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  • KirwanK Offline
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    Barrett showed tonight he’s the ten to win us another World Cup.

    Isn’t a flake on defence, has magic moments, great calmness under pressure and doesn’t go missing when things don’t go his way.

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    • KirwanK Kirwan

      Barrett showed tonight he’s the ten to win us another World Cup.

      Isn’t a flake on defence, has magic moments, great calmness under pressure and doesn’t go missing when things don’t go his way.

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      @Kirwan He had a bad game. Slotting the winning droppie doesn't make him a good 10.

      Not saying he shouldn't play 10 for the ABs; just didn't show it today.

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      • KirwanK Kirwan

        Barrett showed tonight he’s the ten to win us another World Cup.

        Isn’t a flake on defence, has magic moments, great calmness under pressure and doesn’t go missing when things don’t go his way.

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        @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:

        Barrett showed tonight he’s the ten to win us another World Cup.

        Isn’t a flake on defence, has magic moments, great calmness under pressure and doesn’t go missing when things don’t go his way.

        We'll need an effective long and accurate punter in the team, so whether he is at 15 or 12, Jordie is a requirement.

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        • No QuarterN Online
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          No Quarter
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          #1594

          Definitely liking the looks of Smith, Beauden, Clarke, RTS, Rieko, Jordan, Jordie at this stage

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          • StargazerS Stargazer

            @Kirwan He had a bad game. Slotting the winning droppie doesn't make him a good 10.

            Not saying he shouldn't play 10 for the ABs; just didn't show it today.

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            @Stargazer said in All Blacks 2022:

            @Kirwan He had a bad game. Slotting the winning droppie doesn't make him a good 10.

            I think your bias is showing again.

            Well taken try, excellent defence (rugby is more than just attack) and worked hard to get us in the right parts of the field.

            No panic under pressure and wins it after the hooter.

            If that’s playing badly, I’ll take it every week and certainly in a World Cup.

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            • No QuarterN No Quarter

              Definitely liking the looks of Smith, Beauden, Clarke, RTS, Rieko, Jordan, Jordie at this stage

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              @No-Quarter said in All Blacks 2022:

              Definitely liking the looks of Smith, Beauden, Clarke, RTS, Rieko, Jordan, Jordie at this stage

              That’s my preference too.

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                Definitely liking the looks of Smith, Beauden, Clarke, RTS, Rieko, Jordan, Jordie at this stage

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                @No-Quarter said in All Blacks 2022:

                Definitely liking the looks of Smith, Beauden, Clarke, RTS, Rieko, Jordan, Jordie at this stage

                John Bitchell and the Hammetteur would have heart attacks seeing all that "flair" in one backline.

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                • NepiaN Nepia

                  @No-Quarter said in All Blacks 2022:

                  Definitely liking the looks of Smith, Beauden, Clarke, RTS, Rieko, Jordan, Jordie at this stage

                  John Bitchell and the Hammetteur would have heart attacks seeing all that "flair" in one backline.

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                  #1598

                  @Nepia said in All Blacks 2022:

                  @No-Quarter said in All Blacks 2022:

                  Definitely liking the looks of Smith, Beauden, Clarke, RTS, Rieko, Jordan, Jordie at this stage

                  John Bitchell and the Hammetteur would have heart attacks seeing all that "flair" in one backline.

                  Haha, to hell with the safe players man, we're back in the pack now and need a point of difference. Every player in that backline is a threat, let's get them all out there and run fucking rampant.

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                  • StargazerS Stargazer

                    @Kirwan He had a bad game. Slotting the winning droppie doesn't make him a good 10.

                    Not saying he shouldn't play 10 for the ABs; just didn't show it today.

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                    @Stargazer said in All Blacks 2022:

                    @Kirwan He had a bad game. Slotting the winning droppie doesn't make him a good 10.

                    Not saying he shouldn't play 10 for the ABs; just didn't show it today.

                    You get back to us when Mo'unga learns how to tackle.

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                    • KirwanK Kirwan

                      @Stargazer said in All Blacks 2022:

                      @Kirwan He had a bad game. Slotting the winning droppie doesn't make him a good 10.

                      I think your bias is showing again.

                      Well taken try, excellent defence (rugby is more than just attack) and worked hard to get us in the right parts of the field.

                      No panic under pressure and wins it after the hooter.

                      If that’s playing badly, I’ll take it every week and certainly in a World Cup.

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                      @Kirwan Yup, he had a very solid outing. His tactical kicking drove us out of trouble by going high and into the 22 forcing Muirhead to put the ball out to hand posession back to us. He also looks very dangerous taking the line on and topped off the night with a droppie to win it.

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                      • No QuarterN No Quarter

                        Definitely liking the looks of Smith, Beauden, Clarke, RTS, Rieko, Jordan, Jordie at this stage

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                        @No-Quarter said in All Blacks 2022:

                        Definitely liking the looks of Smith, Beauden, Clarke, RTS, Rieko, Jordan, Jordie at this stage

                        I think RTS needs a few more games at SR level under his belt first. Too much of a prospect to risk throwing him into the deep end just yet - an EOYT slot would be a good possibility though.

                        Think it's Clarke v Reece for the wing slot opposite Jordan. Nice choice for Foster to make.

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                        • KirwanK Kirwan

                          @Stargazer said in All Blacks 2022:

                          @Kirwan He had a bad game. Slotting the winning droppie doesn't make him a good 10.

                          I think your bias is showing again.

                          Well taken try, excellent defence (rugby is more than just attack) and worked hard to get us in the right parts of the field.

                          No panic under pressure and wins it after the hooter.

                          If that’s playing badly, I’ll take it every week and certainly in a World Cup.

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                          @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:

                          @Stargazer said in All Blacks 2022:

                          @Kirwan He had a bad game. Slotting the winning droppie doesn't make him a good 10.

                          I think your bias is showing again.

                          Well taken try, excellent defence (rugby is more than just attack) and worked hard to get us in the right parts of the field.

                          No panic under pressure and wins it after the hooter.

                          If that’s playing badly, I’ll take it every week and certainly in a World Cup.

                          As a neutral, I thought his game overall was a bit of a curate's egg. Some outstanding moments but also some really, really average stuff. That said, his outstanding stuff came at just the right time and he sealed the win, so yeah, def. a player you want for the big games.

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                          • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                            @No-Quarter said in All Blacks 2022:

                            Definitely liking the looks of Smith, Beauden, Clarke, RTS, Rieko, Jordan, Jordie at this stage

                            I think RTS needs a few more games at SR level under his belt first. Too much of a prospect to risk throwing him into the deep end just yet - an EOYT slot would be a good possibility though.

                            Think it's Clarke v Reece for the wing slot opposite Jordan. Nice choice for Foster to make.

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                            @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2022:

                            @No-Quarter said in All Blacks 2022:

                            Definitely liking the looks of Smith, Beauden, Clarke, RTS, Rieko, Jordan, Jordie at this stage

                            I think RTS needs a few more games at SR level under his belt first. Too much of a prospect to risk throwing him into the deep end just yet - an EOYT slot would be a good possibility though.

                            Think it's Clarke v Reece for the wing slot opposite Jordan. Nice choice for Foster to make.

                            We're going to have to take a punt on someone and he has the most talent of the lot.

                            Havili - just not up to it, was a stop gap at best, an absolute waste if time starting him there for further tests
                            Goodhue - classy player but coming back from a long injury and his best performances in black were at 13
                            Jordie - has loads of potential to be a world class 12, but not a big body of work there at Super level and above, and is established at 15 already
                            Tupea - young, still developing, has a way to go yet

                            Am I missing anyone? Who would you pick? With ALB out the home tests are a great opportunity to blood someone that has potential to succeed in the position.

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                            • No QuarterN No Quarter

                              @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2022:

                              @No-Quarter said in All Blacks 2022:

                              Definitely liking the looks of Smith, Beauden, Clarke, RTS, Rieko, Jordan, Jordie at this stage

                              I think RTS needs a few more games at SR level under his belt first. Too much of a prospect to risk throwing him into the deep end just yet - an EOYT slot would be a good possibility though.

                              Think it's Clarke v Reece for the wing slot opposite Jordan. Nice choice for Foster to make.

                              We're going to have to take a punt on someone and he has the most talent of the lot.

                              Havili - just not up to it, was a stop gap at best, an absolute waste if time starting him there for further tests
                              Goodhue - classy player but coming back from a long injury and his best performances in black were at 13
                              Jordie - has loads of potential to be a world class 12, but not a big body of work there at Super level and above, and is established at 15 already
                              Tupea - young, still developing, has a way to go yet

                              Am I missing anyone? Who would you pick? With ALB out the home tests are a great opportunity to blood someone that has potential to succeed in the position.

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                              @No-Quarter said in All Blacks 2022:

                              @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2022:

                              @No-Quarter said in All Blacks 2022:

                              Definitely liking the looks of Smith, Beauden, Clarke, RTS, Rieko, Jordan, Jordie at this stage

                              I think RTS needs a few more games at SR level under his belt first. Too much of a prospect to risk throwing him into the deep end just yet - an EOYT slot would be a good possibility though.

                              Think it's Clarke v Reece for the wing slot opposite Jordan. Nice choice for Foster to make.

                              We're going to have to take a punt on someone and he has the most talent of the lot.

                              Havili - just not up to it, was a stop gap at best, an absolute waste if time starting him there for further tests
                              Goodhue - classy player but coming back from a long injury and his best performances in black were at 13
                              Jordie - has loads of potential to be a world class 12, but not a big body of work there at Super level and above, and is established at 15 already
                              Tupea - young, still developing, has a way to go yet

                              Am I missing anyone? Who would you pick? With ALB out the home tests are a great opportunity to blood someone that has potential to succeed in the position.

                              I'd go for experience at Test level for the Irish series. which would mean Reiko at 13 and either QT or Goodhue at 12 (depending on how he goes) in the starting line-up. Jordie could provide cover at 12. I'd go for TUJ for a punt in the 23 as he's been playing well.

                              I think RTS needs to be handled well to get the best out of him and a Test slot at this stage could be a step too far and poss.backfire if he has a 'mare. Hope he will be in the big squad for experience and with a view for a poss. bench slot in later tests and the EOYT.

                              Agree with Havili. Thought he showed real potential in the Bledisloe, but he seemed to drop off badly after that. Rabbit in headlights stuff at times

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                              • KirwanK Kirwan

                                @No-Quarter said in All Blacks 2022:

                                Definitely liking the looks of Smith, Beauden, Clarke, RTS, Rieko, Jordan, Jordie at this stage

                                That’s my preference too.

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                                @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:

                                @No-Quarter said in All Blacks 2022:

                                Definitely liking the looks of Smith, Beauden, Clarke, RTS, Rieko, Jordan, Jordie at this stage

                                That’s my preference too.

                                Mine, too.

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                                • No QuarterN No Quarter

                                  @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2022:

                                  @No-Quarter said in All Blacks 2022:

                                  Definitely liking the looks of Smith, Beauden, Clarke, RTS, Rieko, Jordan, Jordie at this stage

                                  I think RTS needs a few more games at SR level under his belt first. Too much of a prospect to risk throwing him into the deep end just yet - an EOYT slot would be a good possibility though.

                                  Think it's Clarke v Reece for the wing slot opposite Jordan. Nice choice for Foster to make.

                                  We're going to have to take a punt on someone and he has the most talent of the lot.

                                  Havili - just not up to it, was a stop gap at best, an absolute waste if time starting him there for further tests
                                  Goodhue - classy player but coming back from a long injury and his best performances in black were at 13
                                  Jordie - has loads of potential to be a world class 12, but not a big body of work there at Super level and above, and is established at 15 already
                                  Tupea - young, still developing, has a way to go yet

                                  Am I missing anyone? Who would you pick? With ALB out the home tests are a great opportunity to blood someone that has potential to succeed in the position.

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                                  #1606

                                  @No-Quarter said in All Blacks 2022:

                                  @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2022:

                                  @No-Quarter said in All Blacks 2022:

                                  Definitely liking the looks of Smith, Beauden, Clarke, RTS, Rieko, Jordan, Jordie at this stage

                                  I think RTS needs a few more games at SR level under his belt first. Too much of a prospect to risk throwing him into the deep end just yet - an EOYT slot would be a good possibility though.

                                  Think it's Clarke v Reece for the wing slot opposite Jordan. Nice choice for Foster to make.

                                  We're going to have to take a punt on someone and he has the most talent of the lot.

                                  Havili - just not up to it, was a stop gap at best, an absolute waste if time starting him there for further tests
                                  Goodhue - classy player but coming back from a long injury and his best performances in black were at 13
                                  Jordie - has loads of potential to be a world class 12, but not a big body of work there at Super level and above, and is established at 15 already
                                  Tupea - young, still developing, has a way to go yet

                                  Am I missing anyone? Who would you pick? With ALB out the home tests are a great opportunity to blood someone that has potential to succeed in the position.

                                  Some odd logic.
                                  There’s a bit of bias in my pick but mainly because I watch him play more, but QT has been on fire and doing everything you want of an AB 12.

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                                    What I would say is that there are a couple of options for 2nd 5, but I don't see RTS being ahead of the others. And no, Havili isn't one of those.

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                                    • No QuarterN No Quarter

                                      Definitely liking the looks of Smith, Beauden, Clarke, RTS, Rieko, Jordan, Jordie at this stage

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                                      @No-Quarter said in All Blacks 2022:

                                      Definitely liking the looks of Smith, Beauden, Clarke, RTS, Rieko, Jordan, Jordie at this stage

                                      Not quite. Smith, BB, CC, Jordie, Reiko, Reece and Jordan for me.

                                      RTS in the squad for sure but not doing enough yet to be a test starter.

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                                        Can we shelve the Jordie at 12 idea for Ireland?
                                        We simply don’t have time to adjust and why move last years best player and cause change everywhere else.
                                        Move him there at the 60 minute mark after someone else has gone hard. That way either Reece or Clarke can be the impact reserve.

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                                          Can we shelve the Jordie at 12 idea for Ireland?
                                          We simply don’t have time to adjust and why move last years best player and cause change everywhere else.
                                          Move him there at the 60 minute mark after someone else has gone hard. That way either Reece or Clarke can be the impact reserve.

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                                          @Crucial why? He looks more than capable of making the step up and it makes sense to get him in there while his bro’s at ten for familiarity.

                                          It’s anyones guess what Foster is going to do anyway. He’s not innovative so I’m sure he will just keep Havili.

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