All Blacks 2022

Crucial

@higgins said in All Blacks 2022:

@crucial said in All Blacks 2022:

Dmac beat defenders once every 2.5 runs at 2 per game

Are there separate statistics for defenders beaten whilst running forwards and running sideways or are they just all lumped together?

That’s so 2018

gt12

@higgins said in All Blacks 2022:

@crucial said in All Blacks 2022:

Dmac beat defenders once every 2.5 runs at 2 per game

Are there separate statistics for defenders beaten whilst running forwards and running sideways or are they just all lumped together?

I thought @antipodean would have got in here with that comment first!

From the way he is going over here, I don't know that he'll want to come home. He's killing it, making heaps of cash, and is adored.

cgrant

@kiwi_expat said in All Blacks 2022:

I want to see brave selections in 2022, not afraid to leave out established players, something like this:

De Groot

Taukei'aho

Mafileo

Rettalick

Whitelock

Vaa'i

Papali'i

Ioane

Smith

Barrett

Ioane

Umaga-Jenson 1

Umaga-Jenson 2

Jordan

Barrett

Coles

Williams

A.Moli

Barrett

Savea

Fakatava

Mo'unga

Lienert-Brown

Greater emphasis on size and physicality in selecting the starting XV, and a lot less limited Crusaders players.

If you play a lock at 6, then I think Selby-Rickitt looks to be more suited to that role.
I am not convinced by Mafileo. He is a strong scrummager and is absent in the loose. Ainsley is the form THP in the country.

I'd go with :

De Groot
Taukei'aho
Ainsley
Retallick
Whitelock
Ioane
Cane / Papali'i
Sowakula
Smith
Mo'unga
Clarke
T. Umaga-Jensen / J. Barrett
Ioane / P. Umaga-Jensen
Jordan / Ioane
J. Barrett / Jordan

Coles
Hogdman
Lomax
Barrett
Savea
Weber
B. Barrett
Fainganu'uku

Daffy Jaffy

@cgrant Ainsley played 3 time for the Wallabies in 2018 so likely not eligible. NZ born though.

Grooter

@daffy-jaffy so he's now completed his 3 year stand down period and would therefore be eligible for the ABs?

Daffy Jaffy

@fakatavafuture Or has it now changed to five years? Then there was some Olympic loophole thing. I'm not up to speed with the latest rules.

Dan54

@fakatavafuture said in All Blacks 2022:

@daffy-jaffy so he's now completed his 3 year stand down period and would therefore be eligible for the ABs?

He actually qualified last year, but as he was injured and didn't play, he has to wait for the 5 years, (end of this year) I think it starts from when he left college or something now too.

Bones

@dan54 said in All Blacks 2022:

@fakatavafuture said in All Blacks 2022:

@daffy-jaffy so he's now completed his 3 year stand down period and would therefore be eligible for the ABs?

He actually qualified last year, but as he was injured and didn't play, he has to wait for the 5 years, (end of this year) I think it starts from when he left college or something now too.

Sounds like you're talking about Fakatava, not Ainsley.

Crucial

@bones said in All Blacks 2022:

@dan54 said in All Blacks 2022:

@fakatavafuture said in All Blacks 2022:

@daffy-jaffy so he's now completed his 3 year stand down period and would therefore be eligible for the ABs?

He actually qualified last year, but as he was injured and didn't play, he has to wait for the 5 years, (end of this year) I think it starts from when he left college or something now too.

Sounds like you're talking about Fakatava, not Ainsley.

Standard Fern diversion.

Machpants

@daffy-jaffy said in All Blacks 2022:

@fakatavafuture Or has it now changed to five years? Then there was some Olympic loophole thing. I'm not up to speed with the latest rules.

5 years is to get residency for non born (or parents/g parents). Ainsley born in NZ, new rule that after 3 years of not playing test rugby you are then ‘re-eligible’ for your birth (parent/g parent) country. So Ainsley, born in NZ not played for wallabies for more than 3 years, is now eligible for ABs. Piutau, born in NZ but Tongan parents & hasn’t played for ABs for over 3 years, is now eligible for Tonga - etc. No need for Olympc loophole, which still works.

Crucial

Consensus here seems to be that we can't ditch the old locks yet as the replacements aren't ready.

That points to a need to get them ready.

Vai'i and Lord are in the prime position to put their hands up playing alongside BBBR in Super.

It still may be a season too early for some but even so they need to be in the 23 mix to get experience. I would alternate starts alongside a veteran with another vet on the bench.
I like the energy that Vai'i brings but he seems to be lacking mass in collisions

mariner4life

the chance of us entering any big test this year without all of Whitelock, Retallic and Barrett is basically zero (as long as fit)

DaGrubster

@mariner4life

Agreed, the ABs will be praying that they stay fit and in half decent form.

The rest will get game time but seem some time away from being able to make an impact in international rugby. Especially when they seem very lightweight in an era of heavyweight rugby.

Honestly, it seems like the ABs are like the Boks in the 80’s and that we are isolated from how the rest of the world is playing rugby

canefan

@dagrubster we were ahead for a long time. But the pack has definitely caught us. Meanwhile we are in a low period

Machpants

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DaGrubster

@canefan

Yeah, I know. Don’t want to elaborate further as I find that when I post it is normally negative!!

canefan

@dagrubster maybe if they played better you could be more upbeat....

Dan54

@dan54 said in All Blacks 2022:

@fakatavafuture said in All Blacks 2022:

@daffy-jaffy so he's now completed his 3 year stand down period and would therefore be eligible for the ABs?

He actually qualified last year, but as he was injured and didn't play, he has to wait for the 5 years, (end of this year) I think it starts from when he left college or something now too.

Whoops yep sorry mate, looked at your nic and didn't read everything!!!:beaming_face_with_smiling_eyes:

taniwharugby

Fitzy said Fozzie knows where he's going!

As for the All Blacks, Fitzpatrick certainly isn’t panicking.

“I think he (Foster) knows where he’s going, that’s for sure. We’re 18 months out from the World Cup, and traditionally, we haven’t worked in four-year cycles. Every year we try to pick the best team to win the (Rugby) Championship, or whatever tour we’re on,” Fitzpatrick said.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/international/128011311/sean-fitzpatricks-rugby-word-cup-form-book-is-ominous

DaGrubster

@canefan

Haha! Yeah, I genuinely don’t let the AB results affect my mood.

Wasn’t always the case though!

I do believe there is potentially a pretty good side that could emerge for the ABs here but there are a few challenges to overcome for that to happen. Mainly numbers 1-23 and the coaching staff 🤪

The Silver Fern

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