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  • BonesB Bones

    Perofeta. Great passing game, great short game. Combination with Christie and works brilliantly with the quick ball Smith would provide too. Get him in.

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    @bones from butcher boy while at high school to eventually cracking the AB's , Perofeta would be living the Waisake dream

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      So what would a startimg 15 look like right now, with our injuries.

      Any surprises?

      Moody, Samsoni, Hodgman
      BBBR, Vaai
      Blackadder, Ardie, Cane
      Smith, Mounga
      Havili, ALB
      Reece, Jordan, Jordie

      Buggar all changes really with a few injuries and pending holidays...obviously a 'what should the 15 be' would have a few changes I expect.

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      • BonesB Bones

        Perofeta. Great passing game, great short game. Combination with Christie and works brilliantly with the quick ball Smith would provide too. Get him in.

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        @bones said in All Blacks 2022:

        Perofeta. Great passing game, great short game. Combination with Christie and works brilliantly with the quick ball Smith would provide too. Get him in.

        At the very least he’s a clear third choice that’s worth a look at the next level. After that clutch kick, his goal kicking has been disappointing but the rest of his game has been great. All the time in the world.

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        • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

          So what would a startimg 15 look like right now, with our injuries.

          Any surprises?

          Moody, Samsoni, Hodgman
          BBBR, Vaai
          Blackadder, Ardie, Cane
          Smith, Mounga
          Havili, ALB
          Reece, Jordan, Jordie

          Buggar all changes really with a few injuries and pending holidays...obviously a 'what should the 15 be' would have a few changes I expect.

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          @taniwharugby Scott Barrett at lock, instead of Vaa'i (who doesn't even play there, at the moment).

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          • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

            So what would a startimg 15 look like right now, with our injuries.

            Any surprises?

            Moody, Samsoni, Hodgman
            BBBR, Vaai
            Blackadder, Ardie, Cane
            Smith, Mounga
            Havili, ALB
            Reece, Jordan, Jordie

            Buggar all changes really with a few injuries and pending holidays...obviously a 'what should the 15 be' would have a few changes I expect.

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            @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2022:

            So what would a startimg 15 look like right now, with our injuries.

            Any surprises?

            Moody, Samsoni, Hodgman

            Both LHs.

            If, hypothetically, JB is used at 12 and Jordan goes to fullback, then Ioane might have to move to the right wing again. There are more options for a power left winger than right wingers.

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            • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

              So what would a startimg 15 look like right now, with our injuries.

              Any surprises?

              Moody, Samsoni, Hodgman
              BBBR, Vaai
              Blackadder, Ardie, Cane
              Smith, Mounga
              Havili, ALB
              Reece, Jordan, Jordie

              Buggar all changes really with a few injuries and pending holidays...obviously a 'what should the 15 be' would have a few changes I expect.

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              @taniwharugby ALB was remarkably slow against the Crusaders. He's too slow to be centre - can't take a break.

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              • BovidaeB Bovidae

                @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2022:

                So what would a startimg 15 look like right now, with our injuries.

                Any surprises?

                Moody, Samsoni, Hodgman

                Both LHs.

                If, hypothetically, JB is used at 12 and Jordan goes to fullback, then Ioane might have to move to the right wing again. There are more options for a power left winger than right wingers.

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                @bovidae ioane is injured right now isn't he?

                @Stargazer knew I was forgetting someone

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                • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                  @bovidae ioane is injured right now isn't he?

                  @Stargazer knew I was forgetting someone

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                  @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2022:

                  @bovidae ioane is injured right now isn't he?

                  @Stargazer knew I was forgetting someone

                  RI is in an AB break, not injured.

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                  • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                    @bovidae ioane is injured right now isn't he?

                    @Stargazer knew I was forgetting someone

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                    @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2022:

                    @bovidae ioane is injured right now isn't he?

                    Rieko isn't.

                    If you are only selecting fit players as of now, scratch BBBR too.

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                    • KirwanK Kirwan

                      @bones said in All Blacks 2022:

                      Perofeta. Great passing game, great short game. Combination with Christie and works brilliantly with the quick ball Smith would provide too. Get him in.

                      At the very least he’s a clear third choice that’s worth a look at the next level. After that clutch kick, his goal kicking has been disappointing but the rest of his game has been great. All the time in the world.

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                      @kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:

                      @bones said in All Blacks 2022:

                      Perofeta. Great passing game, great short game. Combination with Christie and works brilliantly with the quick ball Smith would provide too. Get him in.

                      At the very least he’s a clear third choice that’s worth a look at the next level. After that clutch kick, his goal kicking has been disappointing but the rest of his game has been great. All the time in the world.

                      I like him but I honestly can't recall him getting too many opportunities to show what he can do against the better teams. Hopefully he gets the chance soon.

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                      • BovidaeB Bovidae

                        @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2022:

                        @bovidae ioane is injured right now isn't he?

                        Rieko isn't.

                        If you are only selecting fit players as of now, scratch BBBR too.

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                        @bovidae I thought Ioane was, didn't realise BBBR was.

                        So then is Vaai and SB locking then...

                        I'd push ALB to 12 and Ioane to 13 then.

                        Would like to find a spot for Leicester, but can't see him pushing out Reece/Ioane/Jordie or even Bridge 😕 for a wing spot.

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                        • Crazy HorseC Crazy Horse

                          @kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:

                          @bones said in All Blacks 2022:

                          Perofeta. Great passing game, great short game. Combination with Christie and works brilliantly with the quick ball Smith would provide too. Get him in.

                          At the very least he’s a clear third choice that’s worth a look at the next level. After that clutch kick, his goal kicking has been disappointing but the rest of his game has been great. All the time in the world.

                          I like him but I honestly can't recall him getting too many opportunities to show what he can do against the better teams. Hopefully he gets the chance soon.

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                          @crazy-horse really? He's been extremely impressive every outing if you ask me - with the bonus being he often plays flat and/or on the move, not deep and static.

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                          • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                            @bovidae I thought Ioane was, didn't realise BBBR was.

                            So then is Vaai and SB locking then...

                            I'd push ALB to 12 and Ioane to 13 then.

                            Would like to find a spot for Leicester, but can't see him pushing out Reece/Ioane/Jordie or even Bridge 😕 for a wing spot.

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                            @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2022:

                            I'd push ALB to 12 and Ioane to 13 then.

                            Wouldn't be surprised to see Foster give Havili one more run-out at 12 to see how he goes, after hopefully working n his game, and then go for that option if it doesn't work out. Reiko then has enough time to settle in at 13 before RWC2023.

                            We'd really be screwed if we didn't have ALB available at 12 or 13.

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                            • BonesB Bones

                              @crazy-horse really? He's been extremely impressive every outing if you ask me - with the bonus being he often plays flat and/or on the move, not deep and static.

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                              @bones said in All Blacks 2022:

                              @crazy-horse really? He's been extremely impressive every outing if you ask me - with the bonus being he often plays flat and/or on the move, not deep and static.

                              Agree, I enjoy watching him play. I just think it would be good to see him start at 10 against the better teams. I stand to be corrected but my memory tells me he has mostly been at 15, with a change to 10 later in the game (MP aside).

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                              • Crazy HorseC Crazy Horse

                                @bones said in All Blacks 2022:

                                @crazy-horse really? He's been extremely impressive every outing if you ask me - with the bonus being he often plays flat and/or on the move, not deep and static.

                                Agree, I enjoy watching him play. I just think it would be good to see him start at 10 against the better teams. I stand to be corrected but my memory tells me he has mostly been at 15, with a change to 10 later in the game (MP aside).

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                                @crazy-horse He definitely needs to demonstrate game management against better good teams. That said, he seems to have improved at 10 this year.

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                                  @crazy-horse He definitely needs to demonstrate game management against better good teams. That said, he seems to have improved at 10 this year.

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                                  @tim said in All Blacks 2022:

                                  he seems to have improved at 10 this year.

                                  Out of sight IMO. Not sure I've spammed this thread with it yet, so I'll say again he's the new Cruden.

                                  I love how predictive wrote that last bit for me.

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                                  • Crazy HorseC Crazy Horse

                                    @bones said in All Blacks 2022:

                                    @crazy-horse really? He's been extremely impressive every outing if you ask me - with the bonus being he often plays flat and/or on the move, not deep and static.

                                    Agree, I enjoy watching him play. I just think it would be good to see him start at 10 against the better teams. I stand to be corrected but my memory tells me he has mostly been at 15, with a change to 10 later in the game (MP aside).

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                                    @crazy-horse yeah would be good to see him do it against the chiefs and hurricanes too

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                                      I don't have access to NZ Herald subscription, but who are the players Gregor Paul is referring to here; https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/gregor-paul-two-young-players-a-beacon-of-hope-for-all-blacks-rugby-world-cup-chances/DCH4A7E7GAUNNGW2KLLNPYWRVM/

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                                      • number9N number9

                                        I don't have access to NZ Herald subscription, but who are the players Gregor Paul is referring to here; https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/gregor-paul-two-young-players-a-beacon-of-hope-for-all-blacks-rugby-world-cup-chances/DCH4A7E7GAUNNGW2KLLNPYWRVM/

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                                        @number9 said in All Blacks 2022:

                                        I don't have access to NZ Herald subscription, but who are the players Gregor Paul is referring to here; https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/gregor-paul-two-young-players-a-beacon-of-hope-for-all-blacks-rugby-world-cup-chances/DCH4A7E7GAUNNGW2KLLNPYWRVM/

                                        Fletcher Newell and Ethan de Groot.

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                                        • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                                          @number9 said in All Blacks 2022:

                                          I don't have access to NZ Herald subscription, but who are the players Gregor Paul is referring to here; https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/gregor-paul-two-young-players-a-beacon-of-hope-for-all-blacks-rugby-world-cup-chances/DCH4A7E7GAUNNGW2KLLNPYWRVM/

                                          Fletcher Newell and Ethan de Groot.

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                                          @victor-meldrew He also mentions Hodgman for selection.

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