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    And qualifies 9th for the race. If he can get away with a good start, and race nice and clean, if his team can do a good job with strategy and pit stops he should be in the points

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      And qualifies 9th for the race. If he can get away with a good start, and race nice and clean, if his team can do a good job with strategy and pit stops he should be in the points

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      @canefan Yes, great result for Lawson but overshadowed by the 5th by his rookie teammate who did very well. Lawson may struggle as he has both Mercedes behind, Tsunoda the Williams etc. It will be interesting to see if the team can get it together for this one.

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        Why on earth is Briatore still allowed to be anywhere near an F1 team? The guys life is a trail of dodgy behaviour, both in and out of F1.

        Didn't see too much wrong with Doohan honestly, but it's right that Colapinto has a seat somewhere.

        Lots of youngsters around, Lawson needs to work on his discipline otherwise he'll find himself out in the cold with no way back in.

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        @MajorRage said in Formula 1:

        Why on earth is Briatore still allowed to be anywhere near an F1 team? The guys life is a trail of dodgy behaviour, both in and out of F1.

        His Wikipedia biography is quite the read.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flavio_Briatore

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          @canefan Yes, great result for Lawson but overshadowed by the 5th by his rookie teammate who did very well. Lawson may struggle as he has both Mercedes behind, Tsunoda the Williams etc. It will be interesting to see if the team can get it together for this one.

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          @chimoaus said in Formula 1:

          @canefan Yes, great result for Lawson but overshadowed by the 5th by his rookie teammate who did very well. Lawson may struggle as he has both Mercedes behind, Tsunoda the Williams etc. It will be interesting to see if the team can get it together for this one.

          Its a very difficult track to overtake. Liam's main problem in the previous rounds was his poor quali, which then lead to his team having to make low percentage choices in the hope that he might make a dramatic gain. If he can hold his own at the start that will be half the battle

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            Lawson finished 8th in Monaco. A great result for him.

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            • MajorPomM MajorPom

              Why on earth is Briatore still allowed to be anywhere near an F1 team? The guys life is a trail of dodgy behaviour, both in and out of F1.

              Didn't see too much wrong with Doohan honestly, but it's right that Colapinto has a seat somewhere.

              Lots of youngsters around, Lawson needs to work on his discipline otherwise he'll find himself out in the cold with no way back in.

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              @MajorRage said in Formula 1:

              Why on earth is Briatore still allowed to be anywhere near an F1 team? The guys life is a trail of dodgy behaviour, both in and out of F1.

              In comparison with those models of probity and financial integrity Bernie Ecclestone and Max Mosley. F1's links to tax fraud, money laundering and organised crime are legendary.

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                Lawson finished 8th in Monaco. A great result for him.

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                @sparky said in Formula 1:

                Lawson finished 8th in Monaco. A great result for him.

                Solid strategy and an excellent result. He was just behind Ocon in the latter stages, and not far from Hadjar either. That will do wonders for the confidence

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                • canefanC canefan

                  @sparky said in Formula 1:

                  Lawson finished 8th in Monaco. A great result for him.

                  Solid strategy and an excellent result. He was just behind Ocon in the latter stages, and not far from Hadjar either. That will do wonders for the confidence

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                  @canefan said in Formula 1:

                  @sparky said in Formula 1:

                  Lawson finished 8th in Monaco. A great result for him.

                  Solid strategy and an excellent result. He was just behind Ocon in the latter stages, and not far from Hadjar either. That will do wonders for the confidence

                  The tactics weren’t great for the spectacle but Lawson did very well.

                  He held up the middle of the pack to allow Hadjar to pit in front of them. Continued to hold them up so Hadjar could complete his second mandatory pit and stay in front of Lawson essentially confirming 6th spot for his team mate. After that he had enough pace to complete his two pits without losing positions

                  The new track rules didn’t work but RB took advantage of them the best

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                    @canefan said in Formula 1:

                    @sparky said in Formula 1:

                    Lawson finished 8th in Monaco. A great result for him.

                    Solid strategy and an excellent result. He was just behind Ocon in the latter stages, and not far from Hadjar either. That will do wonders for the confidence

                    The tactics weren’t great for the spectacle but Lawson did very well.

                    He held up the middle of the pack to allow Hadjar to pit in front of them. Continued to hold them up so Hadjar could complete his second mandatory pit and stay in front of Lawson essentially confirming 6th spot for his team mate. After that he had enough pace to complete his two pits without losing positions

                    The new track rules didn’t work but RB took advantage of them the best

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                    canefan
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                    #806

                    @Duluth said in Formula 1:

                    @canefan said in Formula 1:

                    @sparky said in Formula 1:

                    Lawson finished 8th in Monaco. A great result for him.

                    Solid strategy and an excellent result. He was just behind Ocon in the latter stages, and not far from Hadjar either. That will do wonders for the confidence

                    The tactics weren’t great for the spectacle but Lawson did very well.

                    He held up the middle of the pack to allow Hadjar to pit in front of them. Continued to hold them up so Hadjar could complete his second mandatory pit and stay in front of Lawson essentially confirming 6th spot for his team mate. After that he had enough pace to complete his two pits without losing positions

                    The new track rules didn’t work but RB took advantage of them the best

                    Monaco is an outlier. They could never get away with that on a proper track. I do like the idea of mandatory stops though. It might create more variability

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                      Not much chat about Tsunoda and his lack of results at Red Bull. His results so far, I assume he would have hoped for better than that.

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                        Not much chat about Tsunoda and his lack of results at Red Bull. His results so far, I assume he would have hoped for better than that.

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                        @chimoaus said in Formula 1:

                        Not much chat about Tsunoda and his lack of results at Red Bull. His results so far, I assume he would have hoped for better than that.

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                        That second RB seat is cursed. And the car is shit. Even Max can't consistently get on the podium with it, and he's the best driver by far

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                        • canefanC canefan

                          @Duluth said in Formula 1:

                          @canefan said in Formula 1:

                          @sparky said in Formula 1:

                          Lawson finished 8th in Monaco. A great result for him.

                          Solid strategy and an excellent result. He was just behind Ocon in the latter stages, and not far from Hadjar either. That will do wonders for the confidence

                          The tactics weren’t great for the spectacle but Lawson did very well.

                          He held up the middle of the pack to allow Hadjar to pit in front of them. Continued to hold them up so Hadjar could complete his second mandatory pit and stay in front of Lawson essentially confirming 6th spot for his team mate. After that he had enough pace to complete his two pits without losing positions

                          The new track rules didn’t work but RB took advantage of them the best

                          Monaco is an outlier. They could never get away with that on a proper track. I do like the idea of mandatory stops though. It might create more variability

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                          @canefan said in Formula 1:

                          I do like the idea of mandatory stops though. It might create more variability

                          They went from a dull race to a dull and difficult to follow race

                          There's been some suggestions about also mandating when the first pit spot needs to be taken (first 20 laps, first half of the race etc)

                          However that doesn't deal with the actual problem. It's too hard to pass on track at Monaco. Trying to manufacture position changes in the pit lane doesn't fix the actual racing. Also it opens up the possibility of shenanigans like today

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                            Yeah everyone loves Monaco but the racing is terrible. It'll never get canned because of other factors, but if a new circuit was that bad it would get dropped instantly.

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                              canefan
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                              Purely a heritage race. That has all the glitz and glamour, but it's like racing cars around the countdown car park

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                                mohikamo
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                                yeah
                                embarrassing
                                I think the commentators actually were a little embarrassed at times
                                the Monaco “party” is ok, look at the yachts!, but the actual race is a heritage event
                                the qualifying is legit, should award the points for that, not the race
                                embarrassing when you compare it to the other big race on the weekend
                                Indy 500: 22 lead changes (14 different drivers)

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                                  Back in 2017 the Monaco Grand Prix made 90 million Euros over four days for the Principality. It will be a lot more than that now.

                                  You might not like it, but the 72-hour annual party for some of the world's wealthiest and most flashy individuals with some fast cars in the background in a glamorous Mediterranean tax haven with a famous casino brings in the cash. Lots and lots of cash.

                                  There is zero chance of it disappearing from the sporting calendar.

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                                    Back in 2017 the Monaco Grand Prix made 90 million Euros over four days for the Principality. It will be a lot more than that now.

                                    You might not like it, but the 72-hour annual party for some of the world's wealthiest and most flashy individuals with some fast cars in the background in a glamorous Mediterranean tax haven with a famous casino brings in the cash. Lots and lots of cash.

                                    There is zero chance of it disappearing from the sporting calendar.

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                                    @sparky said in Formula 1:

                                    Back in 2017 the Monaco Grand Prix made 90 million Euros over four days for the Principality. It will be a lot more than that now.

                                    You might not like it, but the 72-hour annual party for some of the world's wealthiest and most flashy individuals with some fast cars in the background in a glamorous Mediterranean tax haven with a famous casino brings in the cash. Lots and lots of cash.

                                    There is zero chance of it disappearing from the sporting calendar.

                                    I didn't say I wanted it gone. It's still cool, it just isn't the pure racing test that comes with a proper track

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                                      The excitement of Monaco on the track is the practice sessions and then the qualifying. Short of a SC the race is just a procession.

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                                        #816

                                        I still remember Liam's audacious pass in F2, Monaco F2 GP 2021

                                        https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1ET3xWFY7H/

                                        Eye-catching because of how rare it was.

                                        These F1 cars are so wide, unless someone makes a mistake, it is impossible to overtake

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                                          Good to see the F1 principals pushing for some track updates. I'd assumed it wouldn't be possible on a street circuit in an old city, but maybe there are some possibilities.

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