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No problem with Championship Winning 1st 5 Bryn Gatland waiting in the wings.
Now if Cruden gets injured ...
Add to that the usual absences from Retallick and Cane, and injuries to Bird and several frontrow players, and you've got a disaster in the making.
@Tim so, last year then
If you're out for a year with a head knock, then perhaps giving it away is the best option.
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actually, for those paying attention, what does our first choice XXIII look like now?
My guess would be:
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Hames
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Harris/Elliot
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Laulala
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Retallick
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Bird
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Messam
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Cane
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Leitch
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TKB
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Cruden
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Lowe
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Ngatai (or Fa'auli/Donald)
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ALB
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TNW/Pulu
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DMac
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Harris/Elliot
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Graham
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Moli
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Seu
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Sanders/Boshier
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Weber
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Fa'auli/Donald
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McNicol/Stevenson
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@Tim said in Super Rugby News:
Woeful midfield depth is major reason why the Chiefs will miss the playoffs this year.
People said the exact same shit at the start of last season when SBW went off to play Sevens and how'd that turn out?
What's up with your snipes at the Chiefs lately though? Getting a bit uppity before the reality that the Blues are still the Blues comes crashing down? :thinking:
Anyway, gutted Ngatai's still out. They sounded pretty positive late last year, so I was hopeful he'd come right in time for a full season. Great to hear he is on the improve though, even if it is a slow process.
Also gutted they're seriously looking at TNW as a midfield option. He should really only be looked at as emergency midfield cover and nothing more, dude can't tackle for shit.
That 23 looks ideal, Bovidae.
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Now this is shit news:
Charlie Ngatai could miss entire Super Rugby season
While it was far from a certainty that he would get a spot in the ABs team for the Lions tour if he had played Super Rugby this season, he can forget about it now completely.
@Stargazer said in Super Rugby News:
Now this is shit news:
Charlie Ngatai could miss entire Super Rugby season
While it was far from a certainty that he would get a spot in the ABs team for the Lions tour if he had played Super Rugby this season, he can forget about it now completely.
Doubly shit in that the Chiefs have got their grubby hands on Nankivell!
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@Tim said in Super Rugby News:
Woeful midfield depth is major reason why the Chiefs will miss the playoffs this year.
People said the exact same shit at the start of last season when SBW went off to play Sevens and how'd that turn out?
What's up with your snipes at the Chiefs lately though? Getting a bit uppity before the reality that the Blues are still the Blues comes crashing down? :thinking:
Anyway, gutted Ngatai's still out. They sounded pretty positive late last year, so I was hopeful he'd come right in time for a full season. Great to hear he is on the improve though, even if it is a slow process.
Also gutted they're seriously looking at TNW as a midfield option. He should really only be looked at as emergency midfield cover and nothing more, dude can't tackle for shit.
That 23 looks ideal, Bovidae.
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So Cruden doesn't like the fact the world knows about him buggering off to France. Maybe wanted to keep it secret from Hansen until afterJune...
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My guess would be:
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Hames
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Harris/Elliot
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Laulala
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Retallick
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Bird
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Messam
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Cane
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Leitch
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TKB
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Cruden
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Lowe
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Ngatai (or Fa'auli/Donald)
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ALB
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TNW/Pulu
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DMac
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Harris/Elliot
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Graham
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Moli
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Seu
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Sanders/Boshier
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Weber
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Fa'auli/Donald
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McNicol/Stevenson
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@Bovidae solid pack, good halves, now a bit light in midfield. But the bench looks ordinary, and i don't know about the strike power out wide
@mariner4life I think there is the potential to have a strong bench with impact, especially in the forwards. All of those players started in a number of games for the Chiefs last season. The 2 back reserves could be between 4-5 players depending on the selections at 12/13 and 14.
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My guess would be:
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Hames
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Harris/Elliot
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Laulala
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Retallick
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Bird
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Messam
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Cane
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Leitch
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TKB
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Cruden
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Lowe
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Ngatai (or Fa'auli/Donald)
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ALB
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TNW/Pulu
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DMac
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Harris/Elliot
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Graham
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Moli
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Seu
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Sanders/Boshier
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Weber
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Fa'auli/Donald
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McNicol/Stevenson
@Bovidae said in Super Rugby News:
My guess would be:
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Hames
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Harris/Elliot
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Laulala
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Retallick
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Bird
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Messam
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Cane
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Leitch
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TKB
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Cruden
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Lowe
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Ngatai (or Fa'auli/Donald)
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ALB
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TNW/Pulu
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DMac
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Harris/Elliot
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Graham
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Moli
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Seu
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Sanders/Boshier
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Weber
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Fa'auli/Donald
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McNicol/Stevenson
Is McNicol already back to full training? Missed the entire Mitre 10 Cup season due to ... yes, there it is again, concussion.
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So Cruden doesn't like the fact the world knows about him buggering off to France. Maybe wanted to keep it secret from Hansen until afterJune...
@Wurzel said in Super Rugby News:
So Cruden doesn't like the fact the world knows about him buggering off to France. Maybe wanted to keep it secret from Hansen until afterJune...
Did you read the article? He said he would have preferred to put the news out himself then have it leaked and can't do anything about all a sundry discussing his supposed remuneration. All fairly reasonable things. As for keeping it secret from Hansen that is pure speculation on your part and if he did want to do that so what? You tell your boss when your scouring the job sites?
Don't be petty he has been a great servant to NZ rugby and Waikato. He deserves a pay day and hopefully will do a Beaver and come back to NZ after a few years to end his career.
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@Bovidae said in Super Rugby News:
My guess would be:
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Hames
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Harris/Elliot
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Laulala
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Retallick
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Bird
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Messam
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Cane
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Leitch
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TKB
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Cruden
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Lowe
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Ngatai (or Fa'auli/Donald)
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ALB
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TNW/Pulu
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DMac
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Harris/Elliot
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Graham
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Moli
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Seu
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Sanders/Boshier
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Weber
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Fa'auli/Donald
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McNicol/Stevenson
Is McNicol already back to full training? Missed the entire Mitre 10 Cup season due to ... yes, there it is again, concussion.
@Stargazer I honestly don't know about the current health of McNicol, I was just basing my team on the squad.
I'll try to go to a training in the next week to see who is on deck to play.
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@Tim said in Super Rugby News:
Woeful midfield depth is major reason why the Chiefs will miss the playoffs this year.
People said the exact same shit at the start of last season when SBW went off to play Sevens and how'd that turn out?
What's up with your snipes at the Chiefs lately though? Getting a bit uppity before the reality that the Blues are still the Blues comes crashing down? :thinking:
Anyway, gutted Ngatai's still out. They sounded pretty positive late last year, so I was hopeful he'd come right in time for a full season. Great to hear he is on the improve though, even if it is a slow process.
Also gutted they're seriously looking at TNW as a midfield option. He should really only be looked at as emergency midfield cover and nothing more, dude can't tackle for shit.
That 23 looks ideal, Bovidae.
@Unco said in Super Rugby News:
@Tim said in Super Rugby News:
Woeful midfield depth is major reason why the Chiefs will miss the playoffs this year.
People said the exact same shit at the start of last season when SBW went off to play Sevens and how'd that turn out?
What's up with your snipes at the Chiefs lately though? Getting a bit uppity before the reality that the Blues are still the Blues comes crashing down? :thinking:
Anyway, gutted Ngatai's still out. They sounded pretty positive late last year, so I was hopeful he'd come right in time for a full season. Great to hear he is on the improve though, even if it is a slow process.
Also gutted they're seriously looking at TNW as a midfield option. He should really only be looked at as emergency midfield cover and nothing more, dude can't tackle for shit.
That 23 looks ideal, Bovidae.
Rennie said 'midfield cover' with regard to TNW. Quite obvious when he has done that job in the past that he would be mentioned as an option again.
I like the idea of Beaver at 12. Has the experience to do a Crotty type role which will also be of benefit to ALB. TNW on the bench would make sense though along with another midfielder or attacking threequarter. If Cruden and DMac both start then having Timmy on the field makes things a bit too small overall, however the shape and gameplan wouldn't have to change much should one of them go off.
BTW maybe Messam not taking a leadership role is because he is secretly concentrating on wearing 13. -
@Wurzel said in Super Rugby News:
So Cruden doesn't like the fact the world knows about him buggering off to France. Maybe wanted to keep it secret from Hansen until afterJune...
Did you read the article? He said he would have preferred to put the news out himself then have it leaked and can't do anything about all a sundry discussing his supposed remuneration. All fairly reasonable things. As for keeping it secret from Hansen that is pure speculation on your part and if he did want to do that so what? You tell your boss when your scouring the job sites?
Don't be petty he has been a great servant to NZ rugby and Waikato. He deserves a pay day and hopefully will do a Beaver and come back to NZ after a few years to end his career.
@mooshld Cruden doesn't deserve any better special treatment than any others who have signed offshore. He isn't the first and won't be the last All Black to have his contract and its terms speculated, rumoured and reported. And it was the French papers that spilled beans first anyway.
It's been interesting to read a few Hamilton-based journos on Twitter yesterday suggesting Cruden should be thankful for their treatment of him in recent years, keeping mum about the specifics around his various misdemeanours from the missed flight to Mad Monday.
BTW, I was having a bit of fun with the Hansen remark so chill.
