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  • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

    Reports doing the rounds that Cheetahs, Kings and one Aussie side to get cut to make it a Super 15.

    http://m.sarugbymag.co.za/?postslug=/blog/details/cheetahs-facing-super-rugby-axe

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    @KiwiMurph said in Super Rugby News:

    Reports doing the rounds that Cheetahs, Kings and one Aussie side to get cut to make it a Super 15.

    http://m.sarugbymag.co.za/?postslug=/blog/details/cheetahs-facing-super-rugby-axe

    Would be a disaster if the Cheetahs were axed (for SA rugby). Sure they have poor attendance but pretty much on par with some NZ and OZ sides. Too many good players coming through that province and if they had a draft system in South Africa to allow the Cheetahs to fill in the gaps they'd be much more competitive.

    Drop the Kings, Sunwolves & Rebels - then have 3 divisions of 5 with the Jaguares playing in the Australian conference. Sounds good to me.

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      Doubt the Rebels will go. They need the Melbourne presence. Unless they can create some sort of alliance with the Brumbies in the South East of the country.

      There's a rugby community in Perth with the expat Saffas and Kiwis but the Farce are losing money.

      WRT the Cheetahs surely there can be some sort of amalgamation of regions with the Transvaal teams? Surely there are similarities and synergies that can be exploited?

      As for growing in the Eastern Cape put some responsibility back on the other coastal franchises.

      Basically restructure your franchises away from the provinces. Kind of like how the NZ teams are MEANT to work.

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        Doubt the Rebels will go. They need the Melbourne presence. Unless they can create some sort of alliance with the Brumbies in the South East of the country.

        There's a rugby community in Perth with the expat Saffas and Kiwis but the Farce are losing money.

        WRT the Cheetahs surely there can be some sort of amalgamation of regions with the Transvaal teams? Surely there are similarities and synergies that can be exploited?

        As for growing in the Eastern Cape put some responsibility back on the other coastal franchises.

        Basically restructure your franchises away from the provinces. Kind of like how the NZ teams are MEANT to work.

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        @booboo The Brumbies don't make money and they aren't getting crowds. I'd continue the investment in Melbourne and Perth if I was the ARU.

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        • KirwanK Kirwan

          @KiwiMurph said in Super Rugby News:

          Reports doing the rounds that Cheetahs, Kings and one Aussie side to get cut to make it a Super 15.

          http://m.sarugbymag.co.za/?postslug=/blog/details/cheetahs-facing-super-rugby-axe

          Wish it could go back to just 12.

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          @Kirwan said in Super Rugby News:

          @KiwiMurph said in Super Rugby News:

          Reports doing the rounds that Cheetahs, Kings and one Aussie side to get cut to make it a Super 15.

          http://m.sarugbymag.co.za/?postslug=/blog/details/cheetahs-facing-super-rugby-axe

          Wish it could go back to just 12.

          Word to this post Kirwan. I hate how the fishheads ( copyright Norm Hewitt ) made a perfectly good competition into something convoluted and boring.

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          • antipodeanA antipodean

            @booboo The Brumbies don't make money and they aren't getting crowds. I'd continue the investment in Melbourne and Perth if I was the ARU.

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            @antipodean said in Super Rugby News:

            @booboo The Brumbies don't make money and they aren't getting crowds. I'd continue the investment in Melbourne and Perth if I was the ARU.

            Agree. No reason why Brumbies can't merge back with Tahs and strengthen Rebels as well.

            Arguments look to be

            Rebels - big market, lots of investment, long term view but currently a crap team
            Force - market still struggling and financially being propped up but the only presence in WA and geographically a good place for breaking up travel to and from SA.
            Brumbies - financially in the shitter, local market hasn't developed except for fair weather fans, not developing enough local players to stop them weakening other teams.
            Tahs and Reds - will never happen

            If the Brumbies were to merge back into the Tahs and the non Sydney players were to disperse back to where they came from or go to Rebels and Force the picture would look balanced in both strength and geography/presence. It's not like the Tahs couldn't play the odd game in Canberra.

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            • CrucialC Crucial

              @antipodean said in Super Rugby News:

              @booboo The Brumbies don't make money and they aren't getting crowds. I'd continue the investment in Melbourne and Perth if I was the ARU.

              Agree. No reason why Brumbies can't merge back with Tahs and strengthen Rebels as well.

              Arguments look to be

              Rebels - big market, lots of investment, long term view but currently a crap team
              Force - market still struggling and financially being propped up but the only presence in WA and geographically a good place for breaking up travel to and from SA.
              Brumbies - financially in the shitter, local market hasn't developed except for fair weather fans, not developing enough local players to stop them weakening other teams.
              Tahs and Reds - will never happen

              If the Brumbies were to merge back into the Tahs and the non Sydney players were to disperse back to where they came from or go to Rebels and Force the picture would look balanced in both strength and geography/presence. It's not like the Tahs couldn't play the odd game in Canberra.

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              @Crucial said in Super Rugby News:

              It's not like the Tahs couldn't play the odd game in Canberra.

              That would be self-defeating. Canberrans hate the Tahs.

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              • antipodeanA antipodean

                @Crucial said in Super Rugby News:

                It's not like the Tahs couldn't play the odd game in Canberra.

                That would be self-defeating. Canberrans hate the Tahs.

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                @antipodean said in Super Rugby News:

                @Crucial said in Super Rugby News:

                It's not like the Tahs couldn't play the odd game in Canberra.

                That would be self-defeating. Canberrans hate the Tahs.

                I know, but it would be fun to see.

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                • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                  Reports doing the rounds that Cheetahs, Kings and one Aussie side to get cut to make it a Super 15.

                  http://m.sarugbymag.co.za/?postslug=/blog/details/cheetahs-facing-super-rugby-axe

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                  @KiwiMurph said in Super Rugby News:

                  Reports doing the rounds that Cheetahs, Kings and one Aussie side to get cut to make it a Super 15.

                  http://m.sarugbymag.co.za/?postslug=/blog/details/cheetahs-facing-super-rugby-axe

                  Am I the only one who gets a "Reclaim your sexual confidence" ad on that SA Rugby Mag website?
                  I'm pretty sure it's not my own browsing history to blame (only because this is on my work computer - and all my attempts to reclaim my sexual confidence are done in the privacy of home).
                  Has the impotence of the Springboks affected the fanbase?

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                    I'd also prefer the Sunwolves to be dropped instead of the Cheetahs. Organise a North Pacific competition with professional Japanese, USA and Canadian teams. Then the Sunwolves would have a good chance of winning games, too. Apart from financial reasons, there is no other excuse for letting them dilute the Super Rugby competition.

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                    • StargazerS Stargazer

                      I'd also prefer the Sunwolves to be dropped instead of the Cheetahs. Organise a North Pacific competition with professional Japanese, USA and Canadian teams. Then the Sunwolves would have a good chance of winning games, too. Apart from financial reasons, there is no other excuse for letting them dilute the Super Rugby competition.

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                      @Stargazer said in Super Rugby News:

                      I'd also prefer the Sunwolves to be dropped instead of the Cheetahs. Organise a North Pacific competition with professional Japanese, USA and Canadian teams. Then the Sunwolves would have a good chance of winning games, too. Apart from financial reasons, there is no other excuse for letting them dilute the Super Rugby competition.

                      Maybe have the winner of that comp player the last placed team in the higher comp, and get variety that way?

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                        I would cut the Reds

                        Fuck the Reds

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                          I'd go directly backwards and cut the Kings, Jaguares, and Sunwolves.

                          The travel schedule was difficiult beforehand, but I think worked out about right where NZ teams would do a 2 week tour to SA. Now, trying to balance that with a potential trip to Sinagpore/Japan and Argentina - c'mon that's ridiculous.

                          It wasn't broken before, it doesn't need fixing.

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                            I feel like they're going to learn the wrong lessons from the last few years, drop a bunch of teams but keep the same long as fuck season and shitty finals setup around.

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                              Sounds like Milner Skudder is out at least 6 weeks with a fractured foot.

                              http://www.newshub.co.nz/home/sport/2017/03/hurricanes-fullback-nehe-milner-skudder-sidelined-for-six-weeks.html

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                                http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/90422620/super-rugby-to-cut-two-teams--report

                                So it appears that chopping three was too easy so only chop two and keep the pools all confused?

                                Glad to hear there is chopping.

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                                • HoorooH Hooroo

                                  http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/90422620/super-rugby-to-cut-two-teams--report

                                  So it appears that chopping three was too easy so only chop two and keep the pools all confused?

                                  Glad to hear there is chopping.

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                                  @Hooroo probably SARU stomped their feet and threatened to take their rugby teams and go to the NH if they had to drop 2 teams, surprised they will allow one given how hard they pushed for 6.

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                                  • HoorooH Hooroo

                                    http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/90422620/super-rugby-to-cut-two-teams--report

                                    So it appears that chopping three was too easy so only chop two and keep the pools all confused?

                                    Glad to hear there is chopping.

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                                    @Hooroo Hopefully it's the Kings and Brumbies.

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                                      Apparently, a 16 team draw is much harder logistically than a 15 team draw. I feel sorry for the admins who have to make that draw. Even just thinking about it gives me a head ache.

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                                      • StargazerS Stargazer

                                        Apparently, a 16 team draw is much harder logistically than a 15 team draw. I feel sorry for the admins who have to make that draw. Even just thinking about it gives me a head ache.

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                                        @Stargazer said in Super Rugby News:

                                        Apparently, a 16 team draw is much harder logistically than a 15 team draw. I feel sorry for the admins who have to make that draw. Even just thinking about it gives me a head ache.

                                        Nah it will be sweet as 3 fives make....... oh no wait.

                                        It's all cool as we all just have the 5 teams... no no wait. I will get there.

                                        NZ will have 5, Aus 4 and SA 4 with one from Japan and Argentina. That's it! No wait, hang on. I need to complicate this a bit.

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                                          http://twitter.com/1NewsSportNZ/status/841472642683039744

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