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  • canefanC canefan

    @Machpants said in Formula 1:

    @Billy-Tell said in Formula 1:

    @Snowy said in Formula 1:

    @canefan said in Formula 1:

    @Billy-Tell said in Formula 1:

    Rotten race from Lawson. Easily overtaken and poor race strategy. Yuki showing how it’s done.

    He didn't even fight. Are his tires fucked?

    I have no idea what they were doing with his stops. Why tf did they wait until lap 39 of 50 to give him fresh rubber? He finished the race with perfectly good tyres on it. Might have been understandable if they had put another set of mediums on that would have been gone in 12 or so. Was like they forgot about it. Just weird.

    Anyone explain that?

    Think they planned a one stop race but then he started getting overtaken easily by every man and his dog so they realised he needed new tires. Don’t know why they didn’t put mediums on though.

    You have limited sets of tyres, could be something to do with that

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/360498764/how-las-vegas-gamble-turned-dud-bet-liam-lawson

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    @canefan said in Formula 1:

    @Machpants said in Formula 1:

    @Billy-Tell said in Formula 1:

    @Snowy said in Formula 1:

    @canefan said in Formula 1:

    @Billy-Tell said in Formula 1:

    Rotten race from Lawson. Easily overtaken and poor race strategy. Yuki showing how it’s done.

    He didn't even fight. Are his tires fucked?

    I have no idea what they were doing with his stops. Why tf did they wait until lap 39 of 50 to give him fresh rubber? He finished the race with perfectly good tyres on it. Might have been understandable if they had put another set of mediums on that would have been gone in 12 or so. Was like they forgot about it. Just weird.

    Anyone explain that?

    Think they planned a one stop race but then he started getting overtaken easily by every man and his dog so they realised he needed new tires. Don’t know why they didn’t put mediums on though.

    You have limited sets of tyres, could be something to do with that

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/360498764/how-las-vegas-gamble-turned-dud-bet-liam-lawson

    Thanks guys. Calling it a "low percentage play" is polite, it was a complete cock up. Obvious after the first stint that a one stop was never going to work and they a had a clue about the medium's longevity when Perez (I think) chewed them out after the first dozen or so laps.

    I thought that the coms had said he had a medium set left? Even that would have made more sense for the last stint but maybe they had it wrong (or I did) and as you say @Machpants, all they had left was the hards. That actually makes the planning even worse though, doing 27ish of the 39ish they had to do on one set, and 11 on the other is just plain dumb. Sure, a few laps either way of half for an under or over cut, or some clear air / track position, but finishing with really good rubber is a real waste. Hope it doesn't cost Lawson too dearly...not that he was going that well anyway.

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    • SnowyS Snowy

      @canefan said in Formula 1:

      @Machpants said in Formula 1:

      @Billy-Tell said in Formula 1:

      @Snowy said in Formula 1:

      @canefan said in Formula 1:

      @Billy-Tell said in Formula 1:

      Rotten race from Lawson. Easily overtaken and poor race strategy. Yuki showing how it’s done.

      He didn't even fight. Are his tires fucked?

      I have no idea what they were doing with his stops. Why tf did they wait until lap 39 of 50 to give him fresh rubber? He finished the race with perfectly good tyres on it. Might have been understandable if they had put another set of mediums on that would have been gone in 12 or so. Was like they forgot about it. Just weird.

      Anyone explain that?

      Think they planned a one stop race but then he started getting overtaken easily by every man and his dog so they realised he needed new tires. Don’t know why they didn’t put mediums on though.

      You have limited sets of tyres, could be something to do with that

      https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/360498764/how-las-vegas-gamble-turned-dud-bet-liam-lawson

      Thanks guys. Calling it a "low percentage play" is polite, it was a complete cock up. Obvious after the first stint that a one stop was never going to work and they a had a clue about the medium's longevity when Perez (I think) chewed them out after the first dozen or so laps.

      I thought that the coms had said he had a medium set left? Even that would have made more sense for the last stint but maybe they had it wrong (or I did) and as you say @Machpants, all they had left was the hards. That actually makes the planning even worse though, doing 27ish of the 39ish they had to do on one set, and 11 on the other is just plain dumb. Sure, a few laps either way of half for an under or over cut, or some clear air / track position, but finishing with really good rubber is a real waste. Hope it doesn't cost Lawson too dearly...not that he was going that well anyway.

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      @Snowy sounds like the car wasn't great all weekend. They admit it in the article. Apparently he was trying hard to keep it out of the wall

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      • canefanC canefan

        @Snowy sounds like the car wasn't great all weekend. They admit it in the article. Apparently he was trying hard to keep it out of the wall

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        @canefan said in Formula 1:

        @Snowy sounds like the car wasn't great all weekend. They admit it in the article. Apparently he was trying hard to keep it out of the wall

        Yeah, I gathered that and yet Yuki went well. Just a bad weekend all round from setup to strategy. Bad time to have one of those.

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          Thankfully one dud race with reasons won't put the kaibosh on Liam's furture - I hope

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          • M Machpants

            Thankfully one dud race with reasons won't put the kaibosh on Liam's furture - I hope

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            @Machpants said in Formula 1:

            Thankfully one dud race with reasons won't put the kaibosh on Liam's furture - I hope

            Despite what is written in the media, the teams have the telemetry, and know who is getting the best out of their cars. So if he is good enough, regardless of results, they know

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              Good sprint qualifying for Lawson. He finished 10th.. he was 9th but had a time deleted

              Perez 16th & Tsunoda 17th

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                An absolute mare of a start saw Lawson drop from 10 to 17. Saving grace: Perez finished dead last in 20th.

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                  Lawson not great. But Perez managed to get himself eliminated while in 5th.

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                  • Billy TellB Billy Tell

                    Lawson not great. But Perez managed to get himself eliminated while in 5th.

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                    @Billy-Tell said in Formula 1:

                    Lawson not great. But Perez managed to get himself eliminated while in 5th.

                    RB race pace was slow all weekend. Tsunoda 13th, Lawson 14th (15 cars finished). The sprint was Lawson 16th, Tsunoda 17th. Not much either can do when the pace wasn’t there

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                    • DuluthD Duluth

                      @Billy-Tell said in Formula 1:

                      Lawson not great. But Perez managed to get himself eliminated while in 5th.

                      RB race pace was slow all weekend. Tsunoda 13th, Lawson 14th (15 cars finished). The sprint was Lawson 16th, Tsunoda 17th. Not much either can do when the pace wasn’t there

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                      @Duluth said in Formula 1:

                      @Billy-Tell said in Formula 1:

                      Lawson not great. But Perez managed to get himself eliminated while in 5th.

                      RB race pace was slow all weekend. Tsunoda 13th, Lawson 14th (15 cars finished). The sprint was Lawson 16th, Tsunoda 17th. Not much either can do when the pace wasn’t there

                      Their cars are shit

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                          Sayonara Perez. Not even 1 lap.

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                            Lawson screwed by his team who didn’t tighten front left properly:(

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                              Max calling the stewards idiots for penalising him for doing his usual corner using the other car as a buffer and fuck the other driver's race.

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                                  Lawson screwed by his team who didn’t tighten front left properly:(

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                                  @Billy-Tell said in Formula 1:

                                  Lawson screwed by his team who didn’t tighten front left properly:(

                                  He was in eighth place at the time. Sounds like he drove a good race

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                                    Lawson has done an ok job. Not bad, but not clearly superior to Tsunoda.

                                    I think he needs a full season in RB to show his stuff properly. He doesn’t look like Red Bull quality. Yet.

                                    Rumour mill of Bottas to Red Bull has quieted down, I thought that made a lot of sense. So who knows, fingers crossed for him.

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                                      Lawson has done an ok job. Not bad, but not clearly superior to Tsunoda.

                                      I think he needs a full season in RB to show his stuff properly. He doesn’t look like Red Bull quality. Yet.

                                      Rumour mill of Bottas to Red Bull has quieted down, I thought that made a lot of sense. So who knows, fingers crossed for him.

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                                      @MajorRage said in Formula 1:

                                      Rumour mill of Bottas to Red Bull

                                      Hadn't even heard that, only heard he's likely off to Mercedes.

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                                        @MajorRage said in Formula 1:

                                        Rumour mill of Bottas to Red Bull

                                        Hadn't even heard that, only heard he's likely off to Mercedes.

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                                        @Bones said in Formula 1:

                                        @MajorRage said in Formula 1:

                                        Rumour mill of Bottas to Red Bull

                                        Hadn't even heard that, only heard he's likely off to Mercedes.

                                        Yeah that’s where it is now. A few weeks ago there was talk.

                                        Be nice if he can stay in f1. Good driver to watch.

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                                        • MajorPomM MajorPom

                                          @Bones said in Formula 1:

                                          @MajorRage said in Formula 1:

                                          Rumour mill of Bottas to Red Bull

                                          Hadn't even heard that, only heard he's likely off to Mercedes.

                                          Yeah that’s where it is now. A few weeks ago there was talk.

                                          Be nice if he can stay in f1. Good driver to watch.

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                                          @MajorRage said in Formula 1:

                                          Good driver to watch

                                          I missed when he was actually good and the only time I notice him now is generally when he's being passed easily.

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