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Final: Blues vs Crusaders

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  • chimoausC chimoaus

    Razor still needs overseas experience?

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    @chimoaus said in Final: Blues vs Crusaders:

    Razor still needs overseas experience?

    It was a fucking abysmal decision not to appoint him AB coach after 2019 RWC. Credit to him for staying in NZ would there must have been serious coin on the table for him to go overseas as the muppets at NZR suggested.

    I hope he's not passed over for AB coach again.

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    • TimT Tim

      @Bones You know the halfback can tell the forwards what to do ...

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      @Tim said in Final: Blues vs Crusaders:

      @Bones You know the halfback can tell the forwards what to do ...

      Oh. Nock said "Hey Ofa, look around, pick up the ball, look around again and then awkwardly roll the ball through your legs"

      I didn't hear it on my feed, sorry.

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        I'm not sure we can blame Akira, it's not like any of the Crusaders loosies were dominant. It was the Crusaders entire pack and the work from 9 and 10.

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        • Jailbreak7J Jailbreak7

          Difference was the Saders had a completely simple and unshakeable gameplan. Tackle. Possession. Tackle. Run, Territory. Tackle. Everyone do their job. Did I mention tackle. Hard to see what the Blues gameplan was.

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          @Jailbreak7 said in Final: Blues vs Crusaders:

          Difference was the Saders had a completely simple and unshakeable gameplan. Tackle. Possession. Tackle. Run, Territory. Tackle. Everyone do their job. Did I mention tackle. Hard to see what the Blues gameplan was.

          If they had one it disappeared at the line out

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          • M Mattasaurus

            @WillieTheWaiter said in Final: Blues vs Crusaders:

            @Duluth of course he’s going to make metres when he’s standing on the fucking wing!!

            Did anything come from those metres? Nope.
            Did you get smashed off the park in the collisions and breakdowns? Yep
            Would having your biggest loose forward at the breakdown help?

            I would also add, how many of the tackles were dominate?

            It's the same shit we saw from frizzel... Just goes missing when the going gets tough.
            what we need is a hard hitting scary mofo in the 6 that can turn the tide in a game like tonight ...

            Last one to come close was Squire imo

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            @Mattasaurus said in Final: Blues vs Crusaders:

            @WillieTheWaiter said in Final: Blues vs Crusaders:

            @Duluth of course he’s going to make metres when he’s standing on the fucking wing!!

            Did anything come from those metres? Nope.
            Did you get smashed off the park in the collisions and breakdowns? Yep
            Would having your biggest loose forward at the breakdown help?

            I would also add, how many of the tackles were dominate?

            It's the same shit we saw from frizzel... Just goes missing when the going gets tough.
            what we need is a hard hitting scary mofo in the 6 that can turn the tide in a game like tonight ...

            Last one to come close was Squire imo

            Agreed, A Ioane looks great when things are easy but you never see him when the going gets tough, just like tonight.

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            • Jailbreak7J Jailbreak7

              Difference was the Saders had a completely simple and unshakeable gameplan. Tackle. Possession. Tackle. Run, Territory. Tackle. Everyone do their job. Did I mention tackle. Hard to see what the Blues gameplan was.

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              @Jailbreak7 said in Final: Blues vs Crusaders:

              Difference was the Saders had a completely simple and unshakeable gameplan. Tackle. Possession. Tackle. Run, Territory. Tackle. Everyone do their job. Did I mention tackle. Hard to see what the Blues gameplan was.

              Clearly it wasn't to win the lineout.

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                Winning set piece in wet conditions is probably more critical than on a fast deck because it will translate to possession and territory.

                Was mighty impressed with our ball handling. With all that possession we could’ve turned it over a heap in those conditions but our ruck work and general handling was the best I’ve seen this year. We still pushed the ball wide and had runners in motion.

                Once Blues got possession, we kept our heads and our discipline was significantly better than previous weeks.

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                • Jailbreak7J Jailbreak7

                  Difference was the Saders had a completely simple and unshakeable gameplan. Tackle. Possession. Tackle. Run, Territory. Tackle. Everyone do their job. Did I mention tackle. Hard to see what the Blues gameplan was.

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                  @Jailbreak7 said in Final: Blues vs Crusaders:

                  Difference was the Saders had a completely simple and unshakeable gameplan. Tackle. Possession. Tackle. Run, Territory. Tackle. Everyone do their job. Did I mention tackle. Hard to see what the Blues gameplan was.

                  The difference was the lineout. It was a huge amount of extra ball

                  Whitelock is not done yet

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                  • BonesB Bones

                    @Tim said in Final: Blues vs Crusaders:

                    @Bones You know the halfback can tell the forwards what to do ...

                    Oh. Nock said "Hey Ofa, look around, pick up the ball, look around again and then awkwardly roll the ball through your legs"

                    I didn't hear it on my feed, sorry.

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                    @Bones Don't be deliberately obtuse.

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                    • S Steven Harris

                      I always fully believed the Crusaders would be the team to beat despite the run of the blues , I was absolutely staggered that the TAB had the Blues as favourites..they got that totally wrong ..
                      I was even more confident the they would win after the semi finals last week and when Whitelock was cleared to play I knew he would play a massive part at line out time …no offence to my 2 Northland boys but they were up against a couple of locks that were world class ..

                      Watching Sir John Kirwin has been embarrassing and tells me everything why he should never have coached the Blues ..just a fan boy congratulations to the Crusaders, truly amazing franchise their attention to detail is next level ..

                      Just wish the All Black team was being selected this weekend ..
                      There’s at least 3 or 4 who would not be in my team .

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                      @Steven-Harris said in Final: Blues vs Crusaders:

                      I always fully believed the Crusaders would be the team to beat despite the run of the blues , I was absolutely staggered that the TAB had the Blues as favourites..they got that totally wrong ..
                      I was even more confident the they would win after the semi finals last week and when Whitelock was cleared to play I knew he would play a massive part at line out time …no offence to my 2 Northland boys but they were up against a couple of locks that were world class ..

                      Watching Sir John Kirwin has been embarrassing and tells me everything why he should never have coached the Blues ..just a fan boy congratulations to the Crusaders, truly amazing franchise their attention to detail is next level ..

                      Just wish the All Black team was being selected this weekend ..
                      There’s at least 3 or 4 who would not be in my team .

                      After last weeks performance the Crusaders were the favourites. The Blues moved the lineout throws around, so wasn’t just locks being cleaned out it was all jumpers. But everything was off - throws, lifts,….

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                      • TimT Tim

                        @Bones Don't be deliberately obtuse.

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                        @Tim said in Final: Blues vs Crusaders:

                        @Bones Don't be deliberately obtuse.

                        Hey you started it. I do realise the halfback can tell forwards what to do, thanks for telling me just in case I didn't know.

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                        • M Mattasaurus

                          @WillieTheWaiter said in Final: Blues vs Crusaders:

                          @Duluth of course he’s going to make metres when he’s standing on the fucking wing!!

                          Did anything come from those metres? Nope.
                          Did you get smashed off the park in the collisions and breakdowns? Yep
                          Would having your biggest loose forward at the breakdown help?

                          I would also add, how many of the tackles were dominate?

                          It's the same shit we saw from frizzel... Just goes missing when the going gets tough.
                          what we need is a hard hitting scary mofo in the 6 that can turn the tide in a game like tonight ...

                          Last one to come close was Squire imo

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                          @Mattasaurus said in Final: Blues vs Crusaders:

                          @WillieTheWaiter said in Final: Blues vs Crusaders:

                          @Duluth of course he’s going to make metres when he’s standing on the fucking wing!!

                          Did anything come from those metres? Nope.
                          Did you get smashed off the park in the collisions and breakdowns? Yep
                          Would having your biggest loose forward at the breakdown help?

                          I would also add, how many of the tackles were dominate?

                          It's the same shit we saw from frizzel... Just goes missing when the going gets tough.
                          what we need is a hard hitting scary mofo in the 6 that can turn the tide in a game like tonight ...

                          Last one to come close was Squire imo

                          I can’t recall Jerry or Kaino spending half the game on the wing. Other thing about Akira is that for a big Hua his post contact metres are non existent

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                            Atleast we won’t have to hear from Kirwan until the next season starts.

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                              Credit to BOK and the refs, I don't think they changed the outcome and thoight they did well overall.

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                              • DuluthD Duluth

                                @WillieTheWaiter said in Final: Blues vs Crusaders:

                                @Crucial said in Final: Blues vs Crusaders:

                                @WillieTheWaiter said in Final: Blues vs Crusaders:

                                @Canes4life said in Final: Blues vs Crusaders:

                                Both Ioane’s and B Barrett have been awfully quiet tonight.

                                Akira thinks his jersey has an 11 or 14 on it.

                                I’ve been drinking every time he hits a ruck. Haven’t had to get a beer out of the fridge yet

                                Careful. You can’t critique Akira’s work rate around here.

                                You need to actually have a work rate to critique! Everything he does is slow mo

                                15 tackles 0 misses

                                Most runs of any Blues player

                                Second only in run metres to the fullback

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                                @Duluth said in Final: Blues vs Crusaders:

                                @WillieTheWaiter said in Final: Blues vs Crusaders:

                                @Crucial said in Final: Blues vs Crusaders:

                                @WillieTheWaiter said in Final: Blues vs Crusaders:

                                @Canes4life said in Final: Blues vs Crusaders:

                                Both Ioane’s and B Barrett have been awfully quiet tonight.

                                Akira thinks his jersey has an 11 or 14 on it.

                                I’ve been drinking every time he hits a ruck. Haven’t had to get a beer out of the fridge yet

                                Careful. You can’t critique Akira’s work rate around here.

                                You need to actually have a work rate to critique! Everything he does is slow mo

                                15 tackles 0 misses

                                Most runs of any Blues player

                                Second only in run metres to the fullback

                                Yeah, He looked really busy doing a lot of engine-room stuff. Not what you'd have said about him a season or two back.

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                                • BonesB Bones

                                  @Tim said in Final: Blues vs Crusaders:

                                  @Bones Don't be deliberately obtuse.

                                  Hey you started it. I do realise the halfback can tell forwards what to do, thanks for telling me just in case I didn't know.

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                                  @Bones FFS, don't be such a bitch. It's as simple as the halfback telling the prop to push into the ruck and leave the ball to him.

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                                  • chimoausC chimoaus

                                    Credit to BOK and the refs, I don't think they changed the outcome and thoight they did well overall.

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                                    @chimoaus said in Final: Blues vs Crusaders:

                                    Credit to BOK and the refs, I don't think they changed the outcome and thoight they did well overall.

                                    No cards, either

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                                      Just a great team vs a team of individuals

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                                      • TimT Tim

                                        @Bones FFS, don't be such a bitch. It's as simple as the halfback telling the prop to push into the ruck and leave the ball to him.

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                                        @Tim said in Final: Blues vs Crusaders:

                                        @Bones FFS, don't be such a bitch. It's as simple as the halfback telling the prop to push into the ruck and leave the ball to him.

                                        But was mentioned he was at the bottom of a ruck, and some one else needed to take it. Ofa did then froze like a rabbit in the headlights. That wasn't nock fault

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                                          This games was a black mark against Eklund. Hopefully Vikena’s throwing improves quickly. The rest of his game is good.

                                          Tuipulotu would have been useful. Despite his average test form his Blues form was always strong

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