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  • CrucialC Crucial

    @victor-meldrew said in All Blacks vs USA:

    @broughie said in All Blacks vs USA:

    @victor-meldrew But against the sides that are going to cause us problems like the Bok and perhaps England and Australia his size is an issue. But that is why I prefer Jordy.

    At the moment and on current form, JB's the man, but I wouldn't make size a criteria.

    England didn't cause DMac any problems in 2018 against England - quite the opposite. He was one of the best players in that game and on that tour in general, and none of the teams he played against contained collections of midgets.

    I must be one of DMac’s biggest defenders on here especially against those that continue to make judgments based on things they saw him do years ago and not the more mature player he is now ( Nonu syndrome).
    However even I can see how the smarter teams will spot him or try to put him into a position where they can run a big man at him front on.
    In part it is his terrier like attitude that gets him into these positions, like defending two out from a ruck near the line rather than getting others to fill the gap.
    Tenacious defender but there are times when size outranks will.
    As for that England game didn’t Eddie design that set piece try that pulled him one way then immediately switched so that he was sweeping from too far away as his tackle was too little too late?

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    @crucial said in All Blacks vs USA:

    As for that England game didn’t Eddie design that set piece try that pulled him one way then immediately switched so that he was sweeping from too far away as his tackle was too little too late?

    Not sure his being out of position (or other players not covering the gap) has to do with his lack of size.

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      So the shot handed out to DMac for the Augsburger try ... does Sammie W get the same treatment?

      https://twitter.com/WorldRugby/status/1452535574393499648?t=G4lWlAAd7lD9EYc1Km2ZYQ&s=19

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        So the shot handed out to DMac for the Augsburger try ... does Sammie W get the same treatment?

        https://twitter.com/WorldRugby/status/1452535574393499648?t=G4lWlAAd7lD9EYc1Km2ZYQ&s=19

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        @booboo no. Only the 15 is blamed defensively on SF

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          So the shot handed out to DMac for the Augsburger try ... does Sammie W get the same treatment?

          https://twitter.com/WorldRugby/status/1452535574393499648?t=G4lWlAAd7lD9EYc1Km2ZYQ&s=19

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          @booboo said in All Blacks vs USA:

          So the shot handed out to DMac for the Augsburger try ... does Sammie W get the same treatment?

          https://twitter.com/WorldRugby/status/1452535574393499648?t=G4lWlAAd7lD9EYc1Km2ZYQ&s=19

          Which one was blocked and which one was stepped? 😉

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            Watching that replay RM should have done better as well.

            Funny to watch it like that where you can keep pausing. I thought at the time it was all due to the comedy going on near the ruck that normal defence pattern were disrupted. However it was clearly a defensive stuff up from the ABs leaving a huge hole.
            The lock saw no one was guarding close and ran a line which the halfback wasn't expecting. Luckily for them the halfback was bounced into the hole which still hadn't been covered. Whitelock was a touch too late coming across for it to be a 'block'.
            To add to the funny picture Gardiner had got between the ruck and the backline and had to hit the deck to keep out of the way.

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            • juniorJ junior

              @crucial said in All Blacks vs USA:

              @crazy-horse said in All Blacks vs USA:

              Haven't read the thread but udging by the post above others are thinking along the same lines - the biggest take from the game for me is that it is well and truly time to put TJ out to pasture.

              A real shame. I thought he was going to be something special when he first came on the scene but I reckon he has never been the same since his leg injury a few years ago.

              He doesn't pass with his legs!
              His support play is still top notch it's the distribution that is crap.

              @crucial said in All Blacks vs USA:

              @crazy-horse said in All Blacks vs USA:

              Haven't read the thread but udging by the post above others are thinking along the same lines - the biggest take from the game for me is that it is well and truly time to put TJ out to pasture.

              A real shame. I thought he was going to be something special when he first came on the scene but I reckon he has never been the same since his leg injury a few years ago.

              He doesn't pass with his legs!
              His support play is still top notch it's the distribution that is crap.

              TJP's basic problem is that, while he is a really good rugby player, he's just not a half back. He's basically a massive under-sized flanker who has been who-horned into the halfback position to find a place for him on the field. And, because of his generally great ability to read the play, defend, run great support lines and score tries, his massive deficiencies in the technical aspects of the position that he actually plays have been glossed over. In that respect, he's actually very much like a lot of AB halfbacks in recent times - Marshall, Kelleher, Weepu, Leonard, for example, all had massive weaknesses when it came to the core technical roles of a halfback, but these were excused because they were all good rugby players. If TJP had ben contemporaries of these guys, we wouldn't be complaining about him so much. But he plays with one the best passing halfbacks of all time, so his weaknesses in that are are glaring.

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              @junior Watching clips of TJP in training he has good passing technique. But it seems in the heat of a match his radar goes awry and the ball can spray anywhere!
              Perhaps he’s trying too hard to get ball away briskly. A moment’s pause to fix his bearings might improve his accuracy. That half a second delay is better for 10 than having to catch the ball above his head. Ask DMac!

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                @junior Watching clips of TJP in training he has good passing technique. But it seems in the heat of a match his radar goes awry and the ball can spray anywhere!
                Perhaps he’s trying too hard to get ball away briskly. A moment’s pause to fix his bearings might improve his accuracy. That half a second delay is better for 10 than having to catch the ball above his head. Ask DMac!

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                @pakman said in All Blacks vs USA:

                @junior Watching clips of TJP in training he has good passing technique. But it seems in the heat of a match his radar goes awry and the ball can spray anywhere!
                Perhaps he’s trying too hard to get ball away briskly. A moment’s pause to fix his bearings might improve his accuracy. That half a second delay is better for 10 than having to catch the ball above his head. Ask DMac!

                TJP has always been a player that when he tries too hard his game goes to the bin. When he controls himself and calms down his game always benefits.

                I think it’s a little more than that now though. It feels like over the last year he just hasn’t hit the levels that he used to and having Beaudy outside him previously (especially at the Canes) probably took the pressure off somewhat so he didn’t have to try so hard.

                As a Canes fan I hope he can get back to his best because at his best he is a very good player.

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                  @junior Watching clips of TJP in training he has good passing technique. But it seems in the heat of a match his radar goes awry and the ball can spray anywhere!
                  Perhaps he’s trying too hard to get ball away briskly. A moment’s pause to fix his bearings might improve his accuracy. That half a second delay is better for 10 than having to catch the ball above his head. Ask DMac!

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                  @pakman said in All Blacks vs USA:

                  @junior Watching clips of TJP in training he has good passing technique. But it seems in the heat of a match his radar goes awry and the ball can spray anywhere!

                  I've just watched a replay of this game. He has a habit of passing above the heads of tall players too, which takes some doing. In this instance, a pass to Lomax, who did well to catch it.

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                  • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                    @pakman said in All Blacks vs USA:

                    @junior Watching clips of TJP in training he has good passing technique. But it seems in the heat of a match his radar goes awry and the ball can spray anywhere!
                    Perhaps he’s trying too hard to get ball away briskly. A moment’s pause to fix his bearings might improve his accuracy. That half a second delay is better for 10 than having to catch the ball above his head. Ask DMac!

                    TJP has always been a player that when he tries too hard his game goes to the bin. When he controls himself and calms down his game always benefits.

                    I think it’s a little more than that now though. It feels like over the last year he just hasn’t hit the levels that he used to and having Beaudy outside him previously (especially at the Canes) probably took the pressure off somewhat so he didn’t have to try so hard.

                    As a Canes fan I hope he can get back to his best because at his best he is a very good player.

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                    @canes4life said in All Blacks vs USA:

                    TJP has always been a player that when he tries too hard his game goes to the bin. When he controls himself and calms down his game always benefits.

                    He is an exceptional rugby player, with an average to poor halfback pass. Kinda like Justin Marshall.

                    That try he scored against Namibia in RWC was just insane - a really incredible sight. He has done things on the field that are just mind boggling (in a good way, haters) ... but as a 9 his passing and decision making is patchy.

                    On the negative, his seagulling in Lions 3 after we got awarded a scrum allowed the Lions halfback to steal the ball and run downfield. More focus there and we score somehow. Yes, I can bear a grudge people.

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                      He’s also a terrier on defence, and though not huge, generates some awesome turnovers. But I agree with a few on here, he seems to be trying to be a fast as Smith, but can’t do that with accuracy.
                      He’s also been beyond awesome for the canes and hopefully he’ll knock the fuckwit folau off the top of the trying scoring list next year

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