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  • Daffy JaffyD Offline
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    Daffy Jaffy
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    The 2017 Hurricanes Investec Super Rugby squad is:

    FORWARDS (22): Props (6): Chris Eves (Manawatu), Reggie Goodes (Wellington), Ben May (Hawke's Bay), Jeffery Toomaga-Allen (Wellington), Loni Uhila (Waikato), Mike Kainga (Taranaki). Hookers (3): Dane Coles (Wellington) (c), Leni Apisai (Wellington), Ricky Riccitelli (Hawke's Bay). Locks (5): Mark Abbott (Hawke's Bay), James Broadhurst (Taranaki), Geoffrey Cridge (Hawke's Bay), Michael Fatialofa, (Auckland), Sam Lousi (Wellington) *. Loose forwards: (8) Callum Gibbins (Manawatu), Vaea Fifita (Wellington), Reed Prinsep (Canterbury) *, Hugh Renton (Hawke's Bay), Ardie Savea (Wellington), Brad Shields (Wellington), Blade Thomson (Taranaki), Toa Halafihi (Taranaki) **. BACKS (16): Halfbacks (3): TJ Perenara (Wellington), Te Toiroa Tahuiorangi (Taranaki), Kylem O'Donnell (Taranaki) *. First five-eighth: (2) Beauden Barrett (Taranaki), Otere Black (Manawatu). Midfield: (4) Vince Aso (Auckland), Ngani Laumape (Manawatu), Matt Proctor (Wellington), Pita Ahki (North Harbour), Wes Goosen (Wellington). Outside backs (6): Cory Jane (Wellington), Julian Savea (Wellington), Ben Lam (Wellington) *, Nehe Milner-Skudder (Manawatu), Peter Umaga-Jensen (Wellington) **. Utility back: (1) Jordie Barrett ** (Canterbury).

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    • StargazerS Offline
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      #844

      So now the big question is: are all these players on full contracts? In other words, have they omitted WTG players? Is there still a possibility that players, who missed out (Jonah Lowe, for example), will get a chance somewhere?

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      • KiwiMurphK Offline
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        KiwiMurph
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        #845

        Im pretty certain the above squads include Wider Training Group players.

        Of course players get brought in from outside of these squads during the season due to injury.

        Broadhurst named in the Canes - interesting - hopefully his concussion woes are behind him.

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        • StargazerS Stargazer

          So now the big question is: are all these players on full contracts? In other words, have they omitted WTG players? Is there still a possibility that players, who missed out (Jonah Lowe, for example), will get a chance somewhere?

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          Whites72
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          #846

          @Stargazer Jonah Lowe,visinia,waa and little are the biggest shocks in my opinion not to make any squads plus Caleb makene

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          • TimT Away
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            Tim
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            #847

            The Blues squad has 38 players, so it'd have to include the WTG players too.

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            • TimT Away
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              Tim
              wrote on last edited by Tim
              #848

              So, who missed out? Starting from last year's players:

              Hoani Matenga
              Jack Ram
              Matt McGahan
              Lolagi Visinia
              Tevita Kolomatangi
              Tim Boys
              Ross Geldenhuys
              Micheal Little
              Tony Lambourn
              Namatahi Waa


              Chris Vui
              Jonah Lowe
              Ereatara Enari
              Bryn Gatland
              Sam Vaka
              Cardiff Vaega
              Joe Tupe
              Matt Matich
              Gafatasi Su’a
              Chris Smylie

              NZ Maori:

              Jacob Skeen
              Joe Royal
              Leighton Price
              Marcel Renata
              Whetu Douglas

              In Australia:

              Jackson Garden-Bachop
              Cullum Retallick

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              • TimT Away
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                Tim
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                #849

                NZ TAB odds for next year.

                1 Hurricanes 4.50
                2 Chiefs 5.00
                3 Crusaders 5.50
                4 Highlanders 5.50
                5 Lions 7.50
                6 Brumbies 9.00
                7 Stormers 12.00
                8 Sharks 15.00
                9 Waratahs 18.00
                10 Blues 21.00
                11 Bulls 26.00
                12 Jaguares 51.00
                13 Reds 61.00
                14 Cheetahs 61.00
                15 Rebels 61.00
                16 Force 151.00
                17 Sunwolves 251.00
                18 Kings 251.00

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                • TimT Tim

                  So, who missed out? Starting from last year's players:

                  Hoani Matenga
                  Jack Ram
                  Matt McGahan
                  Lolagi Visinia
                  Tevita Kolomatangi
                  Tim Boys
                  Ross Geldenhuys
                  Micheal Little
                  Tony Lambourn
                  Namatahi Waa


                  Chris Vui
                  Jonah Lowe
                  Ereatara Enari
                  Bryn Gatland
                  Sam Vaka
                  Cardiff Vaega
                  Joe Tupe
                  Matt Matich
                  Gafatasi Su’a
                  Chris Smylie

                  NZ Maori:

                  Jacob Skeen
                  Joe Royal
                  Leighton Price
                  Marcel Renata
                  Whetu Douglas

                  In Australia:

                  Jackson Garden-Bachop
                  Cullum Retallick

                  KiwiMurphK Offline
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                  KiwiMurph
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                  #850

                  @Tim Walden is in the Highlanders I think.

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                  • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                    @Tim Walden is in the Highlanders I think.

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                    Tim
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                    #851

                    @KiwiMurph Cheers. Will edit.

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                    • TimT Away
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                      Tim
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                      #852

                      Would've thought Joe Tupe would be an attractive option off the bench?

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                      • TimT Away
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                        Tim
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                        #853

                        Centrebet Odds:

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                        • Chris B.C Offline
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                          Chris B.
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                          All the squads appear to have 38 players, so I'd guess WTG is largely a thing of the past.

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                            #855

                            Anyone know when the development squads are announced?

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                              Stargazer
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                              @Tim Definitely on a Thursday ...... but don't know which one.

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                                michaelmac
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                                #857

                                Here's the breakdown by province based on 2016 allegiances

                                Canterbury (27)
                                Alex Hodgman (Blues); Dominic Bird, Tom Sanders (Chiefs); Scott Barrett, George Bridge, Jed Brown, Wyatt Crockett, Ryan Crotty, Mitchell Drummond, Mitchell Dunshea, Owen Franks, Ben Funnell, Jack Goodhue, Oliver Jager, Richie Mo'unga, Joe Moody, Kieran Read, Luke Romano, Codie Taylor, Matt Todd, Sam Whitelock (Crusaders); Daniel Lienert-Brown, Rob Thompson, Siate Tokolahi, Luke Whitelock (Highlanders); Jordie Barrett, Reed Prinsep (Hurricanes)

                                Auckland (20)
                                TJ Faiane, Charlie Faumaina, Blake Gibson, Akira Ioane, Rieko Ioane, Jerome Kaino, Steven Luatua, George Moala, Melani Nanai, Sam Prattley, Scott Scrafton, Patrick Tuipulotu, Ofa Tu'ungafasi (Blues); Taleni Seu (Chiefs); Leon Fukofuka (Crusaders); Malakai Fekitoa, Greg Pleasants-Tate (Highlanders); Vince Aso, Michael Fatialofa, Ben Lam (Hurricanes)

                                Taranaki (19)
                                Declan O'Donnell, Stephen Perofeta (Blues); Mitchell Brown, Lachlan Boshier, Johnny Fa'auli, Mitchell Graham, Charlie Ngatai (Chiefs); Manasa Mataele, Marty McKenzie, Seta Tamanivalu, Sean Wainui (Crusaders); Waisake Naholo (Highlanders); Beauden Barrett, James Broadhurst, Toa Halafihi, Mike Kainga, Kylem O'Donnell, Te Toiroa Tahuiorangi, Blade Thomson (Hurricanes)

                                Otago (14)
                                Michael Collins (Blues); Liam Coltman, Josh Dickson, Matt Faddes, Tom Franklin, James Lentjes, Craig Millar, Hayden Parker, Josh Renton, Aki Seiuli, Ben Smith, Fletcher Smith, Patelesio Tomkinson, Teihorangi Walden (Highlanders)

                                Ta$man (14)
                                Billy Guyton (Blues); Finlay Christie, Kane Hames, James Lowe (Chiefs); David Havili, Mitchell Hunt, Andrew Makalio, Tim Perry, Pete Samu, Quinten Strange (Crusaders); Alex Ainley, Shane Christie, Siosula Halanukonuka, Liam Squire (Highlanders)

                                Hawkes Bay (13)
                                Ihaia West (Blues); Michael Allardice, Sam McNicol, Brodie Retallick, Brad Weber (Chiefs); Israel Dagg (Crusaders); Ash Dixon, Gareth Evans (Highlanders); Mark Abbott, Geoffey Cridge, Ben May, Hugh Renton, Ricky Riccitelli (Hurricanes)

                                Wellington (13)
                                Leni Apisai, Dane Coles, Vaea Fifita, Reggie Goodes, Wes Goosen, Sam Lousi, TJ Perenara, Matt Proctor, Ardie Savea, Julian Savea, Brad Shields, Jeffery Toomaga-Allen, Peter Umaga-Jensen (Hurricanes)

                                Manawatu (12)
                                Aaron Cruden (Chiefs); Michael Alaalatoa, Heiden Bedwell-Curtis (Crusaders); Jackson Hemopo (Highlanders); Kayne Hammington, Jason Emery, Aaron Smith (Highlanders); Otere Black, Chris Eves, Callum Gibbins, Ngani Laumape, Nehe Milner-Skudder (Hurricanes)

                                Counties Manukau (11)
                                Piers Francis, Pauliasi Manu, Augustine Pulu, Jimmy Tupou, Sonny Bill Williams (Blues); Hikawera Elliot, Glen Fisiiahi, Nepo Laulala, Toni Pulu (Chiefs); Sione Fifita, Jordan Taufua (Crusaders)

                                North Harbour (11)
                                Gerard Cowley-Tuioti, Matt Duffie, Sione Mafileo, Brandon Nansen, James Parsons, Rene Ranger, Murphy Taramai, Matt Vaega (Blues); Bryn Hall (Crusaders); Tevita Li (Highlanders); Pita Ahki (Hurricanes)

                                Waikato (11)
                                Epalahame Faiva, Jordon Trainor (Blues); Stephen Donald, Sosefo Kautai, Tawera Kerr-Barlow, Anton Lienert-Brown, Damian McKenzie, Atunaisa Moli, Shaun Stevenson, James Tucker (Chiefs); Loni Uhila (Hurricanes)

                                Northland (7)
                                Josh Goodhue, Matt Moulds, Sam Nock, Kara Pryor (Blues); Solomon Alaimalo (Chiefs); Jone Macilai (Crusaders); Dan Pryor (Highlanders)

                                Bay of Plenty (6)
                                Sam Cane, Siegfried Fisi'ihoi, Nathan Harris, Mitchell Karpik, Liam Polwart, Chase Tiatia (Chiefs)

                                Southland (3)
                                Elliot Dixon, Guy Millar, Lima Sopoaga (Highlanders)

                                Not contracted (9)
                                Michael Leitch, Liam Messam, Tim Nanai-Williams (Chiefs); Tim Bateman, Digby Ioane (Crusaders); Richard Buckman, Patrick Osborne, Joe Wheeler (Highlanders); Cory Jane (Hurricanes)

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                                  Tim
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                                  #858

                                  Campbell Burnes' roundup on the squads:

                                  http://www.nzherald.co.nz/rugby/news/article.cfm?c_id=80&objectid=11740342

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                                    Tim
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                                    #859

                                    Is Culum Retallick playing for the Rebels again?

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                                      mariner4life
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                                      The Lions tour should provide an interesting dynamic in Super rugby again next year. Probably not a great thing to have too many established All Blacks, as their focus will be on peaking in June. But on the flip side, a very good year to have fringe All Blacks, as they will be playing the house down to get in that June squad.

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                                      • TimT Tim

                                        Is Culum Retallick playing for the Rebels again?

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                                        Stargazer
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                                        #861

                                        @Tim Haven't read anything about him staying at or leaving the Rebels. How many foreign players can Aussie teams sign? The Rebels already have signed two, a Japanese international and a Welshman.

                                        Edit: according to this article from July 2015, he signed for two years, so that would mean he still has another year on his contract.

                                        http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/70431944/Lock-Culum-Retallick-leaves-New-Zealand-rugby-for-Melbourne-Rebels

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                                          Where is the customary '6th Super Rugby team' made up of those left out or signed overseas because they weren't wanted?

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