All Blacks 2022
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@Machpants said in All Blacks 2022:
@Nepia said in All Blacks 2022:
@Dice said in All Blacks 2022:
Cane doesn't really do anything. Ofa just tackles the player into Cane.
But that's not the massive hit Cane did. Why is that one even being debated?
Because that big hit was called as from cane in game and was then mentioned in a lot of press articles in their post match reviews and player ratings.
Could you point out the big hit cane did do?
I'm not going to go back through the footage, but the same one from the side that @Bones mentioned.
@Nepia said in All Blacks 2022:
@Machpants said in All Blacks 2022:
@Nepia said in All Blacks 2022:
@Dice said in All Blacks 2022:
Cane doesn't really do anything. Ofa just tackles the player into Cane.
But that's not the massive hit Cane did. Why is that one even being debated?
Because that big hit was called as from cane in game and was then mentioned in a lot of press articles in their post match reviews and player ratings.
Could you point out the big hit cane did do?
I'm not going to go back through the footage, but the same one from the side that @Bones mentioned.
yeah this is a weird one even for the Fern. Cane absolutely flattens a bloke, i even commented on it in the game thread because i was in teh middle of typing a post about where the fuck our loosies were.
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@Machpants said in All Blacks 2022:
@Nepia said in All Blacks 2022:
@Dice said in All Blacks 2022:
Cane doesn't really do anything. Ofa just tackles the player into Cane.
But that's not the massive hit Cane did. Why is that one even being debated?
Because that big hit was called as from cane in game and was then mentioned in a lot of press articles in their post match reviews and player ratings.
Could you point out the big hit cane did do?
I'm not going to go back through the footage, but the same one from the side that @Bones mentioned.
@Nepia said in All Blacks 2022:
@Machpants said in All Blacks 2022:
@Nepia said in All Blacks 2022:
@Dice said in All Blacks 2022:
Cane doesn't really do anything. Ofa just tackles the player into Cane.
But that's not the massive hit Cane did. Why is that one even being debated?
Because that big hit was called as from cane in game and was then mentioned in a lot of press articles in their post match reviews and player ratings.
Could you point out the big hit cane did do?
I'm not going to go back through the footage, but the same one from the side that @Bones mentioned.
Are you sure that wasn't done by Ofa too?
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@Dice said in All Blacks 2022:
Cane doesn't really do anything. Ofa just tackles the player into Cane.
But that's not the massive hit Cane did. Why is that one even being debated?
@Nepia cane is doing a good job there regardless. If he throws too much intent he risks a card as the guy is well chopped.
Can stays high in the line and helps dislodge the ball. See ardie fades off and looks for the jackal, different intents from 2 inside defenders.
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Sorry for derailing the thread.
Getting back on track - this is a good article that shows the maturing of Rieko - he's come a long way the last couple of years.
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Sorry for derailing the thread.
Getting back on track - this is a good article that shows the maturing of Rieko - he's come a long way the last couple of years.
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2022:
Sorry for derailing the thread.
Getting back on track - this is a good article that shows the maturing of Rieko - he's come a long way the last couple of years.
All very good, but it is his decision making that he really needs to work on. He was behind the errors leading to two Irish tries. As an individual he's awesome, but decisions as 13 needs a lot of work
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@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2022:
Sorry for derailing the thread.
Getting back on track - this is a good article that shows the maturing of Rieko - he's come a long way the last couple of years.
All very good, but it is his decision making that he really needs to work on. He was behind the errors leading to two Irish tries. As an individual he's awesome, but decisions as 13 needs a lot of work
@Machpants said in All Blacks 2022:
He was behind the errors leading to two Irish tries
I'm interested to hear more about this.
The first irish try came from 18 phases and the ABs defence had numbered up correctly.
The second irish try came from Jordie shooting up leaving a slight overlap/gap on the outside.
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@Machpants said in All Blacks 2022:
He was behind the errors leading to two Irish tries
I'm interested to hear more about this.
The first irish try came from 18 phases and the ABs defence had numbered up correctly.
The second irish try came from Jordie shooting up leaving a slight overlap/gap on the outside.
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2022:
@Machpants said in All Blacks 2022:
He was behind the errors leading to two Irish tries
I'm interested to hear more about this.
The first irish try came from 18 phases and the ABs defence had numbered up correctly.
The second irish try came from Jordie shooting up leaving a slight overlap/gap on the outside.
The reasoning behind that comment is pretty clear in this - originally shared by @Machpants in the first test thread
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@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2022:
@Machpants said in All Blacks 2022:
He was behind the errors leading to two Irish tries
I'm interested to hear more about this.
The first irish try came from 18 phases and the ABs defence had numbered up correctly.
The second irish try came from Jordie shooting up leaving a slight overlap/gap on the outside.
The reasoning behind that comment is pretty clear in this - originally shared by @Machpants in the first test thread
@delicatessen said in All Blacks 2022:
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2022:
@Machpants said in All Blacks 2022:
He was behind the errors leading to two Irish tries
I'm interested to hear more about this.
The first irish try came from 18 phases and the ABs defence had numbered up correctly.
The second irish try came from Jordie shooting up leaving a slight overlap/gap on the outside.
The reasoning behind that comment is pretty clear in this - originally shared by @Machpants in the first test thread
Thanks!
Really interesting reading.
I disagree with the comment that Jordie had no choice but to shoot up for the 2nd try given Rieko's speed and ability to close space late. To me that looks like two players first test of the season not used to defending together.
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@delicatessen said in All Blacks 2022:
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2022:
@Machpants said in All Blacks 2022:
He was behind the errors leading to two Irish tries
I'm interested to hear more about this.
The first irish try came from 18 phases and the ABs defence had numbered up correctly.
The second irish try came from Jordie shooting up leaving a slight overlap/gap on the outside.
The reasoning behind that comment is pretty clear in this - originally shared by @Machpants in the first test thread
Thanks!
Really interesting reading.
I disagree with the comment that Jordie had no choice but to shoot up for the 2nd try given Rieko's speed and ability to close space late. To me that looks like two players first test of the season not used to defending together.
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2022:
@delicatessen said in All Blacks 2022:
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2022:
@Machpants said in All Blacks 2022:
He was behind the errors leading to two Irish tries
I'm interested to hear more about this.
The first irish try came from 18 phases and the ABs defence had numbered up correctly.
The second irish try came from Jordie shooting up leaving a slight overlap/gap on the outside.
The reasoning behind that comment is pretty clear in this - originally shared by @Machpants in the first test thread
Thanks!
Really interesting reading.
I disagree with the comment that Jordie had no choice but to shoot up for the 2nd try given Rieko's speed and ability to close space late. To me that looks like two players first test of the season not used to defending together.
Yep you're probably right. It must be a tough line to tread for a high-level rugby player - where's the line between trusting your team-mate to do his job, and stepping in because you trust your own ability?
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@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2022:
@delicatessen said in All Blacks 2022:
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2022:
@Machpants said in All Blacks 2022:
He was behind the errors leading to two Irish tries
I'm interested to hear more about this.
The first irish try came from 18 phases and the ABs defence had numbered up correctly.
The second irish try came from Jordie shooting up leaving a slight overlap/gap on the outside.
The reasoning behind that comment is pretty clear in this - originally shared by @Machpants in the first test thread
Thanks!
Really interesting reading.
I disagree with the comment that Jordie had no choice but to shoot up for the 2nd try given Rieko's speed and ability to close space late. To me that looks like two players first test of the season not used to defending together.
Yep you're probably right. It must be a tough line to tread for a high-level rugby player - where's the line between trusting your team-mate to do his job, and stepping in because you trust your own ability?
@delicatessen said in All Blacks 2022:
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2022:
@delicatessen said in All Blacks 2022:
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2022:
@Machpants said in All Blacks 2022:
He was behind the errors leading to two Irish tries
I'm interested to hear more about this.
The first irish try came from 18 phases and the ABs defence had numbered up correctly.
The second irish try came from Jordie shooting up leaving a slight overlap/gap on the outside.
The reasoning behind that comment is pretty clear in this - originally shared by @Machpants in the first test thread
Thanks!
Really interesting reading.
I disagree with the comment that Jordie had no choice but to shoot up for the 2nd try given Rieko's speed and ability to close space late. To me that looks like two players first test of the season not used to defending together.
Yep you're probably right. It must be a tough line to tread for a high-level rugby player - where's the line between trusting your team-mate to do his job, and stepping in because you trust your own ability?
IMO you ALWAYs trust your team mate, because then if it doesn't happen it is their fault
But really you've got to trust otherwise defensive systems will never work. More tries are given away by players covering someone that they don;t need to but can't help themselves than just leaving it to a team mate who fails
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Stuart is an Ardie fan too.
@Bones said in All Blacks 2022:
Stuart is an Ardie fan too.
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Yay foster, you useless fluffybunny
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In a way I hope we lose next week, lose the Bledisloe and Rugby Championship, it’ll be the only way for us to get a new coach.
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In a way I hope we lose next week, lose the Bledisloe and Rugby Championship, it’ll be the only way for us to get a new coach.
@Gunner said in All Blacks 2022:
In a way I hope we lose next week, lose the Bledisloe and Rugby Championship, it’ll be the only way for us to get a new coach.
Yeah nah. That's pretty abysmal. And won't work anyway.
Even if we got rid of Foster, the next coach is on a hiding to nothing unless we get a caretaker in until after RWC. But I think Eddie isn't available.
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In a way I hope we lose next week, lose the Bledisloe and Rugby Championship, it’ll be the only way for us to get a new coach.
Serious question:
If the new coach doesn't make much of a difference (as has happened before) what should be done then?
How many Bledisloe's and RC's would you want to lose to then get yet another coach?
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In a way I hope we lose next week, lose the Bledisloe and Rugby Championship, it’ll be the only way for us to get a new coach.
@Gunner said in All Blacks 2022:
In a way I hope we lose next week, lose the Bledisloe and Rugby Championship, it’ll be the only way for us to get a new coach.
Nah.
I think we can win next Saturday. Change a few tactics, not all of them because there was some good in amongst all the dropped ball, poor kicks and poor decision making.
A series win against Ireland would do wonders for the confidence of the squad. Nothing for granted and more work needed and all that. But for me that can be a great positive for improvement.
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@Gunner said in All Blacks 2022:
In a way I hope we lose next week, lose the Bledisloe and Rugby Championship, it’ll be the only way for us to get a new coach.
Nah.
I think we can win next Saturday. Change a few tactics, not all of them because there was some good in amongst all the dropped ball, poor kicks and poor decision making.
A series win against Ireland would do wonders for the confidence of the squad. Nothing for granted and more work needed and all that. But for me that can be a great positive for improvement.
@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2022:
@Gunner said in All Blacks 2022:
In a way I hope we lose next week, lose the Bledisloe and Rugby Championship, it’ll be the only way for us to get a new coach.
Nah.
I think we can win next Saturday. Change a few tactics, not all of them because there was some good in amongst all the dropped ball, poor kicks and poor decision making.
A series win against Ireland would do wonders for the confidence of the squad. Nothing for granted and more work needed and all that. But for me that can be a great positive for improvement.
We'll win. I sound like you, but I'm confident that we'll see a response.
Until the next WC, we'll be up and down, then our next coach will have a chance to build a squad for the future.
Paps likely as captain. The key point is identifying the right game drivers now and having them in place - let's hope Fakatava is as good as he looks.
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@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2022:
@Gunner said in All Blacks 2022:
In a way I hope we lose next week, lose the Bledisloe and Rugby Championship, it’ll be the only way for us to get a new coach.
Nah.
I think we can win next Saturday. Change a few tactics, not all of them because there was some good in amongst all the dropped ball, poor kicks and poor decision making.
A series win against Ireland would do wonders for the confidence of the squad. Nothing for granted and more work needed and all that. But for me that can be a great positive for improvement.
We'll win. I sound like you, but I'm confident that we'll see a response.
Until the next WC, we'll be up and down, then our next coach will have a chance to build a squad for the future.
Paps likely as captain. The key point is identifying the right game drivers now and having them in place - let's hope Fakatava is as good as he looks.
@gt12 I have great faith in Fakatava, would be keen to see him start against Argentina & possibly Aussie in the rugby championship, will be interesting to see how long Perofeta has to wait until he's introduced into the test 23
