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All Blacks 2022

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  • bayimportsB bayimports

    @Duluth said in All Blacks 2022:

    @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:

    https://twitter.com/simongleave/status/1547534418838945792?s=21&t=uhKUKbm6dh-mBDJLw1EYgg

    Probably similar to Mains then: 1992-1995

    67.6% without removing the teams outside the top 10

    If you do 1992-1994 (a year out from the RWC like this coaching group is) Mains percentage was 59.1% (without removing those teams outside the top 10)

    nice work @Duluth which is probably why the author left that out.. interestingly though Laurie did get us to the 95 WRC final, but none of us see Fozzy doing that

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    @bayimports said in All Blacks 2022:

    @Duluth said in All Blacks 2022:

    @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:

    https://twitter.com/simongleave/status/1547534418838945792?s=21&t=uhKUKbm6dh-mBDJLw1EYgg

    Probably similar to Mains then: 1992-1995

    67.6% without removing the teams outside the top 10

    If you do 1992-1994 (a year out from the RWC like this coaching group is) Mains percentage was 59.1% (without removing those teams outside the top 10)

    nice work @Duluth which is probably why the author left that out.. interestingly though Laurie did get us to the 95 WRC final, but none of us see Fozzy doing that

    I'd say the author is focusing on the professional era which is a fair point to draw the line in terms of how far back he goes. Foster is by a country mile our worst coach in that era, and it's not even close.

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    • KirwanK Kirwan

      https://twitter.com/simongleave/status/1547534418838945792?s=21&t=uhKUKbm6dh-mBDJLw1EYgg

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      @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:

      https://twitter.com/simongleave/status/1547534418838945792?s=21&t=uhKUKbm6dh-mBDJLw1EYgg

      Can't upvote that.

      Fully onboard with clearing out the coaches though.

      If I'm honest, it's Mooar who needs to go. I honestly believe that our attack the heart of the problem. The defense sucks too, but our attack is worse.

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      • gt12G gt12

        @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:

        https://twitter.com/simongleave/status/1547534418838945792?s=21&t=uhKUKbm6dh-mBDJLw1EYgg

        Can't upvote that.

        Fully onboard with clearing out the coaches though.

        If I'm honest, it's Mooar who needs to go. I honestly believe that our attack the heart of the problem. The defense sucks too, but our attack is worse.

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        @gt12 Schmidt fixed the Blues attack this year, an obvious solution there.

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        • KirwanK Kirwan

          @gt12 Schmidt fixed the Blues attack this year, an obvious solution there.

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          #3437

          @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:

          @gt12 Schmidt fixed the Blues attack this year, an obvious solution there.

          Makes the photo above even more powerful. They should never have brought him (Moaar) back, he had zero record of success.

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          • gt12G gt12

            @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:

            @gt12 Schmidt fixed the Blues attack this year, an obvious solution there.

            Makes the photo above even more powerful. They should never have brought him (Moaar) back, he had zero record of success.

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            @gt12 said in All Blacks 2022:

            @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:

            @gt12 Schmidt fixed the Blues attack this year, an obvious solution there.

            Makes the photo above even more powerful. They should never have brought him (Moaar) back, he had zero record of success.

            Same with Plumtree really.

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            • KirwanK Kirwan

              @gt12 said in All Blacks 2022:

              @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:

              @gt12 Schmidt fixed the Blues attack this year, an obvious solution there.

              Makes the photo above even more powerful. They should never have brought him (Moaar) back, he had zero record of success.

              Same with Plumtree really.

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              @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:

              @gt12 said in All Blacks 2022:

              @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:

              @gt12 Schmidt fixed the Blues attack this year, an obvious solution there.

              Makes the photo above even more powerful. They should never have brought him (Moaar) back, he had zero record of success.

              Same with Plumtree really.

              Don’t get me wrong, they’re all weak by international standards, but Mooar jumps out as a picking winners from zero form selection. Should never have been in the conversation.

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              • gt12G gt12

                @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:

                @gt12 said in All Blacks 2022:

                @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:

                @gt12 Schmidt fixed the Blues attack this year, an obvious solution there.

                Makes the photo above even more powerful. They should never have brought him (Moaar) back, he had zero record of success.

                Same with Plumtree really.

                Don’t get me wrong, they’re all weak by international standards, but Mooar jumps out as a picking winners from zero form selection. Should never have been in the conversation.

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                @gt12 said in All Blacks 2022:

                @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:

                @gt12 said in All Blacks 2022:

                @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:

                @gt12 Schmidt fixed the Blues attack this year, an obvious solution there.

                Makes the photo above even more powerful. They should never have brought him (Moaar) back, he had zero record of success.

                Same with Plumtree really.

                Don’t get me wrong, they’re all weak by international standards, but Mooar jumps out as a picking winners from zero form selection. Should never have been in the conversation.

                Yep, only guy I can think of who "seemed" to come from nowhere over the last few years (ok probably more than a decade) was Cron, but he had the results to back him up I imagine. I have zero knowledge about Mooar's past and regularly forget he's even a coach until his name pops up on here.

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                • gt12G gt12

                  @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:

                  @gt12 Schmidt fixed the Blues attack this year, an obvious solution there.

                  Makes the photo above even more powerful. They should never have brought him (Moaar) back, he had zero record of success.

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                  #3441

                  @gt12 said in All Blacks 2022:

                  @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:

                  @gt12 Schmidt fixed the Blues attack this year, an obvious solution there.

                  Makes the photo above even more powerful. They should never have brought him (Moaar) back, he had zero record of success.

                  Not saying I think he should be an assistant AB coach, but how do we know he's not good? Apart from hindsight of course. I am probably wrong, but I don't recall anyone bemoaning his appointment until someone on here said Robertson didn't rate him.

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                  • Crazy HorseC Crazy Horse

                    @gt12 said in All Blacks 2022:

                    @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:

                    @gt12 Schmidt fixed the Blues attack this year, an obvious solution there.

                    Makes the photo above even more powerful. They should never have brought him (Moaar) back, he had zero record of success.

                    Not saying I think he should be an assistant AB coach, but how do we know he's not good? Apart from hindsight of course. I am probably wrong, but I don't recall anyone bemoaning his appointment until someone on here said Robertson didn't rate him.

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                    #3442

                    @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2022:

                    @gt12 said in All Blacks 2022:

                    @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:

                    @gt12 Schmidt fixed the Blues attack this year, an obvious solution there.

                    Makes the photo above even more powerful. They should never have brought him (Moaar) back, he had zero record of success.

                    Not saying I think he should be an assistant AB coach, but how do we know he's not good? Apart from hindsight of course. I am probably wrong, but I don't recall anyone bemoaning his appointment until someone on here said Robertson didn't rate him.

                    See here, here, here, and here

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                    • gt12G gt12

                      @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2022:

                      @gt12 said in All Blacks 2022:

                      @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:

                      @gt12 Schmidt fixed the Blues attack this year, an obvious solution there.

                      Makes the photo above even more powerful. They should never have brought him (Moaar) back, he had zero record of success.

                      Not saying I think he should be an assistant AB coach, but how do we know he's not good? Apart from hindsight of course. I am probably wrong, but I don't recall anyone bemoaning his appointment until someone on here said Robertson didn't rate him.

                      See here, here, here, and here

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                      #3443

                      @gt12 said in All Blacks 2022:

                      @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2022:

                      @gt12 said in All Blacks 2022:

                      @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:

                      @gt12 Schmidt fixed the Blues attack this year, an obvious solution there.

                      Makes the photo above even more powerful. They should never have brought him (Moaar) back, he had zero record of success.

                      Not saying I think he should be an assistant AB coach, but how do we know he's not good? Apart from hindsight of course. I am probably wrong, but I don't recall anyone bemoaning his appointment until someone on here said Robertson didn't rate him.

                      See here, here, here, and here

                      Cheers. Sort of recalled @Chris but not the others.

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                      • Crazy HorseC Crazy Horse

                        @gt12 said in All Blacks 2022:

                        @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2022:

                        @gt12 said in All Blacks 2022:

                        @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:

                        @gt12 Schmidt fixed the Blues attack this year, an obvious solution there.

                        Makes the photo above even more powerful. They should never have brought him (Moaar) back, he had zero record of success.

                        Not saying I think he should be an assistant AB coach, but how do we know he's not good? Apart from hindsight of course. I am probably wrong, but I don't recall anyone bemoaning his appointment until someone on here said Robertson didn't rate him.

                        See here, here, here, and here

                        Cheers. Sort of recalled @Chris but not the others.

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                        #3444

                        @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2022:

                        @gt12 said in All Blacks 2022:

                        @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2022:

                        @gt12 said in All Blacks 2022:

                        @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:

                        @gt12 Schmidt fixed the Blues attack this year, an obvious solution there.

                        Makes the photo above even more powerful. They should never have brought him (Moaar) back, he had zero record of success.

                        Not saying I think he should be an assistant AB coach, but how do we know he's not good? Apart from hindsight of course. I am probably wrong, but I don't recall anyone bemoaning his appointment until someone on here said Robertson didn't rate him.

                        See here, here, here, and here

                        Cheers. Sort of recalled @Chris but not the others.

                        @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2022:

                        @gt12 said in All Blacks 2022:

                        @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2022:

                        @gt12 said in All Blacks 2022:

                        @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:

                        @gt12 Schmidt fixed the Blues attack this year, an obvious solution there.

                        Makes the photo above even more powerful. They should never have brought him (Moaar) back, he had zero record of success.

                        Not saying I think he should be an assistant AB coach, but how do we know he's not good? Apart from hindsight of course. I am probably wrong, but I don't recall anyone bemoaning his appointment until someone on here said Robertson didn't rate him.

                        See here, here, here, and here

                        Cheers. Sort of recalled @Chris but not the others.

                        I heard he didn’t fit into the Crusaders to well and Razor wanted to move him on.
                        Although a couple of the backs did speak highly of him.

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                        • ChrisC Chris

                          @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2022:

                          @gt12 said in All Blacks 2022:

                          @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2022:

                          @gt12 said in All Blacks 2022:

                          @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:

                          @gt12 Schmidt fixed the Blues attack this year, an obvious solution there.

                          Makes the photo above even more powerful. They should never have brought him (Moaar) back, he had zero record of success.

                          Not saying I think he should be an assistant AB coach, but how do we know he's not good? Apart from hindsight of course. I am probably wrong, but I don't recall anyone bemoaning his appointment until someone on here said Robertson didn't rate him.

                          See here, here, here, and here

                          Cheers. Sort of recalled @Chris but not the others.

                          @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2022:

                          @gt12 said in All Blacks 2022:

                          @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2022:

                          @gt12 said in All Blacks 2022:

                          @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:

                          @gt12 Schmidt fixed the Blues attack this year, an obvious solution there.

                          Makes the photo above even more powerful. They should never have brought him (Moaar) back, he had zero record of success.

                          Not saying I think he should be an assistant AB coach, but how do we know he's not good? Apart from hindsight of course. I am probably wrong, but I don't recall anyone bemoaning his appointment until someone on here said Robertson didn't rate him.

                          See here, here, here, and here

                          Cheers. Sort of recalled @Chris but not the others.

                          I heard he didn’t fit into the Crusaders to well and Razor wanted to move him on.
                          Although a couple of the backs did speak highly of him.

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                          @Chris could pass as George Bridge's older brother

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                          • TorianT Torian

                            @Chris could pass as George Bridge's older brother

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                            @FakatavaAllBlack said in All Blacks 2022:

                            @Chris could pass as George Bridge's older brother

                            Maybe on looks but far apart in personality.

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                            • TimT Away
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                              https://twitter.com/paulcullystuff/status/1548193963995066369?s=20&t=agDskuiK27aNCDnXkKr0aQ

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                              • TimT Tim

                                https://twitter.com/paulcullystuff/status/1548193963995066369?s=20&t=agDskuiK27aNCDnXkKr0aQ

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                                @Tim

                                Strange choice for a new coach, but I’m prepared to give him a go.

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                                • TimT Tim

                                  https://twitter.com/paulcullystuff/status/1548193963995066369?s=20&t=agDskuiK27aNCDnXkKr0aQ

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                                  @Tim said in All Blacks 2022:

                                  https://twitter.com/paulcullystuff/status/1548193963995066369?s=20&t=agDskuiK27aNCDnXkKr0aQ

                                  Will he accept the call though? Might recognise a sinking ship…

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                                    You know what's irked me, seeing true blue kiwis absolutely dining out on beating their own country. I can't even greatly enjoy a win over an old club, I'll be fucked if I'm all glee and rainbows at beating the ABs.

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                                    • BonesB Bones

                                      You know what's irked me, seeing true blue kiwis absolutely dining out on beating their own country. I can't even greatly enjoy a win over an old club, I'll be fucked if I'm all glee and rainbows at beating the ABs.

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                                      @Bones said in All Blacks 2022:

                                      You know what's irked me, seeing true blue kiwis absolutely dining out on beating their own country. I can't even greatly enjoy a win over an old club, I'll be fucked if I'm all glee and rainbows at beating the ABs.

                                      I suppose they were “rejected” by NZ and been a raging success in Ireland. How Francis saili got selected ahead of Aki, I’ll never know. A black mark for Hansen there.

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                                      • Billy TellB Billy Tell

                                        @Bones said in All Blacks 2022:

                                        You know what's irked me, seeing true blue kiwis absolutely dining out on beating their own country. I can't even greatly enjoy a win over an old club, I'll be fucked if I'm all glee and rainbows at beating the ABs.

                                        I suppose they were “rejected” by NZ and been a raging success in Ireland. How Francis saili got selected ahead of Aki, I’ll never know. A black mark for Hansen there.

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                                        #3452

                                        @Billy-Tell said in All Blacks 2022:

                                        @Bones said in All Blacks 2022:

                                        You know what's irked me, seeing true blue kiwis absolutely dining out on beating their own country. I can't even greatly enjoy a win over an old club, I'll be fucked if I'm all glee and rainbows at beating the ABs.

                                        I suppose they were “rejected” by NZ and been a raging success in Ireland. How Francis saili got selected ahead of Aki, I’ll never know. A black mark for Hansen there.

                                        Aki never gave it a chance. Had a good season then buggered off.

                                        Edit: to me he's the equivalent of TUJ, but he was nowhere near as good as those ahead of him.

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                                        • BonesB Bones

                                          You know what's irked me, seeing true blue kiwis absolutely dining out on beating their own country. I can't even greatly enjoy a win over an old club, I'll be fucked if I'm all glee and rainbows at beating the ABs.

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