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All Blacks 2022

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    #3035

    An HD camera would be good.

    @Crucial You'll recognise someone being interviewed.

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    • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

      wasnt one of the reasons Luatua wasnt picked was he had signed offshore?

      Outside of RWC years, usually if you have signed elsewhere, you miss out.

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      @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2022:

      wasnt one of the reasons Luatua wasnt picked was he had signed offshore?

      Outside of RWC years, usually if you have signed elsewhere, you miss out.

      Not true, they always say they pick the best team available. But if it's close they'll pick the one that's staying. Piutau was not picked cos they wanted someone else. Not saying they always make the right picks, but that is a consistent line from the selectors

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      • GrooterG Online
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        with Lord unfortunately gone for the season, Tom Robinson might eventually earn his way into ABs camp maybe🤔

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        • GrooterG Grooter

          with Lord unfortunately gone for the season, Tom Robinson might eventually earn his way into ABs camp maybe🤔

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          @FakatavaAllBlack said in All Blacks 2022:

          with Lord unfortunately gone for the season, Tom Robinson might eventually earn his way into ABs camp maybe🤔

          Source?

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            https://twitter.com/AllBlacks/status/1537663449102135296

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              Bummer. The early prognosis was 2-3 weeks.

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                https://twitter.com/AllBlacks/status/1537663449102135296

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                @antipodean said in All Blacks 2022:

                https://twitter.com/AllBlacks/status/1537663449102135296

                Real shame for Josh but he'll bounce back and be rearing to go come SR 2023
                Was playing golf a couple weekends ago and Josh was in the group in front of mine so maybe later in his recovery he can head out to work on his golf game...

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                • GrooterG Grooter

                  with Lord unfortunately gone for the season, Tom Robinson might eventually earn his way into ABs camp maybe🤔

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                  @FakatavaAllBlack said in All Blacks 2022:

                  with Lord unfortunately gone for the season, Tom Robinson might eventually earn his way into ABs camp maybe🤔

                  Seems strange not to replace Lord, even with a lock. Surely it's worth looking at someone?

                  Adding Robinson would at least put pressure on Vaai to perform as the lock/blindside and give an option to replace him if he gets injured.

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                    Yeah that sucks - he'll probably come into his own post World Cup given now he'll have limited opportunities in black before RWC.

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                      Poor buggar, that must be heartbreaking.

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                      • gt12G gt12

                        @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2022:

                        Foster has been pretty clear that a big reason for Karl over Ethan is they play Ireland 3 times then the Boks 2 times in their first 5 tests.

                        They already have 2 relative newbies at loosehead (Bower, Ross) - they didn't want a 3rd and see Karl as the strongest scrummaging loosehead in NZ.

                        It's very clear Ethan will come into the picture once Karl is off.

                        Not having a go at you, but that implies that Karl is the winning and losing of the series, as we don't have good enough looseheads behind him. That won't change if the next set of players don't get to play against the best scrummagers this year, rather than next. It also means that he has hitched his ride to Moody. It's nice to be old in the current ABs, you can have a guaranteed spot even if you're on the decline.

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                        @gt12 said in All Blacks 2022:

                        @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2022:

                        Foster has been pretty clear that a big reason for Karl over Ethan is they play Ireland 3 times then the Boks 2 times in their first 5 tests.

                        They already have 2 relative newbies at loosehead (Bower, Ross) - they didn't want a 3rd and see Karl as the strongest scrummaging loosehead in NZ.

                        It's very clear Ethan will come into the picture once Karl is off.

                        Not having a go at you, but that implies that Karl is the winning and losing of the series, as we don't have good enough looseheads behind him. That won't change if the next set of players don't get to play against the best scrummagers this year, rather than next. It also means that he has hitched his ride to Moody. It's nice to be old in the current ABs, you can have a guaranteed spot even if you're on the decline.

                        Don’t tell the poster formerly known as Redbeard or all these other so called hard men on here that props aren’t the difference… 😉

                        I don’t think it implies that at all. My guess is that they’ve done an assessment of what they’ve seen in Super rugby and balanced that up with what they know about the Irish and said we can’t have 3 greenish looseheads so we need one experienced one involved.

                        Some will say that’s a pox on development or just a cattle issue or just an unfortunate thing with our frontline loosehead out. That can be debated, but I don’t think it’s unreasonable to have an experienced guy in the mix. How much he plays will be interesting.

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                        • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                          “Ethan de Groot turned [Ofa] Tuungafasi inside out the other week, and then they turn around and say he's not fit enough.

                          "What the hell have their so-called trainers been doing all year, keeping in touch with these players??

                          Add Loe to the list of punters waiting in the wings for the ABs to fail to justify his opinion.

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                          @ACT-Crusader Or maybe he knows a thing or two about the tight five and their past performances and can see the impotence of this present coaching staff.

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                          • KirwanK Kirwan

                            @FakatavaAllBlack said in All Blacks 2022:

                            with Lord unfortunately gone for the season, Tom Robinson might eventually earn his way into ABs camp maybe🤔

                            Seems strange not to replace Lord, even with a lock. Surely it's worth looking at someone?

                            Adding Robinson would at least put pressure on Vaai to perform as the lock/blindside and give an option to replace him if he gets injured.

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                            @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:

                            @FakatavaAllBlack said in All Blacks 2022:

                            with Lord unfortunately gone for the season, Tom Robinson might eventually earn his way into ABs camp maybe🤔

                            Seems strange not to replace Lord, even with a lock. Surely it's worth looking at someone?

                            Adding Robinson would at least put pressure on Vaai to perform as the lock/blindside and give an option to replace him if he gets injured.

                            There’s quite a bit in the Players agreement around being named in the first squad of the season. If they really needed someone else they would call them in but it does complicate things slightly

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                            • BovidaeB Bovidae

                              Bummer. The early prognosis was 2-3 weeks.

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                              @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:

                              Bummer. The early prognosis was 2-3 weeks.

                              The 'good' news is that if it hadn't been for scans he'd have played on and probably buggered it properly.

                              I imagine he'll make a full recovery.

                              No replacement.

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                                Bummer - One of the players we REALLY needed to develop.

                                Possible replacements
                                Tom Robinson - but seems too light.
                                Josh Goodhue.
                                Josh Dickson
                                (actually liked the look of Zach Gallagher too)

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                                • F Frank

                                  Bummer - One of the players we REALLY needed to develop.

                                  Possible replacements
                                  Tom Robinson - but seems too light.
                                  Josh Goodhue.
                                  Josh Dickson
                                  (actually liked the look of Zach Gallagher too)

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                                  @Frank

                                  Josh Dickson would be a long shot i think, in saying that whilst i dont think he's really one to develop anymore being 27, he has developed a bit of mongrel in the least couple of seasons which i dont hate

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                                  • KirwanK Kirwan

                                    @FakatavaAllBlack said in All Blacks 2022:

                                    with Lord unfortunately gone for the season, Tom Robinson might eventually earn his way into ABs camp maybe🤔

                                    Seems strange not to replace Lord, even with a lock. Surely it's worth looking at someone?

                                    Adding Robinson would at least put pressure on Vaai to perform as the lock/blindside and give an option to replace him if he gets injured.

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                                    @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:

                                    @FakatavaAllBlack said in All Blacks 2022:

                                    with Lord unfortunately gone for the season, Tom Robinson might eventually earn his way into ABs camp maybe🤔

                                    Seems strange not to replace Lord

                                    Fozzie ruling Quinten out specifically? 🙂

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                                      Amusing how the social media post says no replacement to be named, yet I expect Tom and a few others now have hundreds of notifications of people tagging them as options...

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                                        Perhaps if Tom tears it up in the grand final, then he might be named? Nah, probably not.

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                                        • F Frank

                                          Bummer - One of the players we REALLY needed to develop.

                                          Possible replacements
                                          Tom Robinson - but seems too light.
                                          Josh Goodhue.
                                          Josh Dickson
                                          (actually liked the look of Zach Gallagher too)

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                                          #3054

                                          @Frank said in All Blacks 2022:

                                          Bummer - One of the players we REALLY needed to develop.

                                          Possible replacements
                                          Tom Robinson - but seems too light.
                                          Josh Goodhue.
                                          Josh Dickson
                                          (actually liked the look of Zach Gallagher too)

                                          @AllBlacks said in social media

                                          This rules Josh out for the rest of the All Blacks 2022 season. At this stage the All Blacks will not be bringing in a replacement lock.

                                          What you think you know about locks irrelevant

                                          https://tenor.com/bFiDc.gif

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