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  • DuluthD Duluth

    @chimoaus said in Formula 1:

    Yep that is fair, it is just interesting how some drivers like Bearman, Hadjar, Antonelli have slotted in and had instant speed.

    I think Lawson had that in his first stint in F1. I know that doesn't show in the raw results you posted.. however the perception at the time was that he was out performing the car

    The question is if he can get back to that.

    Because of the change of teams he has significantly less time with his car than everyone else. Qualifying 14th and out qualifying a Red Bull in those circumstances was a pass mark IMO.

    He needs to catch up with Hadjar fast though

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    #747

    @Duluth Looks like only 2 top t10 qualifying results in 14 attempts. But hopefully he has the entire season to get some consistency and hopefully results will improve. Well they kind of have to I guess.
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      @Duluth Looks like only 2 top t10 qualifying results in 14 attempts. But hopefully he has the entire season to get some consistency and hopefully results will improve. Well they kind of have to I guess.
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      #748

      @chimoaus

      Sure but that first stint was widely praised and his results were basically the ceiling of that car. That context is missing from the numbers.

      He needs to find that 2023 speed again

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        Lawson nearly half a second up on Tsunoda and Hadjar. Interestingly the Verstappen replacement is 4 seconds further back.

        Mind you, only fifteen minutes into P1, so maybe not the full story.

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          #750

          Lawson sets faster time than Hadjar and Tsunoda in P1.

          Perhaps just the session he needs to fill the confidence meter.

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          • antipodeanA antipodean

            Lawson sets faster time than Hadjar and Tsunoda in P1.

            Perhaps just the session he needs to fill the confidence meter.

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            @antipodean said in Formula 1:

            Lawson sets faster time than Hadjar and Tsunoda in P1.

            Perhaps just the session he needs to fill the confidence meter.

            Fastest of any RB driver wasn't he?

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              #752

              There were lots of reserve drivers in P1 I think. Times from P2 likely more representative. Hadjar is very quick but Yuki 18th seems to have the 2nd driver curse. Hopefully for his sake he can find some speed.

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                #753

                Another poor qualifying from LL, unless he has a drastic turnaround is there a chance he will be dropped midseason? I think Antonellis is the find of the season, that must be one of the best starts to a season by a rookie. Red Bull struggled and Norris will be unhappy with that result. Well done Oscar.

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                • chimoausC chimoaus

                  Another poor qualifying from LL, unless he has a drastic turnaround is there a chance he will be dropped midseason? I think Antonellis is the find of the season, that must be one of the best starts to a season by a rookie. Red Bull struggled and Norris will be unhappy with that result. Well done Oscar.

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                  #754

                  @chimoaus said in Formula 1:

                  Another poor qualifying from LL, unless he has a drastic turnaround is there a chance, he will be dropped midseason?

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                  He's contracted for 2 years. And besides, the numbers don't tell you that his DRS malfunctioned so he couldn't accelerate fully down the straight. F1 really is a team sport. His car let him down today

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                  • canefanC canefan

                    @chimoaus said in Formula 1:

                    Another poor qualifying from LL, unless he has a drastic turnaround is there a chance, he will be dropped midseason?

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                    He's contracted for 2 years. And besides, the numbers don't tell you that his DRS malfunctioned so he couldn't accelerate fully down the straight. F1 really is a team sport. His car let him down today

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                    #755

                    @canefan So was Perez? Unfortunately, with F1 some drivers just don't have any 'luck' and others have loads. It's a numbers game and if you consistently fail to get points then the pressure comes on. Racing Bull do seem to have screwed over their drivers so far this year with mistakes and poor strategy. I imagine F1 is all about confidence and when you are constantly under pressure it can't be easy to focus and get that little bit extra.

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                    • canefanC canefan

                      @chimoaus said in Formula 1:

                      Another poor qualifying from LL, unless he has a drastic turnaround is there a chance, he will be dropped midseason?

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                      He's contracted for 2 years. And besides, the numbers don't tell you that his DRS malfunctioned so he couldn't accelerate fully down the straight. F1 really is a team sport. His car let him down today

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                      #756

                      @canefan Looks like driver error?
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                      • chimoausC chimoaus

                        @canefan Looks like driver error?
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                        #757

                        @chimoaus said in Formula 1:

                        @canefan Looks like driver error?
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                        https://www.formula1.com/en/video/it-sucks-lawson-explains-drs-derailed-his-qualifying-efforts.1829215595491431218

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                        • canefanC canefan

                          @chimoaus said in Formula 1:

                          @canefan Looks like driver error?
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                          https://www.formula1.com/en/video/it-sucks-lawson-explains-drs-derailed-his-qualifying-efforts.1829215595491431218

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                          #758

                          @canefan It doesn't say anywhere it was a technical problem with the DRS, the DRS is deactivated under certain scenarios and it appears that Liam has deactivated it through his driving which is driver error.

                          However his team confirmed it was Lawson’s reaction to the wheelspin which caused his DRS to close. “In the tricky conditions, Liam picked up a little wheelspin on exit from turn 10,” the team’s chief technical officer Tim Goss explained, “resulting in a small throttle lift to keep the car under control causing DRS to automatically close which caused him to lose vital speed on the straight, and cost [him] the place in Q2.”

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                            #759

                            Another win for Oscar, it appears it will be a tight race between himself and Lando for the championship. Russell continues to impress and RB/RB continue to struggle. Yuki did finish in points which must make him happy. LL 16/18 which can’t help his confidence at all.

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                              #760

                              Lawson had some decent pace in his last stint. Finished 13 on the track ahead of his team mate, dropped back because of a penalty during the safety car

                              Russell and Leclerc having a few drs issues

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                              • DuluthD Duluth

                                Lawson had some decent pace in his last stint. Finished 13 on the track ahead of his team mate, dropped back because of a penalty during the safety car

                                Russell and Leclerc having a few drs issues

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                                @Duluth said in Formula 1:

                                Lawson had some decent pace in his last stint. Finished 13 on the track ahead of his team mate, dropped back because of a penalty during the safety car

                                Russell and Leclerc having a few drs issues

                                Hopefully he takes some confidence from that last stint and can take it into the next round

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                                  #762

                                  Silly error from Tsunoda in P2

                                  https://twitter.com/F1/status/1913291420124799174

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                                  • DuluthD Duluth

                                    Silly error from Tsunoda in P2

                                    https://twitter.com/F1/status/1913291420124799174

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                                    chimoaus
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #763

                                    @Duluth Yep, had some pace prior, see how he goes today. Mclaren again appear to have the speed. Of interest went to the farm supply shop this morning and a young lass behind the counter had Piastris hat on, clearly he is popular which is great.

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                                      #764

                                      I feel really mean when I see Tsunoda crash out and I smile...

                                      But I really want to see Liam outscore him as often as possible. (Not personal against Tsunoda just due to the whole situation)

                                      Now he Liam just needs to stay on the track and finish in the points... (fingers crossed)

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                                        #765

                                        Fail. 10 second penalty.

                                        Seems incredibly harsh. No way in proportion.

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                                          #766

                                          Great result for Piastri.

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