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@Number-10 said in Super Rugby News: Injuries:
@Steven-Harris said in Super Rugby News: Injuries:
@Tim ,I suspect there has'nt been to much leaked in and around Super Rugby Squads,because most of the spots in the NZ teams are already filled,apart from a few articles over the last month,pointing out certain players that have either recommitted or in the case some of the teams like the Blues who have signed Stephen Perofeta and Micheal Collins in recent times,i would imagine most teams have there rosters filled up around 98%,from what i understand,there is pool of players that go into a draft over the next couple of days before the teams are named this Wednesday,so i would imagine there will be some players in the Blues region that i support that i will be hoping they pull a contract.
Got my fingers crossed for guys like,Chris Vui and Micheal Collins from Harbour and Matt Matich from Northland,just on pure form alone,these guys have been outstanding,and i will be staggered if the dont recieve contracts.
Breakdown released a list of players who had'nt recieved contracts as of Wednesday gone
Hoani Matenga
Jack Ram
Matt McGahan
Lolagi Visinia
Tevita Kolomatangi
Tim Boys
Ross Geldenhuys
Micheal Little
Siefred Fisi'hoi
Tony Lambourn
Greg Pleasants Tate
Teihorangi WaldrenFrom that list, Micheal Little and Greg Pleasants Tate would be really unlucky in my opinion
I have no issues with the blues not contracting Lolagi Visinia,when he was at Kelston Boys High,he was supposed to be the best thing since sliced bread,so everybody who was involved with Auckland rugby was telling me,but to be brutal,he has never forfilled his potential,lacks vision.and the ability to do the right thing at the right time,always goes into contact,as opposed to looking to link with his outsides.
A prime example was Aucklands recent game against Taranaki,fielded a ball just outside his own 22,and then kicked the ball directly into touch with the oncoming Taranaki players still a good 30 metres away,it gifted taranaki field position at such key stage of the game,if your not making good decisions at Mitre 10 Cup level,it is"nt gonna get any better at super level.My only real bug bear,when it comes to super rugby selection,from what i undersatnd,Dalton Papalii an openside flanker for the NZ under 20 team will be selected for the Blues,similar to the Bodie Barret situation in the All Blacks,apprentice type role.i can under stand why franchises do this,to keep their young talent in the franchise,but what happens to the no7 that slugs his guts out for one of the 3 unions that make up the franchise,Matt Matich,whilst he played most of his rugby at no 8 for Northland,an excellnt no7,as is North Harbour no7 Connor Collet who has been oustanding all season.
Be intersted to get some thoughts from you all out there.?Tony Lamborn has, apparently, not been re-signed by the Hurricanes. He only had the one-year contract for 2016.
He was on a WTG in 2016, wasn't he? Although he has said before the June series (when he was announced as a squad member of the USA Eagles) that he wanted to stay with the Canes and Magpies for the next years to come, I hope this doesn't mean that he'll go overseas, more specifically, sign with one of the PRO USA teams. I blame those damned trial laws that didn't suit his game at all ...
@Stargazer said in Super Rugby News: Injuries:
@Number-10 said in Super Rugby News: Injuries:
@Steven-Harris said in Super Rugby News: Injuries:
@Tim ,I suspect there has'nt been to much leaked in and around Super Rugby Squads,because most of the spots in the NZ teams are already filled,apart from a few articles over the last month,pointing out certain players that have either recommitted or in the case some of the teams like the Blues who have signed Stephen Perofeta and Micheal Collins in recent times,i would imagine most teams have there rosters filled up around 98%,from what i understand,there is pool of players that go into a draft over the next couple of days before the teams are named this Wednesday,so i would imagine there will be some players in the Blues region that i support that i will be hoping they pull a contract.
Got my fingers crossed for guys like,Chris Vui and Micheal Collins from Harbour and Matt Matich from Northland,just on pure form alone,these guys have been outstanding,and i will be staggered if the dont recieve contracts.
Breakdown released a list of players who had'nt recieved contracts as of Wednesday gone
Hoani Matenga
Jack Ram
Matt McGahan
Lolagi Visinia
Tevita Kolomatangi
Tim Boys
Ross Geldenhuys
Micheal Little
Siefred Fisi'hoi
Tony Lambourn
Greg Pleasants Tate
Teihorangi WaldrenFrom that list, Micheal Little and Greg Pleasants Tate would be really unlucky in my opinion
I have no issues with the blues not contracting Lolagi Visinia,when he was at Kelston Boys High,he was supposed to be the best thing since sliced bread,so everybody who was involved with Auckland rugby was telling me,but to be brutal,he has never forfilled his potential,lacks vision.and the ability to do the right thing at the right time,always goes into contact,as opposed to looking to link with his outsides.
A prime example was Aucklands recent game against Taranaki,fielded a ball just outside his own 22,and then kicked the ball directly into touch with the oncoming Taranaki players still a good 30 metres away,it gifted taranaki field position at such key stage of the game,if your not making good decisions at Mitre 10 Cup level,it is"nt gonna get any better at super level.My only real bug bear,when it comes to super rugby selection,from what i undersatnd,Dalton Papalii an openside flanker for the NZ under 20 team will be selected for the Blues,similar to the Bodie Barret situation in the All Blacks,apprentice type role.i can under stand why franchises do this,to keep their young talent in the franchise,but what happens to the no7 that slugs his guts out for one of the 3 unions that make up the franchise,Matt Matich,whilst he played most of his rugby at no 8 for Northland,an excellnt no7,as is North Harbour no7 Connor Collet who has been oustanding all season.
Be intersted to get some thoughts from you all out there.?Tony Lamborn has, apparently, not been re-signed by the Hurricanes. He only had the one-year contract for 2016.
He was on a WTG in 2016, wasn't he? Although he has said before the June series (when he was announced as a squad member of the USA Eagles) that he wanted to stay with the Canes and Magpies for the next years to come, I hope this doesn't mean that he'll go overseas, more specifically, sign with one of the PRO USA teams. I blame those damned trial laws that didn't suit his game at all ...
So he's not NZ eligible? No loss then
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Australian prop Guy Millar to join Highlanders for the 2017 Super Rugby season
@Daffy-Jaffy said in Super Rugby News: Injuries:
Australian prop Guy Millar to join Highlanders for the 2017 Super Rugby season
Really? Surely there are 25 props across NZ?
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2017 Chiefs squad:
PROP:
Nepo Laulala (Counties Manukau)
Atu Moli (Waikato)
Siegfried Fisi’ihoi (Bay of Plenty)
Mitchell Graham (Taranaki)
Kane Hames ( Ta$man)
Sosefo Kautai (Waikato)HOOKER:
Hika Elliot (Counties Manukau)
Nathan Harris (Bay of Plenty)
Liam Polwart (Bay of Plenty)LOCK:
Brodie Retallick (Hawkes Bay)
Dominic Bird (Canterbury)
Michael Allardice (Hawkes Bay)
James Tucker (Waikato)LOOSE FORWARD:
Taleni Seu (Auckland)
Liam Messam
Mitchell Brown (Taranaki)
Sam Cane (Bay of Plenty)
Mitchell Karpik (Bay of Plenty)
Lachlan Boshier (Taranaki)
Tom Sanders (Canterbury)
Michael LeitchHALFBACK:
Tawera Kerr-Barlow (Waikato)
Brad Weber (Hawkes Bay)
Finlay Christie ( Ta$man)FIRST FIVE EIGHTH:
Aaron Cruden (Manawatu)
Stephen Donald (Waikato)FIRST FIVE EIGHTH / OUTSIDE BACK:
Damian McKenzie (Waikato)MIDFIELD:
Charlie Ngatai (Taranaki)
Anton Lienert-Brown (Waikato)
Johnny Fa’auli (Taranaki)MIDFIELD / OUTSIDE BACK:
Tim Nanai-Williams
Solomon Alaimalo (Northland)OUTSIDE BACK:
Sam McNicol (Hawkes Bay)
James Lowe ( Ta$man)
Chase Tiatia (Bay of Plenty)
Toni Pulu (Counties Manukau)
Glen Fisiiahi (Counties Manukau)
Shaun Stevenson (Waikato)http://www.chiefs.co.nz/news/news/latest-news/268-continuity-is-key-in-2017-gallagher-chiefs-squad
For who prefers a graphic:
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The Blues squad is:
Backs: Michael Collins (Otago), Matt Duffie (North Harbour), TJ Faiane (Auckland), Billy Guyton ( Ta$man), Rieko Ioane (Auckland), Matt Vaega (North Harbour), George Moala (Auckland), Melani Nanai (Auckland), Sam Nock (Northland), Declan O’Donnell (Taranaki), Stephen Perofeta (Taranaki), Augustine Pulu (Counties Manukau), Rene Ranger (North Harbour), Jordon Trainor (Waikato), Ihaia West (Hawkes Bay), Sonny Bill Williams (Counties Manukau), Piers Francis (Counties Manukau).
Forwards: Gerard Cowley-Tuioti (North Harbour), Epalahame Faiva (Waikato), Charlie Faumuina (Auckland), Blake Gibson (Auckland), Josh Goodhue (Northland), Alex Hodgman (Canterbury), Akira Ioane (Auckland), Jerome Kaino (Auckland), Steven Luatua (Auckland), Sione Mafileo (North Harbour), Pauliasi Manu (Counties Manukau), Matt Moulds (Northland), Brandon Nansen (North Harbour), James Parsons (North Harbour), Sam Prattley (Auckland), Kara Pryor (Northland), Scott Scrafton (Auckland), Murphy Taramai (North Harbour), Patrick Tuipulotu (Auckland), Jimmy Tupou (Counties Manukau), Ofa Tu’ungafasi (Auckland),
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2017 Highlanders
Forwards
Liam Coltman, Ash Dixon, Greg Pleasants-Tate, Daniel Lienert-Brown, Siosuia Halanukonuka, Guy Millar*, Siate Tokolahi*, Aki Seiuli, Craig Millar, Tom Franklin, Joe Wheeler, Alex Ainley, Josh Dickson*, Jackson Hemopo, Luke Whitelock, Liam Squire, James Lentjes, Gareth Evans, Dan Pryor, Shane Christie, Elliot DixonBacks
Aaron Smith, Kayne Hammington*, Josh Renton, Lima Sopoaga, Hayden Parker, Fletcher Smith, Rob Thompson, Patelesio Tomkinson, Teihorangi Walden, Richard Buckman, Matt Faddes, Waisake Naholo, Malakai Fekitoa, Patrick Osborne, Tevita Li*, Jason Emery , Ben Smith*Debut season for Highlanders in 2017
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So we have all teams in this thread:
CRUSADERS SQUAD
PROPS
Michael Alaalatoa
Wyatt Crockett
Oliver Jager
Joe Moody
Tim Perry
Owen FranksHOOKERS
Ben Funnell
Andrew Makalio
Codie TaylorLOCKS
Scott Barrett
Luke Romano
Quinten Strange
Sam Whitelock
LOOSE FORWARDS
Heiden Bedwell-Curtis
Jed Brown
Mitchell Dunshea
Kieran Read
Pete Samu
Jordan Taufua
Matt ToddHALFBACKS
Mitchell Drummond
Leon Fukofuka
Bryn HallFIRST FIVE-EIGHTHS
Tim Bateman
Marty McKenzie
Richie Mo'ungaMIDFIELD BACKS
Ryan Crotty
Jack Goodhue
David Havili
Seta Tamanivalu
Sean WainuiOUTSIDE BACKS
George Bridge
Israel Dagg
Sione Fifita
Mitchell Hunt
Digby Ioane
Jone Macilai
Manasa Mataelehttp://crusaders.co.nz/news/1026-2017-heralds-new-era-for-bnz-crusaders
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The 2017 Hurricanes Investec Super Rugby squad is:
FORWARDS (22): Props (6): Chris Eves (Manawatu), Reggie Goodes (Wellington), Ben May (Hawke's Bay), Jeffery Toomaga-Allen (Wellington), Loni Uhila (Waikato), Mike Kainga (Taranaki). Hookers (3): Dane Coles (Wellington) (c), Leni Apisai (Wellington), Ricky Riccitelli (Hawke's Bay). Locks (5): Mark Abbott (Hawke's Bay), James Broadhurst (Taranaki), Geoffrey Cridge (Hawke's Bay), Michael Fatialofa, (Auckland), Sam Lousi (Wellington) *. Loose forwards: (8) Callum Gibbins (Manawatu), Vaea Fifita (Wellington), Reed Prinsep (Canterbury) *, Hugh Renton (Hawke's Bay), Ardie Savea (Wellington), Brad Shields (Wellington), Blade Thomson (Taranaki), Toa Halafihi (Taranaki) **. BACKS (16): Halfbacks (3): TJ Perenara (Wellington), Te Toiroa Tahuiorangi (Taranaki), Kylem O'Donnell (Taranaki) *. First five-eighth: (2) Beauden Barrett (Taranaki), Otere Black (Manawatu). Midfield: (4) Vince Aso (Auckland), Ngani Laumape (Manawatu), Matt Proctor (Wellington), Pita Ahki (North Harbour), Wes Goosen (Wellington). Outside backs (6): Cory Jane (Wellington), Julian Savea (Wellington), Ben Lam (Wellington) *, Nehe Milner-Skudder (Manawatu), Peter Umaga-Jensen (Wellington) **. Utility back: (1) Jordie Barrett ** (Canterbury).
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Im pretty certain the above squads include Wider Training Group players.
Of course players get brought in from outside of these squads during the season due to injury.
Broadhurst named in the Canes - interesting - hopefully his concussion woes are behind him.
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So now the big question is: are all these players on full contracts? In other words, have they omitted WTG players? Is there still a possibility that players, who missed out (Jonah Lowe, for example), will get a chance somewhere?
@Stargazer Jonah Lowe,visinia,waa and little are the biggest shocks in my opinion not to make any squads plus Caleb makene
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So, who missed out? Starting from last year's players:
Hoani Matenga
Jack Ram
Matt McGahan
Lolagi Visinia
Tevita Kolomatangi
Tim Boys
Ross Geldenhuys
Micheal Little
Tony Lambourn
Namatahi Waa
Chris Vui
Jonah Lowe
Ereatara Enari
Bryn Gatland
Sam Vaka
Cardiff Vaega
Joe Tupe
Matt Matich
Gafatasi Su’a
Chris SmylieNZ Maori:
Jacob Skeen
Joe Royal
Leighton Price
Marcel Renata
Whetu DouglasIn Australia:
Jackson Garden-Bachop
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NZ TAB odds for next year.
1 Hurricanes 4.50
2 Chiefs 5.00
3 Crusaders 5.50
4 Highlanders 5.50
5 Lions 7.50
6 Brumbies 9.00
7 Stormers 12.00
8 Sharks 15.00
9 Waratahs 18.00
10 Blues 21.00
11 Bulls 26.00
12 Jaguares 51.00
13 Reds 61.00
14 Cheetahs 61.00
15 Rebels 61.00
16 Force 151.00
17 Sunwolves 251.00
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So, who missed out? Starting from last year's players:
Hoani Matenga
Jack Ram
Matt McGahan
Lolagi Visinia
Tevita Kolomatangi
Tim Boys
Ross Geldenhuys
Micheal Little
Tony Lambourn
Namatahi Waa
Chris Vui
Jonah Lowe
Ereatara Enari
Bryn Gatland
Sam Vaka
Cardiff Vaega
Joe Tupe
Matt Matich
Gafatasi Su’a
Chris SmylieNZ Maori:
Jacob Skeen
Joe Royal
Leighton Price
Marcel Renata
Whetu DouglasIn Australia:
Jackson Garden-Bachop
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@KiwiMurph Cheers. Will edit.
