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  • NepiaN Offline
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    #1539

    I've never liked the home and away and don't want a return to it. I prefer seeing NZ teams play non NZ teams so I have no issues with who to cheer for.

    But, that's just me.

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    • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

      @akan004 Actually the nz derbies are increasing. Currently each nz team plays 6 derbies, from next year it will be 8.

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      @KiwiMurph said in Super Rugby News:

      @akan004 Actually the nz derbies are increasing. Currently each nz team plays 6 derbies, from next year it will be 8.

      Didn't realise that. Makes it even worse. I thought the main gripe of the NZ players was that there were too many high intensity local derbies as it is. So the NZRU decides to bend over and add another couple.

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        there are gonna be plenty of nervy fellas in a few teams in Aus & SA, a few NH teams be looking on expecting to get some bargains as well.

        Although...

        https://thaicastle.co/2017/04/09/sanzaar-drop-nuts-expands-to-super-rugby-64-teams-in-2018/

        SANZAAR Drop Nuts – Expands To Super Rugby 64 Teams In 2018
        Posted on April 9, 2017 by thaicastle1 in Uncategorized // 0 Comments

        After weeks of deliberation about who to cut from Super Rugby SANZAAR has dropped its nuts. Instead of cutting three teams from Super Rugby they have decided to add 46 new franchises in 2018.

        SANZAAR president Jaco MakeMoMoney has told Thai Castle that the decision was relatively easy – “We thought long and hard and didn’t think that cutting teams would solve Super Rugby’s problems, so we were like why don’t we expand further and see if that makes the on-field product stronger.

        From a New Zealand stand point four new franchises have been added which include the Marist Under-12s, Liston College 3rd XV, Wellington Phoenix and an All Blacks Over 75 year old squad.

        NZ Rugby President Steve Tew said he was delighted to add the four new franchises saying that he thought they would add some real depth to New Zealand Rugby for generations to come.

        Wellington Phoenix coach Chris Greenacre told Thai Castle “When we heard the news we were added to Super Rugby we were pretty flattered. It will be hard playing in two professional sports leagues at once but the boys think there soccer skills will come in handy on the rugby field. I mean all they do is kick the ball.”

        The 64 team field has been split into 8 groups of 8 teams with each team playing 128 games in a 17 week span. The top first seeds from each group go to the best of 27 final series. With the remaining teams going into a survivor series were the team that loses the most games will tragically lose a limb at the discretion of SANZAAR officials.

        The new teams added are:

        Marist Under-12s

        Liston College 3rd XV

        Wellingtoin Phoenix

        All Blacks Over 75s

        Antarctica Frozen Peas

        Dargaville Dental Assistants

        Tottenham Hotspur

        Bermuda Triangle Titans

        Wedge Island Warriors

        Compton Stealers

        Donald Trump Wall Builders

        Norwegian No-Shows

        Kolkata Dayriders

        The Beatles

        Cleveland Cavaliers

        London Bridge Free Ballers

        French Frogleg Surprise

        The Paris Croissants

        The Glasgow Facepunches

        The Alice Springs Drymouths

        Queensland Bogans

        Tokyo Toyotas

        China Investor Squad

        Killa Bees

        Canada Chocalate Brownies

        Mexican Eses

        Zimbabwe Inflation

        North Korea Naughty Boys

        Pyongang Punishment

        Pacific Ocean Oceans

        Taj Mahal Revonators

        The Brexits

        The Barcelonas Ballsacks

        The Scunthorpe Scotos

        Canterbury Cum Stains

        Georgia Goochs

        North Pole Pole dancers

        Santas Little Helpers

        Colombia Narcos

        American Idol Winners Selection

        Ryan Seacrest Squad

        The Carb-dashians

        The Andrew Schultz’s

        The Kelekefus

        The Football Kings

        Auckland Blues 2

        Auckland Pooze

        Dubai Oillers

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        • jeggaJ Offline
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          There's going to be some busy agents around the place, lots of journeymen heading north too I suspect.

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          • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

            @akan004 Actually the nz derbies are increasing. Currently each nz team plays 6 derbies, from next year it will be 8.

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            @KiwiMurph said in Super Rugby News:

            @akan004 Actually the nz derbies are increasing. Currently each nz team plays 6 derbies, from next year it will be 8.

            I like the NZ derbies. Also means less travel for our players.

            I get the appeal of round robin, but from a selfish point of view I'll take more NZ derbies. It also means the games against the other conferences have some novelty appeal, like the Chiefs vs Stormers yesterday.

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            • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

              @Damo although our conference being the toughest is better for our rugby long term though

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              @taniwharugby said in Super Rugby News:

              @Damo although our conference being the toughest is better for our rugby long term though

              Possibly in the medium term, but what is best for our long term future is the continued viability of Super Rugby. Having so many dud teams from SA and Aus was slowly killing Super Rugby.

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              • DamoD Damo

                @taniwharugby said in Super Rugby News:

                @Damo although our conference being the toughest is better for our rugby long term though

                Possibly in the medium term, but what is best for our long term future is the continued viability of Super Rugby. Having so many dud teams from SA and Aus was slowly killing Super Rugby.

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                Crash
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                #1545

                @Damo Agree in the main - although (I as a dyed in the wool rugby supporter/diehard) - will watch all the SR games I can, I understand not everyone is the same, and admittedly some of the lop-sided results are not to everyone's palate and I can see why people might lose interest.

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                  #1546

                  I used to try and watch all games involving NZ teams ,

                  and now from an entertainment angle , its slowly evolved into trying to watch all NZ derbies

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                    #1547

                    Jamie Pandaram in the Tele here is naming Force, Kings, and Cheetahs as the victims.

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                      The Force decision kind of makes sense - that time zone is a bit of a dead spot, and the complaint about the travel from Perth is valid.

                      The fucking bullshit they had with sponsors in the early years, as well as the issues with attracting talent so far away from families - also valid.

                      Recruiting South Africans, to the point where some people were sniggering about "Perthfontein" shows that the whole development argument is a bit of a dud.

                      I found Paul Cully's tweet interesting:

                      https://twitter.com/whiskeycully/status/850986543250513921

                      There will be some circling for players, but not coaches - rookies at all franchises.

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                        Ffs. The biggest problem with super rugby isn't that there are a couple of shit teams. It's the stupid conference system and fucked up finals format where teams don't play the same opposition yet are put into a rankings table as if they do, then come finals time a team can have less points than others but gets a home final.

                        The new comp will be just as much of a joke. What is the point of over half the teams making the finals?
                        If you have to have conferences then keep them totally seperate and then have a knock out comp with the top 2 from each conference for the champions cup.

                        I fully expect more shit teams to be added and formats to change in another two years.

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                        • Billy TellB Billy Tell

                          @KiwiMurph said in Super Rugby News:

                          @akan004 Actually the nz derbies are increasing. Currently each nz team plays 6 derbies, from next year it will be 8.

                          I like the NZ derbies. Also means less travel for our players.

                          I get the appeal of round robin, but from a selfish point of view I'll take more NZ derbies. It also means the games against the other conferences have some novelty appeal, like the Chiefs vs Stormers yesterday.

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                          @Billy-Tell said in Super Rugby News:

                          @KiwiMurph said in Super Rugby News:

                          @akan004 Actually the nz derbies are increasing. Currently each nz team plays 6 derbies, from next year it will be 8.

                          I like the NZ derbies. Also means less travel for our players.

                          I get the appeal of round robin, but from a selfish point of view I'll take more NZ derbies. It also means the games against the other conferences have some novelty appeal, like the Chiefs vs Stormers yesterday.

                          From what I remember, the last time we had 8 derbies a year the players didn't like them because they were the most intense matches on the calendar and as a result, led to more injuries.

                          Increasing the local derbies makes it a shitload harder for NZ teams to make the final six, so I'm not a fan at all. Last year, where we had four teams in the final six, will probably never happen in the new structure.

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                          • pukunuiP pukunui

                            Ffs. The biggest problem with super rugby isn't that there are a couple of shit teams. It's the stupid conference system and fucked up finals format where teams don't play the same opposition yet are put into a rankings table as if they do, then come finals time a team can have less points than others but gets a home final.

                            The new comp will be just as much of a joke. What is the point of over half the teams making the finals?
                            If you have to have conferences then keep them totally seperate and then have a knock out comp with the top 2 from each conference for the champions cup.

                            I fully expect more shit teams to be added and formats to change in another two years.

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                            #1551

                            @pukunui said in Super Rugby News:

                            Ffs. The biggest problem with super rugby isn't that there are a couple of shit teams. It's the stupid conference system and fucked up finals format where teams don't play the same opposition yet are put into a rankings table as if they do, then come finals time a team can have less points than others but gets a home final.

                            The new comp will be just as much of a joke. What is the point of over half the teams making the finals?
                            If you have to have conferences then keep them totally seperate and then have a knock out comp with the top 2 from each conference for the champions cup.

                            I fully expect more shit teams to be added and formats to change in another two years.

                            Give that man a cold beer!!:clap_tone5: :clap_tone5: That in a nutshell is exactly what is wrong with SR - the bloody format ie conference system is just crazy. Whatever happened to home and away FFS, something players and fans can understand.

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                              The bean counters have truly lost their shit. The market is tapped out

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                              • pukunuiP pukunui

                                Ffs. The biggest problem with super rugby isn't that there are a couple of shit teams. It's the stupid conference system and fucked up finals format where teams don't play the same opposition yet are put into a rankings table as if they do, then come finals time a team can have less points than others but gets a home final.

                                The new comp will be just as much of a joke. What is the point of over half the teams making the finals?
                                If you have to have conferences then keep them totally seperate and then have a knock out comp with the top 2 from each conference for the champions cup.

                                I fully expect more shit teams to be added and formats to change in another two years.

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                                @pukunui said in Super Rugby News:

                                Ffs. The biggest problem with super rugby isn't that there are a couple of shit teams. It's the stupid conference system and fucked up finals format where teams don't play the same opposition yet are put into a rankings table as if they do, then come finals time a team can have less points than others but gets a home final.

                                The new comp will be just as much of a joke. What is the point of over half the teams making the finals?
                                If you have to have conferences then keep them totally seperate and then have a knock out comp with the top 2 from each conference for the champions cup.

                                I fully expect more shit teams to be added and formats to change in another two years.

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                                  #1554

                                  Beauden Barrett will front a Sanzaar judiciary on Monday night for his double yellow card effort against the Waratahs. Sanzaar's foul play review committee looked at the incidents on Sunday night and decided there was a case to answer for World Rugby's 2016 player of the year. The judicial committee for the video conference hearing will be Adam Casselden SC (Chairman), Mike Mika and De Wet Barry.


                                  This will be a test case in the event another player also receives 2 YCs in the future.

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                                    Beauden Barrett will front a Sanzaar judiciary on Monday night for his double yellow card effort against the Waratahs. Sanzaar's foul play review committee looked at the incidents on Sunday night and decided there was a case to answer for World Rugby's 2016 player of the year. The judicial committee for the video conference hearing will be Adam Casselden SC (Chairman), Mike Mika and De Wet Barry.


                                    This will be a test case in the event another player also receives 2 YCs in the future.

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                                    #1555

                                    @Bovidae said in Super Rugby News:

                                    Beauden Barrett will front a Sanzaar judiciary on Monday night for his double yellow card effort against the Waratahs. Sanzaar's foul play review committee looked at the incidents on Sunday night and decided there was a case to answer for World Rugby's 2016 player of the year. The judicial committee for the video conference hearing will be Adam Casselden SC (Chairman), Mike Mika and De Wet Barry.


                                    This will be a test case in the event another player also receives 2 YCs in the future.

                                    Surely no case to answer. No foul play should mean no sanction. I can't even imagine a scenario where a professional foul would warrant a ban. Maybe the "Hand of Back"? Even that's pushing it.

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                                    • pukunuiP pukunui

                                      Ffs. The biggest problem with super rugby isn't that there are a couple of shit teams. It's the stupid conference system and fucked up finals format where teams don't play the same opposition yet are put into a rankings table as if they do, then come finals time a team can have less points than others but gets a home final.

                                      The new comp will be just as much of a joke. What is the point of over half the teams making the finals?
                                      If you have to have conferences then keep them totally seperate and then have a knock out comp with the top 2 from each conference for the champions cup.

                                      I fully expect more shit teams to be added and formats to change in another two years.

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                                      #1556

                                      @pukunui said in Super Rugby News:

                                      Ffs. The biggest problem with super rugby isn't that there are a couple of shit teams. It's the stupid conference system and fucked up finals format where teams don't play the same opposition yet are put into a rankings table as if they do, then come finals time a team can have less points than others but gets a home final.

                                      The new comp will be just as much of a joke. What is the point of over half the teams making the finals?
                                      If you have to have conferences then keep them totally seperate and then have a knock out comp with the top 2 from each conference for the champions cup.

                                      I fully expect more shit teams to be added and formats to change in another two years.

                                      It wasn't broke when it was Super 12. Why did the fisheads ( great description btw Norm Hewitt ) feel the need to fix it? I do understand expansion and adding a couple of teams but the convoluted and confusing nature of the competition means it has alienated a shitload of fans which is typified by attendances at games.

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                                      • F Frye

                                        @Bovidae said in Super Rugby News:

                                        Beauden Barrett will front a Sanzaar judiciary on Monday night for his double yellow card effort against the Waratahs. Sanzaar's foul play review committee looked at the incidents on Sunday night and decided there was a case to answer for World Rugby's 2016 player of the year. The judicial committee for the video conference hearing will be Adam Casselden SC (Chairman), Mike Mika and De Wet Barry.


                                        This will be a test case in the event another player also receives 2 YCs in the future.

                                        Surely no case to answer. No foul play should mean no sanction. I can't even imagine a scenario where a professional foul would warrant a ban. Maybe the "Hand of Back"? Even that's pushing it.

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                                        @Frye Barrett probably won't get any ban but you never know with the judiciary. It's not foul play but could be labelled repeated infringement. As I said, the outcome and summary of the hearing will be of interest as a precedent is set.

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                                        • MN5M MN5

                                          @pukunui said in Super Rugby News:

                                          Ffs. The biggest problem with super rugby isn't that there are a couple of shit teams. It's the stupid conference system and fucked up finals format where teams don't play the same opposition yet are put into a rankings table as if they do, then come finals time a team can have less points than others but gets a home final.

                                          The new comp will be just as much of a joke. What is the point of over half the teams making the finals?
                                          If you have to have conferences then keep them totally seperate and then have a knock out comp with the top 2 from each conference for the champions cup.

                                          I fully expect more shit teams to be added and formats to change in another two years.

                                          It wasn't broke when it was Super 12. Why did the fisheads ( great description btw Norm Hewitt ) feel the need to fix it? I do understand expansion and adding a couple of teams but the convoluted and confusing nature of the competition means it has alienated a shitload of fans which is typified by attendances at games.

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                                          Unco
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                                          The people making the decisions at Sanzaar really do need to be taken out back and shot. Their idiotic decisions have been leeching the life out of the comp ever since the move to the Super 14. Either have a proper conference system or a proper round robin system, this in-between bullshit (and 8 teams making the finals!) is a mess.

                                          As for BB, I think one week would be fair. If the yellow cards were for two different infringements, that'd be one thing, but the same exact infringement twice in the same game? That's just fucking dumb.

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