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  • boobooB booboo

    Doubt the Rebels will go. They need the Melbourne presence. Unless they can create some sort of alliance with the Brumbies in the South East of the country.

    There's a rugby community in Perth with the expat Saffas and Kiwis but the Farce are losing money.

    WRT the Cheetahs surely there can be some sort of amalgamation of regions with the Transvaal teams? Surely there are similarities and synergies that can be exploited?

    As for growing in the Eastern Cape put some responsibility back on the other coastal franchises.

    Basically restructure your franchises away from the provinces. Kind of like how the NZ teams are MEANT to work.

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    @booboo The Brumbies don't make money and they aren't getting crowds. I'd continue the investment in Melbourne and Perth if I was the ARU.

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    • KirwanK Kirwan

      @KiwiMurph said in Super Rugby News:

      Reports doing the rounds that Cheetahs, Kings and one Aussie side to get cut to make it a Super 15.

      http://m.sarugbymag.co.za/?postslug=/blog/details/cheetahs-facing-super-rugby-axe

      Wish it could go back to just 12.

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      #1351

      @Kirwan said in Super Rugby News:

      @KiwiMurph said in Super Rugby News:

      Reports doing the rounds that Cheetahs, Kings and one Aussie side to get cut to make it a Super 15.

      http://m.sarugbymag.co.za/?postslug=/blog/details/cheetahs-facing-super-rugby-axe

      Wish it could go back to just 12.

      Word to this post Kirwan. I hate how the fishheads ( copyright Norm Hewitt ) made a perfectly good competition into something convoluted and boring.

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      • antipodeanA antipodean

        @booboo The Brumbies don't make money and they aren't getting crowds. I'd continue the investment in Melbourne and Perth if I was the ARU.

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        #1352

        @antipodean said in Super Rugby News:

        @booboo The Brumbies don't make money and they aren't getting crowds. I'd continue the investment in Melbourne and Perth if I was the ARU.

        Agree. No reason why Brumbies can't merge back with Tahs and strengthen Rebels as well.

        Arguments look to be

        Rebels - big market, lots of investment, long term view but currently a crap team
        Force - market still struggling and financially being propped up but the only presence in WA and geographically a good place for breaking up travel to and from SA.
        Brumbies - financially in the shitter, local market hasn't developed except for fair weather fans, not developing enough local players to stop them weakening other teams.
        Tahs and Reds - will never happen

        If the Brumbies were to merge back into the Tahs and the non Sydney players were to disperse back to where they came from or go to Rebels and Force the picture would look balanced in both strength and geography/presence. It's not like the Tahs couldn't play the odd game in Canberra.

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        • CrucialC Crucial

          @antipodean said in Super Rugby News:

          @booboo The Brumbies don't make money and they aren't getting crowds. I'd continue the investment in Melbourne and Perth if I was the ARU.

          Agree. No reason why Brumbies can't merge back with Tahs and strengthen Rebels as well.

          Arguments look to be

          Rebels - big market, lots of investment, long term view but currently a crap team
          Force - market still struggling and financially being propped up but the only presence in WA and geographically a good place for breaking up travel to and from SA.
          Brumbies - financially in the shitter, local market hasn't developed except for fair weather fans, not developing enough local players to stop them weakening other teams.
          Tahs and Reds - will never happen

          If the Brumbies were to merge back into the Tahs and the non Sydney players were to disperse back to where they came from or go to Rebels and Force the picture would look balanced in both strength and geography/presence. It's not like the Tahs couldn't play the odd game in Canberra.

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          antipodean
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          #1353

          @Crucial said in Super Rugby News:

          It's not like the Tahs couldn't play the odd game in Canberra.

          That would be self-defeating. Canberrans hate the Tahs.

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          • antipodeanA antipodean

            @Crucial said in Super Rugby News:

            It's not like the Tahs couldn't play the odd game in Canberra.

            That would be self-defeating. Canberrans hate the Tahs.

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            Crucial
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            #1354

            @antipodean said in Super Rugby News:

            @Crucial said in Super Rugby News:

            It's not like the Tahs couldn't play the odd game in Canberra.

            That would be self-defeating. Canberrans hate the Tahs.

            I know, but it would be fun to see.

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            • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

              Reports doing the rounds that Cheetahs, Kings and one Aussie side to get cut to make it a Super 15.

              http://m.sarugbymag.co.za/?postslug=/blog/details/cheetahs-facing-super-rugby-axe

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              #1355

              @KiwiMurph said in Super Rugby News:

              Reports doing the rounds that Cheetahs, Kings and one Aussie side to get cut to make it a Super 15.

              http://m.sarugbymag.co.za/?postslug=/blog/details/cheetahs-facing-super-rugby-axe

              Am I the only one who gets a "Reclaim your sexual confidence" ad on that SA Rugby Mag website?
              I'm pretty sure it's not my own browsing history to blame (only because this is on my work computer - and all my attempts to reclaim my sexual confidence are done in the privacy of home).
              Has the impotence of the Springboks affected the fanbase?

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                I'd also prefer the Sunwolves to be dropped instead of the Cheetahs. Organise a North Pacific competition with professional Japanese, USA and Canadian teams. Then the Sunwolves would have a good chance of winning games, too. Apart from financial reasons, there is no other excuse for letting them dilute the Super Rugby competition.

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                • StargazerS Stargazer

                  I'd also prefer the Sunwolves to be dropped instead of the Cheetahs. Organise a North Pacific competition with professional Japanese, USA and Canadian teams. Then the Sunwolves would have a good chance of winning games, too. Apart from financial reasons, there is no other excuse for letting them dilute the Super Rugby competition.

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                  @Stargazer said in Super Rugby News:

                  I'd also prefer the Sunwolves to be dropped instead of the Cheetahs. Organise a North Pacific competition with professional Japanese, USA and Canadian teams. Then the Sunwolves would have a good chance of winning games, too. Apart from financial reasons, there is no other excuse for letting them dilute the Super Rugby competition.

                  Maybe have the winner of that comp player the last placed team in the higher comp, and get variety that way?

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                    I would cut the Reds

                    Fuck the Reds

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                    • MajorStokesM Away
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                      I'd go directly backwards and cut the Kings, Jaguares, and Sunwolves.

                      The travel schedule was difficiult beforehand, but I think worked out about right where NZ teams would do a 2 week tour to SA. Now, trying to balance that with a potential trip to Sinagpore/Japan and Argentina - c'mon that's ridiculous.

                      It wasn't broken before, it doesn't need fixing.

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                        #1360

                        I feel like they're going to learn the wrong lessons from the last few years, drop a bunch of teams but keep the same long as fuck season and shitty finals setup around.

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                          KiwiMurph
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                          Sounds like Milner Skudder is out at least 6 weeks with a fractured foot.

                          http://www.newshub.co.nz/home/sport/2017/03/hurricanes-fullback-nehe-milner-skudder-sidelined-for-six-weeks.html

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                            http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/90422620/super-rugby-to-cut-two-teams--report

                            So it appears that chopping three was too easy so only chop two and keep the pools all confused?

                            Glad to hear there is chopping.

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                            • HoorooH Hooroo

                              http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/90422620/super-rugby-to-cut-two-teams--report

                              So it appears that chopping three was too easy so only chop two and keep the pools all confused?

                              Glad to hear there is chopping.

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                              taniwharugby
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #1363

                              @Hooroo probably SARU stomped their feet and threatened to take their rugby teams and go to the NH if they had to drop 2 teams, surprised they will allow one given how hard they pushed for 6.

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                              • HoorooH Hooroo

                                http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/90422620/super-rugby-to-cut-two-teams--report

                                So it appears that chopping three was too easy so only chop two and keep the pools all confused?

                                Glad to hear there is chopping.

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                                antipodean
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                                #1364

                                @Hooroo Hopefully it's the Kings and Brumbies.

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                                  #1365

                                  Apparently, a 16 team draw is much harder logistically than a 15 team draw. I feel sorry for the admins who have to make that draw. Even just thinking about it gives me a head ache.

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                                  • StargazerS Stargazer

                                    Apparently, a 16 team draw is much harder logistically than a 15 team draw. I feel sorry for the admins who have to make that draw. Even just thinking about it gives me a head ache.

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                                    Hooroo
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                                    #1366

                                    @Stargazer said in Super Rugby News:

                                    Apparently, a 16 team draw is much harder logistically than a 15 team draw. I feel sorry for the admins who have to make that draw. Even just thinking about it gives me a head ache.

                                    Nah it will be sweet as 3 fives make....... oh no wait.

                                    It's all cool as we all just have the 5 teams... no no wait. I will get there.

                                    NZ will have 5, Aus 4 and SA 4 with one from Japan and Argentina. That's it! No wait, hang on. I need to complicate this a bit.

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                                      Stargazer
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                                      #1367

                                      http://twitter.com/1NewsSportNZ/status/841472642683039744

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                                      • HoorooH Hooroo

                                        @Stargazer said in Super Rugby News:

                                        Apparently, a 16 team draw is much harder logistically than a 15 team draw. I feel sorry for the admins who have to make that draw. Even just thinking about it gives me a head ache.

                                        Nah it will be sweet as 3 fives make....... oh no wait.

                                        It's all cool as we all just have the 5 teams... no no wait. I will get there.

                                        NZ will have 5, Aus 4 and SA 4 with one from Japan and Argentina. That's it! No wait, hang on. I need to complicate this a bit.

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                                        taniwharugby
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #1368

                                        @Hooroo if we went back to a S12, 5 NZ, 4 SA, 3 Aus and then include the Sunwolves and Jaguares that gives 14, 2 pools, NZ + Jaguares and Sunwolves, and the Aussie & SA, easy as. 🙂

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                                          #1369

                                          What I'm expecting is that they choose a prime number of teams, you know to make it interesting. So 17 teams, 13 teams, or maybe even 11 teams.

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