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  • mariner4lifeM Offline
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    mariner4life
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    #1077

    actually, for those paying attention, what does our first choice XXIII look like now?

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      Bovidae
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      #1078

      @Tim It's Beaver time!!

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      • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

        actually, for those paying attention, what does our first choice XXIII look like now?

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        Bovidae
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        #1079

        @mariner4life

        My guess would be:

        1. Hames

        2. Harris/Elliot

        3. Laulala

        4. Retallick

        5. Bird

        6. Messam

        7. Cane

        8. Leitch

        9. TKB

        10. Cruden

        11. Lowe

        12. Ngatai (or Fa'auli/Donald)

        13. ALB

        14. TNW/Pulu

        15. DMac

        16. Harris/Elliot

        17. Graham

        18. Moli

        19. Seu

        20. Sanders/Boshier

        21. Weber

        22. Fa'auli/Donald

        23. McNicol/Stevenson

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        • TimT Tim

          Woeful midfield depth is major reason why the Chiefs will miss the playoffs this year.

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          Unco
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          #1080

          @Tim said in Super Rugby News:

          Woeful midfield depth is major reason why the Chiefs will miss the playoffs this year.

          People said the exact same shit at the start of last season when SBW went off to play Sevens and how'd that turn out?

          What's up with your snipes at the Chiefs lately though? Getting a bit uppity before the reality that the Blues are still the Blues comes crashing down? :thinking:

          Anyway, gutted Ngatai's still out. They sounded pretty positive late last year, so I was hopeful he'd come right in time for a full season. Great to hear he is on the improve though, even if it is a slow process.

          Also gutted they're seriously looking at TNW as a midfield option. He should really only be looked at as emergency midfield cover and nothing more, dude can't tackle for shit.

          That 23 looks ideal, Bovidae.

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          • StargazerS Stargazer

            Now this is shit news:

            Charlie Ngatai could miss entire Super Rugby season

            While it was far from a certainty that he would get a spot in the ABs team for the Lions tour if he had played Super Rugby this season, he can forget about it now completely.

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            Chris B.
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            #1081

            @Stargazer said in Super Rugby News:

            Now this is shit news:

            Charlie Ngatai could miss entire Super Rugby season

            While it was far from a certainty that he would get a spot in the ABs team for the Lions tour if he had played Super Rugby this season, he can forget about it now completely.

            Doubly shit in that the Chiefs have got their grubby hands on Nankivell!

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            • UncoU Unco

              @Tim said in Super Rugby News:

              Woeful midfield depth is major reason why the Chiefs will miss the playoffs this year.

              People said the exact same shit at the start of last season when SBW went off to play Sevens and how'd that turn out?

              What's up with your snipes at the Chiefs lately though? Getting a bit uppity before the reality that the Blues are still the Blues comes crashing down? :thinking:

              Anyway, gutted Ngatai's still out. They sounded pretty positive late last year, so I was hopeful he'd come right in time for a full season. Great to hear he is on the improve though, even if it is a slow process.

              Also gutted they're seriously looking at TNW as a midfield option. He should really only be looked at as emergency midfield cover and nothing more, dude can't tackle for shit.

              That 23 looks ideal, Bovidae.

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              Tim
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              #1082

              @Unco I'm having a laugh in the preseason.

              Good to see that you're as sensitive as ever.

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              • BovidaeB Offline
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                Bovidae
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                #1083

                Speaking of the preseason, Blues vs Chiefs at Takapuna on Feb 17.

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                • WurzelW Offline
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                  #1084

                  So Cruden doesn't like the fact the world knows about him buggering off to France. Maybe wanted to keep it secret from Hansen until afterJune...

                  http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/88916881/chiefs-firstfive-aaron-cruden-still-prickly-over-montpellier-move

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                  • BovidaeB Bovidae

                    @mariner4life

                    My guess would be:

                    1. Hames

                    2. Harris/Elliot

                    3. Laulala

                    4. Retallick

                    5. Bird

                    6. Messam

                    7. Cane

                    8. Leitch

                    9. TKB

                    10. Cruden

                    11. Lowe

                    12. Ngatai (or Fa'auli/Donald)

                    13. ALB

                    14. TNW/Pulu

                    15. DMac

                    16. Harris/Elliot

                    17. Graham

                    18. Moli

                    19. Seu

                    20. Sanders/Boshier

                    21. Weber

                    22. Fa'auli/Donald

                    23. McNicol/Stevenson

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                    mariner4life
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #1085

                    @Bovidae solid pack, good halves, now a bit light in midfield. But the bench looks ordinary, and i don't know about the strike power out wide

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                    • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                      @Bovidae solid pack, good halves, now a bit light in midfield. But the bench looks ordinary, and i don't know about the strike power out wide

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                      Bovidae
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                      #1086

                      @mariner4life I think there is the potential to have a strong bench with impact, especially in the forwards. All of those players started in a number of games for the Chiefs last season. The 2 back reserves could be between 4-5 players depending on the selections at 12/13 and 14.

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                      • BovidaeB Bovidae

                        @mariner4life

                        My guess would be:

                        1. Hames

                        2. Harris/Elliot

                        3. Laulala

                        4. Retallick

                        5. Bird

                        6. Messam

                        7. Cane

                        8. Leitch

                        9. TKB

                        10. Cruden

                        11. Lowe

                        12. Ngatai (or Fa'auli/Donald)

                        13. ALB

                        14. TNW/Pulu

                        15. DMac

                        16. Harris/Elliot

                        17. Graham

                        18. Moli

                        19. Seu

                        20. Sanders/Boshier

                        21. Weber

                        22. Fa'auli/Donald

                        23. McNicol/Stevenson

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                        Stargazer
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                        #1087

                        @Bovidae said in Super Rugby News:

                        @mariner4life

                        My guess would be:

                        1. Hames

                        2. Harris/Elliot

                        3. Laulala

                        4. Retallick

                        5. Bird

                        6. Messam

                        7. Cane

                        8. Leitch

                        9. TKB

                        10. Cruden

                        11. Lowe

                        12. Ngatai (or Fa'auli/Donald)

                        13. ALB

                        14. TNW/Pulu

                        15. DMac

                        16. Harris/Elliot

                        17. Graham

                        18. Moli

                        19. Seu

                        20. Sanders/Boshier

                        21. Weber

                        22. Fa'auli/Donald

                        23. McNicol/Stevenson

                        Is McNicol already back to full training? Missed the entire Mitre 10 Cup season due to ... yes, there it is again, concussion.

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                        • WurzelW Wurzel

                          So Cruden doesn't like the fact the world knows about him buggering off to France. Maybe wanted to keep it secret from Hansen until afterJune...

                          http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/88916881/chiefs-firstfive-aaron-cruden-still-prickly-over-montpellier-move

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                          mooshld
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #1088

                          @Wurzel said in Super Rugby News:

                          So Cruden doesn't like the fact the world knows about him buggering off to France. Maybe wanted to keep it secret from Hansen until afterJune...

                          http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/88916881/chiefs-firstfive-aaron-cruden-still-prickly-over-montpellier-move

                          Did you read the article? He said he would have preferred to put the news out himself then have it leaked and can't do anything about all a sundry discussing his supposed remuneration. All fairly reasonable things. As for keeping it secret from Hansen that is pure speculation on your part and if he did want to do that so what? You tell your boss when your scouring the job sites?

                          Don't be petty he has been a great servant to NZ rugby and Waikato. He deserves a pay day and hopefully will do a Beaver and come back to NZ after a few years to end his career.

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                          • StargazerS Stargazer

                            @Bovidae said in Super Rugby News:

                            @mariner4life

                            My guess would be:

                            1. Hames

                            2. Harris/Elliot

                            3. Laulala

                            4. Retallick

                            5. Bird

                            6. Messam

                            7. Cane

                            8. Leitch

                            9. TKB

                            10. Cruden

                            11. Lowe

                            12. Ngatai (or Fa'auli/Donald)

                            13. ALB

                            14. TNW/Pulu

                            15. DMac

                            16. Harris/Elliot

                            17. Graham

                            18. Moli

                            19. Seu

                            20. Sanders/Boshier

                            21. Weber

                            22. Fa'auli/Donald

                            23. McNicol/Stevenson

                            Is McNicol already back to full training? Missed the entire Mitre 10 Cup season due to ... yes, there it is again, concussion.

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                            Bovidae
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                            #1089

                            @Stargazer I honestly don't know about the current health of McNicol, I was just basing my team on the squad.

                            I'll try to go to a training in the next week to see who is on deck to play.

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                            • UncoU Unco

                              @Tim said in Super Rugby News:

                              Woeful midfield depth is major reason why the Chiefs will miss the playoffs this year.

                              People said the exact same shit at the start of last season when SBW went off to play Sevens and how'd that turn out?

                              What's up with your snipes at the Chiefs lately though? Getting a bit uppity before the reality that the Blues are still the Blues comes crashing down? :thinking:

                              Anyway, gutted Ngatai's still out. They sounded pretty positive late last year, so I was hopeful he'd come right in time for a full season. Great to hear he is on the improve though, even if it is a slow process.

                              Also gutted they're seriously looking at TNW as a midfield option. He should really only be looked at as emergency midfield cover and nothing more, dude can't tackle for shit.

                              That 23 looks ideal, Bovidae.

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                              Crucial
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                              #1090

                              @Unco said in Super Rugby News:

                              @Tim said in Super Rugby News:

                              Woeful midfield depth is major reason why the Chiefs will miss the playoffs this year.

                              People said the exact same shit at the start of last season when SBW went off to play Sevens and how'd that turn out?

                              What's up with your snipes at the Chiefs lately though? Getting a bit uppity before the reality that the Blues are still the Blues comes crashing down? :thinking:

                              Anyway, gutted Ngatai's still out. They sounded pretty positive late last year, so I was hopeful he'd come right in time for a full season. Great to hear he is on the improve though, even if it is a slow process.

                              Also gutted they're seriously looking at TNW as a midfield option. He should really only be looked at as emergency midfield cover and nothing more, dude can't tackle for shit.

                              That 23 looks ideal, Bovidae.

                              Rennie said 'midfield cover' with regard to TNW. Quite obvious when he has done that job in the past that he would be mentioned as an option again.
                              I like the idea of Beaver at 12. Has the experience to do a Crotty type role which will also be of benefit to ALB. TNW on the bench would make sense though along with another midfielder or attacking threequarter. If Cruden and DMac both start then having Timmy on the field makes things a bit too small overall, however the shape and gameplan wouldn't have to change much should one of them go off.
                              BTW maybe Messam not taking a leadership role is because he is secretly concentrating on wearing 13.

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                                @Wurzel said in Super Rugby News:

                                So Cruden doesn't like the fact the world knows about him buggering off to France. Maybe wanted to keep it secret from Hansen until afterJune...

                                http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/88916881/chiefs-firstfive-aaron-cruden-still-prickly-over-montpellier-move

                                Did you read the article? He said he would have preferred to put the news out himself then have it leaked and can't do anything about all a sundry discussing his supposed remuneration. All fairly reasonable things. As for keeping it secret from Hansen that is pure speculation on your part and if he did want to do that so what? You tell your boss when your scouring the job sites?

                                Don't be petty he has been a great servant to NZ rugby and Waikato. He deserves a pay day and hopefully will do a Beaver and come back to NZ after a few years to end his career.

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                                Wurzel
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #1091

                                @mooshld Cruden doesn't deserve any better special treatment than any others who have signed offshore. He isn't the first and won't be the last All Black to have his contract and its terms speculated, rumoured and reported. And it was the French papers that spilled beans first anyway.

                                It's been interesting to read a few Hamilton-based journos on Twitter yesterday suggesting Cruden should be thankful for their treatment of him in recent years, keeping mum about the specifics around his various misdemeanours from the missed flight to Mad Monday.

                                BTW, I was having a bit of fun with the Hansen remark so chill.

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                                  Tim
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                                  #1092

                                  SBW out for the first five weeks.

                                  Piers Francis favoured to fill in at 12.

                                  James Parsons still suffering from concussion, hopes to return in the "early rounds".

                                  http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/88984956/blues-confident-they-can-cover-sonny-bill-williams-and-james-parsons-injuries

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                                    Tim
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                                    #1093

                                    From the Brisbane 10s squad it would seem that (BOP/NZ Maori/former NH) hooker Joe Royal has been called into the Blues as cover.

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                                      Cpt Kumera
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                                      #1094

                                      joe has been in blues pre season since before Christmas as injury cover

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                                      • WurzelW Wurzel

                                        @mooshld Cruden doesn't deserve any better special treatment than any others who have signed offshore. He isn't the first and won't be the last All Black to have his contract and its terms speculated, rumoured and reported. And it was the French papers that spilled beans first anyway.

                                        It's been interesting to read a few Hamilton-based journos on Twitter yesterday suggesting Cruden should be thankful for their treatment of him in recent years, keeping mum about the specifics around his various misdemeanours from the missed flight to Mad Monday.

                                        BTW, I was having a bit of fun with the Hansen remark so chill.

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                                        mooshld
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                                        #1095

                                        @Wurzel said in Super Rugby News:

                                        @mooshld Cruden doesn't deserve any better special treatment than any others who have signed offshore. He isn't the first and won't be the last All Black to have his contract and its terms speculated, rumoured and reported. And it was the French papers that spilled beans first anyway.

                                        It's been interesting to read a few Hamilton-based journos on Twitter yesterday suggesting Cruden should be thankful for their treatment of him in recent years, keeping mum about the specifics around his various misdemeanours from the missed flight to Mad Monday.

                                        BTW, I was having a bit of fun with the Hansen remark so chill.

                                        I'm not pointing the finger just agreeing with him there is fuck all he can do about it. You can't make him enjoy it. As he says it is what it is.

                                        Sorry I read your post as being more bitter then it probably was. I mean he has done his time in my view.

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                                          After midweek confirmation that James Broadhurst is no closer to a return, the Hurricanes' locking stocks took another hit with the news that Hawke's Bay's Geoff Cridge, who had a knee operation after the Magpies' Mitre 10 Cup campaign, will be gone for the season.

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