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  • KiwiMurphK Online
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    #1154

    Nonu and 2007 makes me think of the Junior All Blacks Team that played in the Pacific Nations Cup.

    Nonu wasn't the only player to miss the 2007 RWC that came back into the ABs fold - Weepu, Cory Jane and Kaino come to mind.

    Here's the AB team that beat Austalia A 50 points to nil in Dunedin in 2007.

    Junior All Blacks: Cory Jane, Scott Hamilton, Ma'a Nonu, Sam Tuitupou, Anthony Tuitavake, Stephen Donald, Andrew Ellis; Sione Lauaki, Marty Holah (capt), Jerome Kaino, Tom Donnelly, Hoani MacDonald, John Afoa, Derren Witcombe, Clarke Dermody. Res: Corey Flynn, Campbell Johnstone, Mose Tuiali'i, Daniel Braid, Jimmy Cowan, Stephen Brett, Tane Tu'ipulotu.

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    • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

      Nonu and 2007 makes me think of the Junior All Blacks Team that played in the Pacific Nations Cup.

      Nonu wasn't the only player to miss the 2007 RWC that came back into the ABs fold - Weepu, Cory Jane and Kaino come to mind.

      Here's the AB team that beat Austalia A 50 points to nil in Dunedin in 2007.

      Junior All Blacks: Cory Jane, Scott Hamilton, Ma'a Nonu, Sam Tuitupou, Anthony Tuitavake, Stephen Donald, Andrew Ellis; Sione Lauaki, Marty Holah (capt), Jerome Kaino, Tom Donnelly, Hoani MacDonald, John Afoa, Derren Witcombe, Clarke Dermody. Res: Corey Flynn, Campbell Johnstone, Mose Tuiali'i, Daniel Braid, Jimmy Cowan, Stephen Brett, Tane Tu'ipulotu.

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      @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2022:

      Nonu and 2007 makes me think of the Junior All Blacks Team that played in the Pacific Nations Cup.

      Nonu wasn't the only player to miss the 2007 RWC that came back into the ABs fold - Weepu, Cory Jane and Kaino come to mind.

      Here's the AB team that beat Austalia A 50 points to nil in Dunedin in 2007.

      Junior All Blacks: Cory Jane, Scott Hamilton, Ma'a Nonu, Sam Tuitupou, Anthony Tuitavake, Stephen Donald, Andrew Ellis; Sione Lauaki, Marty Holah (capt), Jerome Kaino, Tom Donnelly, Hoani MacDonald, John Afoa, Derren Witcombe, Clarke Dermody. Res: Corey Flynn, Campbell Johnstone, Mose Tuiali'i, Daniel Braid, Jimmy Cowan, Stephen Brett, Tane Tu'ipulotu.

      I always hoped he’d go on to great things, he always looked good when he got a chance at the Canes if he snuck past Umaga, Nonu and Smith.

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      • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

        Nonu and 2007 makes me think of the Junior All Blacks Team that played in the Pacific Nations Cup.

        Nonu wasn't the only player to miss the 2007 RWC that came back into the ABs fold - Weepu, Cory Jane and Kaino come to mind.

        Here's the AB team that beat Austalia A 50 points to nil in Dunedin in 2007.

        Junior All Blacks: Cory Jane, Scott Hamilton, Ma'a Nonu, Sam Tuitupou, Anthony Tuitavake, Stephen Donald, Andrew Ellis; Sione Lauaki, Marty Holah (capt), Jerome Kaino, Tom Donnelly, Hoani MacDonald, John Afoa, Derren Witcombe, Clarke Dermody. Res: Corey Flynn, Campbell Johnstone, Mose Tuiali'i, Daniel Braid, Jimmy Cowan, Stephen Brett, Tane Tu'ipulotu.

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        @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2022:

        Nonu and 2007 makes me think of the Junior All Blacks Team that played in the Pacific Nations Cup.

        Nonu wasn't the only player to miss the 2007 RWC that came back into the ABs fold - Weepu, Cory Jane and Kaino come to mind.

        Here's the AB team that beat Austalia A 50 points to nil in Dunedin in 2007.

        Junior All Blacks: Cory Jane, Scott Hamilton, Ma'a Nonu, Sam Tuitupou, Anthony Tuitavake, Stephen Donald, Andrew Ellis; Sione Lauaki, Marty Holah (capt), Jerome Kaino, Tom Donnelly, Hoani MacDonald, John Afoa, Derren Witcombe, Clarke Dermody. Res: Corey Flynn, Campbell Johnstone, Mose Tuiali'i, Daniel Braid, Jimmy Cowan, Stephen Brett, Tane Tu'ipulotu.

        Now make this team for 2022 (Super rugby players not in the AB 36)

        How many does 2007 win by? 40? 50?

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        • MN5M MN5

          @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2022:

          Nonu and 2007 makes me think of the Junior All Blacks Team that played in the Pacific Nations Cup.

          Nonu wasn't the only player to miss the 2007 RWC that came back into the ABs fold - Weepu, Cory Jane and Kaino come to mind.

          Here's the AB team that beat Austalia A 50 points to nil in Dunedin in 2007.

          Junior All Blacks: Cory Jane, Scott Hamilton, Ma'a Nonu, Sam Tuitupou, Anthony Tuitavake, Stephen Donald, Andrew Ellis; Sione Lauaki, Marty Holah (capt), Jerome Kaino, Tom Donnelly, Hoani MacDonald, John Afoa, Derren Witcombe, Clarke Dermody. Res: Corey Flynn, Campbell Johnstone, Mose Tuiali'i, Daniel Braid, Jimmy Cowan, Stephen Brett, Tane Tu'ipulotu.

          I always hoped he’d go on to great things, he always looked good when he got a chance at the Canes if he snuck past Umaga, Nonu and Smith.

          KiwiMurphK Online
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          @MN5 Agreed he was a good player - similar player to Charlie Ngatai

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          • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

            @MN5 Agreed he was a good player - similar player to Charlie Ngatai

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            @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2022:

            @MN5 Agreed he was a good player - similar player to Charlie Ngatai

            What, are you saying there are TWO Gods now ?

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            • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

              @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2022:

              Nonu and 2007 makes me think of the Junior All Blacks Team that played in the Pacific Nations Cup.

              Nonu wasn't the only player to miss the 2007 RWC that came back into the ABs fold - Weepu, Cory Jane and Kaino come to mind.

              Here's the AB team that beat Austalia A 50 points to nil in Dunedin in 2007.

              Junior All Blacks: Cory Jane, Scott Hamilton, Ma'a Nonu, Sam Tuitupou, Anthony Tuitavake, Stephen Donald, Andrew Ellis; Sione Lauaki, Marty Holah (capt), Jerome Kaino, Tom Donnelly, Hoani MacDonald, John Afoa, Derren Witcombe, Clarke Dermody. Res: Corey Flynn, Campbell Johnstone, Mose Tuiali'i, Daniel Braid, Jimmy Cowan, Stephen Brett, Tane Tu'ipulotu.

              Now make this team for 2022 (Super rugby players not in the AB 36)

              How many does 2007 win by? 40? 50?

              KiwiMurphK Online
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              @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2022:

              Now make this team for 2022 (Super rugby players not in the AB 36)

              How many does 2007 win by? 40? 50?

              Hamilton vs Bridge would be worth the ticket price alone.......

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              • MN5M MN5

                @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2022:

                @MN5 Agreed he was a good player - similar player to Charlie Ngatai

                What, are you saying there are TWO Gods now ?

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                @MN5 said in All Blacks 2022:

                @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2022:

                @MN5 Agreed he was a good player - similar player to Charlie Ngatai

                What, are you saying there are TWO Gods now ?

                Depends on if you consider Jesus God or the son of God? But I'm sure there can be both a Maori and Tongan Jesus.

                TBH, while I thought Tuipulotou was a good player I never consider him to be at Jesus status.

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                • NepiaN Nepia

                  @MN5 said in All Blacks 2022:

                  @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2022:

                  @MN5 Agreed he was a good player - similar player to Charlie Ngatai

                  What, are you saying there are TWO Gods now ?

                  Depends on if you consider Jesus God or the son of God? But I'm sure there can be both a Maori and Tongan Jesus.

                  TBH, while I thought Tuipulotou was a good player I never consider him to be at Jesus status.

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                  @Nepia said in All Blacks 2022:

                  @MN5 said in All Blacks 2022:

                  @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2022:

                  @MN5 Agreed he was a good player - similar player to Charlie Ngatai

                  What, are you saying there are TWO Gods now ?

                  Depends on if you consider Jesus God or the son of God? But I'm sure there can be both a Maori and Tongan Jesus.

                  TBH, while I thought Tuipulotou was a good player I never consider him to be at Jesus status.

                  I think he scored a try ages ago when he steamrolled Corne Krige nice and emphatically. That was pretty cool.

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                  • KiwiMurphK Online
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                    #1162

                    @Dan54 said in All Blacks 2022:

                    No I talking about the likes of (just an example) James Parsons, Bryn hall etc etc. are 2 that have reckoned he was best 6 early on, you know someone who actually plays and has played, I know it seems dumb to take any notice of people who actually tied up in game and watch/play it as jobs when we got a forum to take notice of.

                    I enjoy listening to that podcast but with one player current and another player not very long retired they don't critique too many players. There is a lot of praise thrown around - Bryn Hall's team of the week is typically stacked with Crusaders and Parsons is very Blues-centric as he's so tight with the whole squad. They asked them to pick their AB teams in an earlier podcast this season and the general theme was that there's so much depth that it's going to be hard to pick anyone - they ended up just naming all the contenders without really giving a strong take one way or the other.

                    For example they talked about the midfield and went on about how great the depth was - well last year in tight tests the midfield was found wanting on numerous occasions - but there was no reference to that at all - just supposedly how many options they have.

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                    • StargazerS Stargazer

                      Why move Cane at this late stage of his career, if you can move Papali'i?

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                      @Stargazer said in All Blacks 2022:

                      Why move Cane at this late stage of his career, if you can move Papali'i?

                      isn;t that a pretty normal suggestion, as players slow slightly move them and let the new younger guy have a shot in their prefered position

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                      • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                        @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2022:

                        Nonu and 2007 makes me think of the Junior All Blacks Team that played in the Pacific Nations Cup.

                        Nonu wasn't the only player to miss the 2007 RWC that came back into the ABs fold - Weepu, Cory Jane and Kaino come to mind.

                        Here's the AB team that beat Austalia A 50 points to nil in Dunedin in 2007.

                        Junior All Blacks: Cory Jane, Scott Hamilton, Ma'a Nonu, Sam Tuitupou, Anthony Tuitavake, Stephen Donald, Andrew Ellis; Sione Lauaki, Marty Holah (capt), Jerome Kaino, Tom Donnelly, Hoani MacDonald, John Afoa, Derren Witcombe, Clarke Dermody. Res: Corey Flynn, Campbell Johnstone, Mose Tuiali'i, Daniel Braid, Jimmy Cowan, Stephen Brett, Tane Tu'ipulotu.

                        Now make this team for 2022 (Super rugby players not in the AB 36)

                        How many does 2007 win by? 40? 50?

                        TimT Away
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                        #1164

                        @mariner4life Let's guess a 23 based on players who weren't selected in the initial AB squad last year.

                        1 Hodgman
                        2 Taukei'aho
                        3 Sione Mafileo
                        4 Strange
                        5 Cowley-Tuioti
                        6 Robinson
                        7 Lachlan Boshier
                        8 Sowakula
                        9 Perenara
                        10 Perofeta/Ioane
                        11 Fainga'anuku
                        12 Nankivell/Faiane
                        13 Peter Umaga-Jensen
                        14 Telea
                        15 Sullivan

                        16 Eklund
                        17 Ross
                        18 Jager
                        19 Goodhue/Dunshea
                        20 Sanders/Harmon
                        21 Hall
                        22 Hunt/Ioane/Perofeta/Black/Plummer
                        23 Stevenson

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                        • TimT Tim

                          @mariner4life Let's guess a 23 based on players who weren't selected in the initial AB squad last year.

                          1 Hodgman
                          2 Taukei'aho
                          3 Sione Mafileo
                          4 Strange
                          5 Cowley-Tuioti
                          6 Robinson
                          7 Lachlan Boshier
                          8 Sowakula
                          9 Perenara
                          10 Perofeta/Ioane
                          11 Fainga'anuku
                          12 Nankivell/Faiane
                          13 Peter Umaga-Jensen
                          14 Telea
                          15 Sullivan

                          16 Eklund
                          17 Ross
                          18 Jager
                          19 Goodhue/Dunshea
                          20 Sanders/Harmon
                          21 Hall
                          22 Hunt/Ioane/Perofeta/Black/Plummer
                          23 Stevenson

                          KiwiwombleK Online
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                          Kiwiwomble
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                          @Tim no TUJ?

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                          • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                            @Tim no TUJ?

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                            #1166

                            @Kiwiwomble Injured last year.

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                            • TimT Tim

                              @Kiwiwomble Injured last year.

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                              #1167

                              @Tim missed that was a consideration

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                              • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                                @Tim missed that was a consideration

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                                #1168

                                @Kiwiwomble As the AB squad for this year is unknown, I guessed a B team for last year.

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                                • TimT Tim

                                  @mariner4life Let's guess a 23 based on players who weren't selected in the initial AB squad last year.

                                  1 Hodgman
                                  2 Taukei'aho
                                  3 Sione Mafileo
                                  4 Strange
                                  5 Cowley-Tuioti
                                  6 Robinson
                                  7 Lachlan Boshier
                                  8 Sowakula
                                  9 Perenara
                                  10 Perofeta/Ioane
                                  11 Fainga'anuku
                                  12 Nankivell/Faiane
                                  13 Peter Umaga-Jensen
                                  14 Telea
                                  15 Sullivan

                                  16 Eklund
                                  17 Ross
                                  18 Jager
                                  19 Goodhue/Dunshea
                                  20 Sanders/Harmon
                                  21 Hall
                                  22 Hunt/Ioane/Perofeta/Black/Plummer
                                  23 Stevenson

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                                  @Tim Based on who was later selected the starting locks would have to be Strange and Dunshea. Kirifi would be in the mix too.

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                                  • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                    @Tim Based on who was later selected the starting locks would have to be Strange and Dunshea. Kirifi would be in the mix too.

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                                    #1170

                                    @Bovidae I'm the coach and selector for this one.

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                                    • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                      @Tim Based on who was later selected the starting locks would have to be Strange and Dunshea. Kirifi would be in the mix too.

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                                      @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:

                                      Kirifi would be in the mix too

                                      NO

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                                      • TimT Tim

                                        @Bovidae I'm the coach and selector for this one.

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                                        @Tim said in All Blacks 2022:

                                        @Bovidae I'm the coach and selector for this one.

                                        So why are you picking TJP? 😉 He wasn't even in NZ.

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                                        • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                          @Tim said in All Blacks 2022:

                                          @Bovidae I'm the coach and selector for this one.

                                          So why are you picking TJP? 😉 He wasn't even in NZ.

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                                          @Bovidae Experience. Pretty thin pickings otherwise.

                                          Other than him Nock, Drummond, ?

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