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  • R Runt

    Maybe Max is already gone? Could have been the last straw, Horner has to go, start from the bottom and build up a new team?

    Otherwise surely Red Bull Racing is more attractive to Verstappen with Horner in charge? He knows how to create not just a winning team but a team that can completely dominate. That's got to be 10 times more important than a Team Principle getting along with your Dad, despite what the tabloids and netflix might want us to believe.

    There was a group of people at Red Bull (Horner, Newey, Wheatly, Marshall, Marko and others) who are all as competitive as hell and for a long time they likely put their differences to one side because combined they ruthlessly created one of the most successful teams of all time. It has all been slowly crumbling since Dietrich Mateschitz passed away. Max's continued success has merely created a facade to cover what began to collapse 2.5 years ago.

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    @Runt said in Formula 1:

    Maybe Max is already gone? Could have been the last straw, Horner has to go, start from the bottom and build up a new team?

    Otherwise surely Red Bull Racing is more attractive to Verstappen with Horner in charge? He knows how to create not just a winning team but a team that can completely dominate. That's got to be 10 times more important than a Team Principle getting along with your Dad, despite what the tabloids and netflix might want us to believe.

    There was a group of people at Red Bull (Horner, Newey, Wheatly, Marshall, Marko and others) who are all as competitive as hell and for a long time they likely put their differences to one side because combined they ruthlessly created one of the most successful teams of all time. It has all been slowly crumbling since Dietrich Mateschitz passed away. Max's continued success has merely created a facade to cover what began to collapse 2.5 years ago.

    Bit harsh on Red Bull IMHO to say what has happened over the last couple of years is a collapse. There are so many moving parts to creating an F1 team and all are subject to swings and roundabouts. It's not THAT long ago that Mercedes was completely dominant, leagues ahead of anybody else. Did they have a collapse? The difference is that despite their large drop off, Toto owns the team, so he basically cannot be sacked.

    Regardless they have the financial backing to turn things around. They certainly have a very very interesting year ahead.

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    • M mohikamo

      @antipodean

      yes but . . .

      do you think the penalty would have been applied if the circumstances were reversed

      if the penalty was hanging over norris, and piastri was just behind him

      so giving the aussie the win over the pom at the british GP

      i dont think so . . .

      there would have been a riot for sure!

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      wrote on last edited by MajorPom
      #869

      @mohikamo said in Formula 1:

      @antipodean

      yes but . . .

      do you think the penalty would have been applied if the circumstances were reversed

      if the penalty was hanging over norris, and piastri was just behind him

      so giving the aussie the win over the pom at the british GP

      i dont think so . . .

      there would have been a riot for sure

      63d4dccd-b0dd-4b50-a1bb-8ba263004234-image.png

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      • CatograndeC Catogrande

        @mohikamo said in Formula 1:

        @antipodean

        yes but . . .

        do you think the penalty would have been applied if the circumstances were reversed

        if the penalty was hanging over norris, and piastri was just behind him

        so giving the aussie the win over the pom at the british GP

        i dont think so . . .

        there would have been a riot for sure

        63d4dccd-b0dd-4b50-a1bb-8ba263004234-image.png

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        @Catogrande ok boomer

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        • BonesB Bones

          @Catogrande ok boomer

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          Catogrande
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          #871

          @Bones said in Formula 1:

          @Catogrande ok boomer

          Yeah. Kids today eh?

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          • CatograndeC Catogrande

            @Bones said in Formula 1:

            @Catogrande ok boomer

            Yeah. Kids today eh?

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            Bones
            wrote on last edited by
            #872

            @Catogrande said in Formula 1:

            @Bones said in Formula 1:

            @Catogrande ok boomer

            Yeah. Kids today eh?

            Why don't you type out another URL to take up the next two days

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            • BonesB Bones

              @Catogrande said in Formula 1:

              @Bones said in Formula 1:

              @Catogrande ok boomer

              Yeah. Kids today eh?

              Why don't you type out another URL to take up the next two days

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              Catogrande
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              #873

              @Bones said in Formula 1:

              @Catogrande said in Formula 1:

              @Bones said in Formula 1:

              @Catogrande ok boomer

              Yeah. Kids today eh?

              Why don't you type out another URL to take up the next two days

              Don't worry. One of the kids sorted it out for me.

              Was it you?

              Oh. No. Sorry.

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              • DuluthD Offline
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                #874

                Piastri on pole for the Sprint race tonight ahead of Max in 2nd

                Hadjar 9th, Lawson 11th and Tsunoda the last of the red bulls again in 12th

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                  #875

                  Max won the sprint. Did well to get past Piastri on the first lap

                  Sprint races kind of suck because no one wants to risk the rest of the weekend

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                  • DuluthD Duluth

                    Max won the sprint. Did well to get past Piastri on the first lap

                    Sprint races kind of suck because no one wants to risk the rest of the weekend

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                    @Duluth said in Formula 1:

                    Max won the sprint. Did well to get past Piastri on the first lap

                    Sprint races kind of suck because no one wants to risk the rest of the weekend

                    Fuck it was one of the most boring races eh, hardly any position changes if you discount those that went past Gasly.

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                      #877

                      Brilliant by Lawson, makes Q3.

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                        Just when it was looking peachy, Lawson sneaks past Tsunoda "after the bell", only for Tsunoda to sneak back past. Shittest RB driver of the day.

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                        • canefanC Away
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                          canefan
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                          Now he has to survive the start and race clean. I heard rain might be coming which might suit him well, if he can get away clean

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                            #880

                            Lawson in the points finishing in 8th place in Belgium. A McLaren one-two with Piastri getting the victory.

                            Liam Lawson eighth at Formula 1’s Belgian Grand Prix after well-timed pass on team-mate

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                            • DuluthD Offline
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                              Duluth
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                              #881

                              Yeah solid drive from Lawson. Qualified 9th, finished 8th

                              Caught up with Alonso & Sainz in the Drivers Standings. No big gaps at this end of the table.. so he's a good chance of gaining more places soon

                              Screenshot 2025-07-28 at 12.14.34 PM.png

                              Out the front, Piastri continued his edge over Norris

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                                #882

                                Lawson qualified 9th, just ahead of Hadjar annd just behind Max

                                Leclerc on poll ahead of the McLarens

                                Tsunoda back in 16th.

                                Hamilton didn't get out of Q2 and seems depressed

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                                • canefanC Away
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                                  canefan
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                                  #883

                                  Nice quali for LL and Racing Bulls. They'll be hoping to convert another good chance for points

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                                    sparky
                                    wrote on last edited by sparky
                                    #884

                                    Lewis Hamilton was a magnificent driver back in the day. But those times are long gone. Getting old is a bitch, but he's got to face the reality that he's not the driver he once was.

                                    He should retire and enjoy the millions that he's earned.

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                                      Bones
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                                      #885

                                      Something doesn't seem right at Ferrari. Both drivers are constantly bitching at their race engineers, way beyond just the odd spat.

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                                      • BonesB Bones

                                        Something doesn't seem right at Ferrari. Both drivers are constantly bitching at their race engineers, way beyond just the odd spat.

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                                        MajorPom
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #886

                                        @Bones did you see Cullen is back as Hamilton’s assistant?

                                        I only noticed that this qual, not sure how long she’s been back.

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                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #887

                                          Lewis showing all his maturity again. Just don't be a dick and answer some fucking mail in questions you moran.

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