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  • CrucialC Crucial

    @broughie said in All Blacks 2022:

    @Crucial He obviously is not a moron but he does not create any confidence in how our team will perform. Probably a nice guy but perhaps too nice and we need a ball buster in there. Perhaps the ABs need a stint at the Roach Motel with an occasional piece of raw meat thrown their way. Is it just me or are the ABs suffering from corporate niceness? Too much feel good moments and interactions?

    See, this is the kind of odd comment that I'm talking about. What do you or I know about the players needs and how to get the best out of them? Do we know what goes on in camp? How players are treated or how expectations are communicated? I certainly don't.
    It just smacks of 'back in my day' type rubbish.
    One of the keys to the recent golden era was the change in treatment of players, leadership and communication. I doubt very much that going back to Laurie and Grizz would do anything except appease talkback callers for a moment of two.

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    @Crucial that’s one opinion. Of course we don’t know what happens behind the scene but you don’t always have to be on the inside to know that things are not working right. I don’t have to work for Joe Biden to know he a complete buffoon. I judge him by his results. Same with Fosters ABs. Hope he proves me wrong.

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    • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

      @chimoaus said in All Blacks 2022:

      Not replacing Lord is just stupid, give someone time in the environment that could be there next year. If I was Lord I would wonder if there was any point to me being there if they not replacing me. Robinson is the clear replacement as someone who has the skillset and would benefit from time. Robinson feels like Akira with shag to me.

      By not replacing Lord, perhaps Foster has decided it's an opportunity to give Vaa'i more game time? Don't forget he's been slagged off for not giving in-form players enough game time or not throwing them in the deep end

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      @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2022:

      @chimoaus said in All Blacks 2022:

      Not replacing Lord is just stupid, give someone time in the environment that could be there next year. If I was Lord I would wonder if there was any point to me being there if they not replacing me. Robinson is the clear replacement as someone who has the skillset and would benefit from time. Robinson feels like Akira with shag to me.

      By not replacing Lord, perhaps Foster has decided it's an opportunity to give Vaa'i more game time? Don't forget he's been slagged off for not giving in-form players enough game time or not throwing them in the deep end

      I think if Foster found a cure for cancer he’d be slagged off for not finding a cure for another illness….

      Not replacing an injured player before a series starts isn’t a new thing. Five locks selected for a three test series seemed a little on the generous side any way.

      Lord was in the squad last year and I guess they wanted to give him every opportunity pending further tests/assessments.

      If we need additional cover for the RC then there are a couple of decent locks in the Maori squad that would be match fit.

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      • gt12G gt12

        I wouldn't be surprised if they were waiting to see who pulls up healthy following the final before naming another person.

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        @gt12 said in All Blacks 2022:

        I wouldn't be surprised if they were waiting to see who pulls up healthy following the final before naming another person.

        The final and the Maori match too

        They have enough for the Irish series, just call up someone else for the Championship squad

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        • canefanC canefan

          I just want to see a firm concept or philosophy of play, attention to detail in the skills department, and relatively credible player selection. We just seemed devoid of ideas at crucial times last year

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          @canefan said in All Blacks 2022:

          attention to detail in the skills department

          But again, how do you know that isn't there?

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          • BonesB Bones

            @canefan said in All Blacks 2022:

            attention to detail in the skills department

            But again, how do you know that isn't there?

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            @Bones said in All Blacks 2022:

            @canefan said in All Blacks 2022:

            attention to detail in the skills department

            But again, how do you know that isn't there?

            I'm talking about what I see on the field. It is possible the players aren't executing what they have been instructed to do

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            • number9N number9

              @Crucial no mate that is a criticism of the Coaching staff. This is the All Blacks we are used to winning, we have that culture. Under Foster we have been strategically stupid. Look at what Leon has done with the Blues, with a couple of personnel changes and better coaching he turned the team around. The Blues improves each year, with Foster the ABs have gone backwards over the last 2 seasons.

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              @number9 said in All Blacks 2022:

              The Blues improves each year, with Foster the ABs have gone backwards over the last 2 seasons.

              We've have been going backwards since 2016-7 - long before Foster took over. There's a variety of reasons for that decline , but to blame it all on one man just isn't really a valid argument.

              Yeah he's done some dumb stuff but he's also done some pretty good stuff as well. Just hope we see less of the former and more of the latter this year.

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                #3101

                Well the Blues are proving that Foster is a selecting genius tonight.(apart from Christie)

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                • CrucialC Crucial

                  Well the Blues are proving that Foster is a selecting genius tonight.(apart from Christie)

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                  @Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:

                  Well the Blues are proving that Foster is a selecting genius tonight.(apart from Christie)

                  So who shows foodies genius?

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                  • M Machpants

                    @Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:

                    Well the Blues are proving that Foster is a selecting genius tonight.(apart from Christie)

                    So who shows foodies genius?

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                    @Machpants said in All Blacks 2022:

                    @Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:

                    Well the Blues are proving that Foster is a selecting genius tonight.(apart from Christie)

                    So who shows foodies genius?

                    The non selected players that some considered should have been

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                    • CrucialC Crucial

                      @Machpants said in All Blacks 2022:

                      @Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:

                      Well the Blues are proving that Foster is a selecting genius tonight.(apart from Christie)

                      So who shows foodies genius?

                      The non selected players that some considered should have been

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                      @Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:

                      @Machpants said in All Blacks 2022:

                      @Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:

                      Well the Blues are proving that Foster is a selecting genius tonight.(apart from Christie)

                      So who shows foodies genius?

                      The non selected players that some considered should have been

                      Ah gotcha. Thank God for the SR heroes like havili and mounga, they'll bring to tough physical test matches

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                        Real issues at tighthead.

                        Would be seriously looking at giving Franks a recall. Known quantity and a reliability at set piece, tackle and breakdown. Who cares if he isn't a carrying option. At least we would have the ball to do something with.

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                        • M Machpants

                          @Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:

                          Well the Blues are proving that Foster is a selecting genius tonight.(apart from Christie)

                          So who shows foodies genius?

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                          @Machpants said in All Blacks 2022:

                          @Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:

                          Well the Blues are proving that Foster is a selecting genius tonight.(apart from Christie)

                          So who shows foodies genius?

                          If that's auto replace at work that's genius.

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                          • BonesB Bones

                            @Machpants said in All Blacks 2022:

                            @Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:

                            Well the Blues are proving that Foster is a selecting genius tonight.(apart from Christie)

                            So who shows foodies genius?

                            If that's auto replace at work that's genius.

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                            @Bones said in All Blacks 2022:

                            @Machpants said in All Blacks 2022:

                            @Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:

                            Well the Blues are proving that Foster is a selecting genius tonight.(apart from Christie)

                            So who shows foodies genius?

                            If that's auto replace at work that's genius.

                            It was, I saw it, and left it. Well done GBoard

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                            • F Frye

                              Real issues at tighthead.

                              Would be seriously looking at giving Franks a recall. Known quantity and a reliability at set piece, tackle and breakdown. Who cares if he isn't a carrying option. At least we would have the ball to do something with.

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                              @Frye said in All Blacks 2022:

                              Real issues at tighthead.

                              Ofa's scrum problems were evident again tonight, and he had Romano packing behind him. I think all 3 THs in the AB squad will have been put on notice because I don't expect them all to be at RWC 2023.

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                              • broughieB broughie

                                @Crucial that’s one opinion. Of course we don’t know what happens behind the scene but you don’t always have to be on the inside to know that things are not working right. I don’t have to work for Joe Biden to know he a complete buffoon. I judge him by his results. Same with Fosters ABs. Hope he proves me wrong.

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                                @broughie
                                What a cleverly worked political reference. Is it also your judgement that, if unsubstantiated insults work for Donald Trump, they are fine for a rugby forum?

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                                • F Frye

                                  Real issues at tighthead.

                                  Would be seriously looking at giving Franks a recall. Known quantity and a reliability at set piece, tackle and breakdown. Who cares if he isn't a carrying option. At least we would have the ball to do something with.

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                                  @Frye said in All Blacks 2022:

                                  Real issues at tighthead.

                                  Would be seriously looking at giving Franks a recall. Known quantity and a reliability at set piece, tackle and breakdown. Who cares if he isn't a carrying option. At least we would have the ball to do something with.

                                  Like your thinking, so something like…

                                  G. Bower
                                  C. Taylor
                                  O. Franks
                                  S. Whitelock
                                  B. Retallick
                                  S. Barrett
                                  T. Chief (capt)
                                  T. Blue
                                  T. Lander
                                  R. Mo’unga
                                  L. Fainga’anuku
                                  D. Havili
                                  J. Goodhue
                                  S. Reece
                                  W. Jordan

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                                  • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                                    @Frye said in All Blacks 2022:

                                    Real issues at tighthead.

                                    Would be seriously looking at giving Franks a recall. Known quantity and a reliability at set piece, tackle and breakdown. Who cares if he isn't a carrying option. At least we would have the ball to do something with.

                                    Like your thinking, so something like…

                                    G. Bower
                                    C. Taylor
                                    O. Franks
                                    S. Whitelock
                                    B. Retallick
                                    S. Barrett
                                    T. Chief (capt)
                                    T. Blue
                                    T. Lander
                                    R. Mo’unga
                                    L. Fainga’anuku
                                    D. Havili
                                    J. Goodhue
                                    S. Reece
                                    W. Jordan

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                                    @ACT-Crusader TBF, that side with the right game plan, would be perfectly fine in black

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                                    • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                                      @Frye said in All Blacks 2022:

                                      Real issues at tighthead.

                                      Would be seriously looking at giving Franks a recall. Known quantity and a reliability at set piece, tackle and breakdown. Who cares if he isn't a carrying option. At least we would have the ball to do something with.

                                      Like your thinking, so something like…

                                      G. Bower
                                      C. Taylor
                                      O. Franks
                                      S. Whitelock
                                      B. Retallick
                                      S. Barrett
                                      T. Chief (capt)
                                      T. Blue
                                      T. Lander
                                      R. Mo’unga
                                      L. Fainga’anuku
                                      D. Havili
                                      J. Goodhue
                                      S. Reece
                                      W. Jordan

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                                      @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2022:

                                      G. Bower
                                      C. Taylor
                                      O. Franks
                                      S. Whitelock
                                      B. Retallick
                                      S. Barrett

                                      That worked brilliantly three years ago...

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                                        https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/sam-whitelock-in-doubt-for-all-blacks-after-playing-super-rugby-final-with-broken-thumb/RC6DP5YQISDWLLHSG53GGVSZWA/

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                                          I think Whitelock showed he’s the old lock to keep. Partner him with Barrett and have Vaa’i on the bench.

                                          Brodie as old lock cover in the squad. Need minutes into Vaa’i now and see if he can cover six from then bench at Test level.

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