All Blacks 2022

[Chris]

@crucial said in All Blacks 2022:

Can someone please remind me what side Ainsley plays on.

TH

[Crucial]

@chris said in All Blacks 2022:

@crucial said in All Blacks 2022:

Can someone please remind me what side Ainsley plays on.

TH

Cheers. Just surprised he wasn't being mentioned

[Kiwiwomble]

@kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2022:

lets not forget Ainsley is available now (i think) and playing well

@crucial said in All Blacks 2022:

@chris said in All Blacks 2022:

@crucial said in All Blacks 2022:

Can someone please remind me what side Ainsley plays on.

TH

Cheers. Just surprised he wasn't being mentioned

me too.....

[Crucial]

Think S. Mafileo comes into the discussion as well.

[Dan54]

@old-samurai-jack said in All Blacks 2022:

@dan54 All Blacks have been poor, especially since 2020. Ireland are a better team. There is no negativity in that statement, it is what it is. Wouldn't an arrogant NZ supporter believe we will win in June? I just can't believe the articles in NZ surprised that Six Nations is faster and more physical than Super rugby etc, etc. NZ supporters do kind of live in a bubble if they think the ABs are still a world force. They potentially can be of course but.....some deep thinking and changes are needed.

No you misunderstood what was said, to say ABs lost against France etc because they are poor is arrogant and not giving France Ireland credit, which is arrogant. Sometimes other teams are just better. ABs won RC etc last years, so I guess if a poor team won that you are saying the Wallabies, Pumas and Boks are pretty crap. That is what Crowley is talking about, so called fans that just rubbish own team because they are beaten by a better team is arrogance!
And of course we can still want the ABs to win against Irish, I want them to beat Boks,etc etc too, but if another team beats them by playing as well as Irish etc have, I will accept it! Irish also beat everyone else apart from France, does that make everyone poor?

[Tim]

@crucial If you think our current tight heads are limited, then what the hell would you want Mafileo in the ABs for? He may be a Harbour legend, but he is there to scrum and nothing else.

[Chris]

@crucial said in All Blacks 2022:

@chris said in All Blacks 2022:

@crucial said in All Blacks 2022:

Can someone please remind me what side Ainsley plays on.

TH

Cheers. Just surprised he wasn't being mentioned

he is around Moodey's age maybe its that.

[Kiwiwomble]

@chris said in All Blacks 2022:

@crucial said in All Blacks 2022:

@chris said in All Blacks 2022:

@crucial said in All Blacks 2022:

Can someone please remind me what side Ainsley plays on.

TH

Cheers. Just surprised he wasn't being mentioned

he is around Moodey's age maybe its that.

moody is 33 and ainsley is 26.....

[KiwiMurph]

@chris said in All Blacks 2022:

@crucial said in All Blacks 2022:

@chris said in All Blacks 2022:

@crucial said in All Blacks 2022:

Can someone please remind me what side Ainsley plays on.

TH

Cheers. Just surprised he wasn't being mentioned

he is around Moodey's age maybe its that.

Joe Moody is 33

Ainsley is 26

[Chris]

@kiwimurph said in All Blacks 2022:

@chris said in All Blacks 2022:

@crucial said in All Blacks 2022:

@chris said in All Blacks 2022:

@crucial said in All Blacks 2022:

Can someone please remind me what side Ainsley plays on.

TH

Cheers. Just surprised he wasn't being mentioned

he is around Moodey's age maybe its that.

Joe Moody is 33

Ainsley is 26

Wow for some reason I thought he was in his 30's

[Kiwiwomble]

@chris he was real young when he got his wallaby caps

[Chris]

@kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2022:

@chris he was real young when he got his wallaby caps

He must have been, he has was in Aussie for a while I assumed he was a lot older.

[Kiwiwomble]

@chris actually he was 22-23 so not as young as i thought, 2018

[Crucial]

@tim said in All Blacks 2022:

@crucial If you think our current tight heads are limited, then what the hell would you want Mafileo in the ABs for? He may be a Harbour legend, but he is there to scrum and nothing else.

I said he enters the discussion.
If the plan is to have a scrummager first and foremost then he's an option and possibly a better investment for next year than Laulala.

[Crucial]

So when discussing players there is little expectation or demand for change from what I can see.
Does that mean we except who we have?
Question to ask then is whether things really are the fault of the coaches or is it the cattle they are working with?
Think about it, we often see coaches obviously frustrated that the players aren't doing what they want or aren't executing under pressure.
I totally agree that overcoming those aspects is part of coaching but there must also be times where the coaching staff feel they have set the team up for a win only for a dumb penalty or a dropped ball by a player has derailed the mission.

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[Tim]

@duluth said in All Blacks 2022:

@crucial said in All Blacks 2022:

Don't we have a Fozzie thread somewhere?
Can we get this one back to discussing the 2022 ABs?

Yes

All off topic posts will get deleted after this one. It's the same 3-4 posters that want every thread to be about one topic. It crowds out the good conversation

[Billy Tell]

I’m less worried about our starting props then our bench. Karl T was fairly dreadful last year for example. If we select exactly the same props as 2021 then that will be ominous.