacks 3 (Perth):

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          @machpants Oops.

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            @tim Was every Weber pass in those highlights, a bounce pass? How was the hands from DMac on the move to pick that up eh.

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            • BonesB Bones

              @voodoo I thought it was Kerevi chasing him?

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              @bones said in Wallabies vs All Blacks 3 (Perth):

              @voodoo I thought it was Kerevi chasing him?

              Oops

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                @bones said in Wallabies vs All Blacks 3 (Perth):

                @voodoo I thought it was Kerevi chasing him?

                Oops

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                @voodoo said in Wallabies vs All Blacks 3 (Perth):

                @bones said in Wallabies vs All Blacks 3 (Perth):

                @voodoo I thought it was Kerevi chasing him?

                Oops

                It's OK Nisbo.

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                  @voodoo said in Wallabies vs All Blacks 3 (Perth):

                  @bones said in Wallabies vs All Blacks 3 (Perth):

                  @voodoo I thought it was Kerevi chasing him?

                  Oops

                  It's OK Nisbo.

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                  @gt12 said in Wallabies vs All Blacks 3 (Perth):

                  @voodoo said in Wallabies vs All Blacks 3 (Perth):

                  @bones said in Wallabies vs All Blacks 3 (Perth):

                  @voodoo I thought it was Kerevi chasing him?

                  Oops

                  It's OK Nisbo.

                  It was Fathers Day and I was 2 bottles deep already, cut me some slack bro...

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                    alt text

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                      I have no sympathy and (professionally speaking) wish him all the worse.

                      In a world where he could have taken on many high-paying coaching jobs, I still don't understand why - as a kiwi - you would choose to coach a team where the key metric would be taking the Bledisloe off us.

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                        @voodoo said in Wallabies vs All Blacks 3 (Perth):

                        @bones said in Wallabies vs All Blacks 3 (Perth):

                        @voodoo I thought it was Kerevi chasing him?

                        Oops

                        It's OK Nisbo.

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                        @gt12 said in Wallabies vs All Blacks 3 (Perth):

                        @voodoo said in Wallabies vs All Blacks 3 (Perth):

                        @bones said in Wallabies vs All Blacks 3 (Perth):

                        @voodoo I thought it was Kerevi chasing him?

                        Oops

                        It's OK Nisbo.

                        KELLAWAY CAN'T CATCH HIM

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                          https://www.rugbypass.com/news/why-paolo-odogwu-poses-all-black-jordie-barrett-a-potential-problem/

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                            I could be wrong but it seemed obvious that Nisbo and Meg were commentating from a studio in NZ, not at the stadium. That doesn't excuse Marshall's lack of knowledge of the laws, but at least he is consistent.

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                            @bovidae why is his nickname Meg?

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                              @bovidae why is his nickname Meg?

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                              @yeahtheboys

                              https://teara.govt.nz/en/cartoon/38760/all-blacks-and-make-up-2004

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                                https://www.rugbypass.com/news/why-paolo-odogwu-poses-all-black-jordie-barrett-a-potential-problem/

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                                  If dangerous contact with the head is a red card offence (no matter the intent, nor the outcome), then shouldn't whoever knocked Savea and Codie's heads be carded too? Just cos they weren't out in the open, doesn't mean they aren't dangerous.

                                  The ref probably made the right call on the Barret face kick, but that makes a mockery of the idea that rugby wants to protect player welfare. Rugby only wants to protect the image of player welfare.

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                                    If dangerous contact with the head is a red card offence (no matter the intent, nor the outcome), then shouldn't whoever knocked Savea and Codie's heads be carded too? Just cos they weren't out in the open, doesn't mean they aren't dangerous.

                                    The ref probably made the right call on the Barret face kick, but that makes a mockery of the idea that rugby wants to protect player welfare. Rugby only wants to protect the image of player welfare.

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                                    @delicatessen said in Wallabies vs All Blacks 3 (Perth):

                                    If dangerous contact with the head is a red card offence (no matter the intent, nor the outcome), then shouldn't whoever knocked Savea and Codie's heads be carded too? Just cos they weren't out in the open, doesn't mean they aren't dangerous.

                                    ... and Hooper's facial cut from Retallick.

                                    The key for me is foreseeability of action. Lifting your sprigs, even in reflex, can directly lead to sprigs in faces. The link to Paolo Odogwu is clear - no intent, but a reckless action. That's what will probably sink JB here.

                                    The other contacts arguably aren't part of reckless actions- tackles gone wrong (Taylor, Savea), or just dynamic running (Retallick). So I can see a differentiator.

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                                      If dangerous contact with the head is a red card offence (no matter the intent, nor the outcome), then shouldn't whoever knocked Savea and Codie's heads be carded too? Just cos they weren't out in the open, doesn't mean they aren't dangerous.

                                      The ref probably made the right call on the Barret face kick, but that makes a mockery of the idea that rugby wants to protect player welfare. Rugby only wants to protect the image of player welfare.

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                                      @delicatessen said in Wallabies vs All Blacks 3 (Perth):

                                      If dangerous contact with the head is a red card offence (no matter the intent, nor the outcome), then shouldn't whoever knocked Savea and Codie's heads be carded too? Just cos they weren't out in the open, doesn't mean they aren't dangerous.

                                      The ref probably made the right call on the Barret face kick, but that makes a mockery of the idea that rugby wants to protect player welfare. Rugby only wants to protect the image of player welfare.

                                      I think an example would be BBBR kicking Hooper in the face and opening up a decent gash. If a boot to the face is an automatic red then BBBR can count himself pretty lucky.

                                      Fucken dammit. Too slow.

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                                        @delicatessen said in Wallabies vs All Blacks 3 (Perth):

                                        If dangerous contact with the head is a red card offence (no matter the intent, nor the outcome), then shouldn't whoever knocked Savea and Codie's heads be carded too? Just cos they weren't out in the open, doesn't mean they aren't dangerous.

                                        The ref probably made the right call on the Barret face kick, but that makes a mockery of the idea that rugby wants to protect player welfare. Rugby only wants to protect the image of player welfare.

                                        I think an example would be BBBR kicking Hooper in the face and opening up a decent gash. If a boot to the face is an automatic red then BBBR can count himself pretty lucky.

                                        Fucken dammit. Too slow.

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                                        @toddy said in Wallabies vs All Blacks 3 (Perth):

                                        Fucken dammit. Too slow.

                                        What are you, Scott Barrett playing 6?

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                                        • Y Yeahtheboys

                                          @bovidae why is his nickname Meg?

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                                          @yeahtheboys Meg Ryan

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