Final: Blues vs Crusaders
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@Mattasaurus said in Final: Blues vs Crusaders:
@kev said in Final: Blues vs Crusaders:
@kiwiinmelb said in Final: Blues vs Crusaders:
I guess in hindsight the writing was on the wall at the end of last weeks blues brumbies game ,
Blues continued on in this game with the same deer in the headlights look about them
For me this is a McDonald choke. The Blues game is running. Aimless kicking from Christie and BB, and a lineout that fell apart. He has the best props, and loose forwards in the game ( useful locks ) and they were owned not just this game but the last 40 mins against the Brumbies. Wrong game plan, poor attention to detail, and use of bench.
Best props
Well they should have been…
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Where is the Blues Mom thread? Just watched last few minutes on tv and sounds like Christie had a whopper of a game before being subbed late. Ofa prominent all over the show too like we want from our props. And pots and penalties and no tries from Crusaders pack so they must have shied away from attacking the Blues dominant lineout and scrum when in attacking positions. And run away stats from Akira to boot.
So many contenders to choose from. Might have to watch the replay to choose correctly. -
@Duluth the problem with Tuipulotu , he’s not a line-out option …for me the biggest disappointment was there was no change of tactics to go to short lineouts , 2 or 4 man lineouts , first long throw did not come until the 60th minute .
We kept going to full lineouts , and the Crusaders kept putting pressure on Eklund.
The Crusaders had so many lineout options , Grace is the number 1 on opposition ball .
The passing from the Blues was woeful, for me the Blues need far more work out of their props , if you think about how all the Crusaders props performed , they were awesome .
Too many of the Blues All Blacks did not front .@Steven-Harris said in Final: Blues vs Crusaders:
he’s not a line-out option
Huh? He's excellent at the lineout. A feature of him on the bench for the ABs used to be waltzing on the field and immediately getting a lineout steal.
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@kev said in Final: Blues vs Crusaders:
Nothing wrong with Nock
Nock has a history of underwhelming bench performances.
Obviously tonight had almost nothing to do with him - but he's a better starter than bench player.
@KiwiMurph said in Final: Blues vs Crusaders:
@kev said in Final: Blues vs Crusaders:
Nothing wrong with Nock
Nock has a history of underwhelming bench performances.
Obviously tonight had almost nothing to do with him - but he's a better starter than bench player.
I thought he played well when they played their B team and won. Didn’t get much game time other than that. Trouble is once you feature negatively in an Auckland centric Blues Silver Fern feed then your number is up on this forum. The criticism at the end of this game was just petty and reflected bias rather than what happened on the field.
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Where is the Blues Mom thread? Just watched last few minutes on tv and sounds like Christie had a whopper of a game before being subbed late. Ofa prominent all over the show too like we want from our props. And pots and penalties and no tries from Crusaders pack so they must have shied away from attacking the Blues dominant lineout and scrum when in attacking positions. And run away stats from Akira to boot.
So many contenders to choose from. Might have to watch the replay to choose correctly.@ARHS said in Final: Blues vs Crusaders:
Where is the Blues Mom thread?
It’s up:
https://www.forum.thesilverfern.com/topic/5374/blues-motm-sr-final/1 -
@Mattasaurus said in Final: Blues vs Crusaders:
@kev
Here's one of the bestI have no doubt that if he gets his fitness where they want he will have a long AB career.
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@KiwiMurph said in Final: Blues vs Crusaders:
Not really sure he needs to do the breakdance on Eden Park.
Why not?
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@KiwiMurph said in Final: Blues vs Crusaders:
Not really sure he needs to do the breakdance on Eden Park.
Dude, the Crusaders just won the trophy. They are allowed to celebrate. That's how it works.
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@WillieTheWaiter said in Final: Blues vs Crusaders:
Just a great team vs a team of individuals
Imagine losing to these guys by 25-0
You didn’t post after that game for some reason :clinking_beer_mugs:
@Duluth said in Final: Blues vs Crusaders:
@WillieTheWaiter said in Final: Blues vs Crusaders:
Just a great team vs a team of individuals
Imagine losing to these guys by 25-0
You didn’t post after that game for some reason :clinking_beer_mugs:
Nope
but irrelevant comment still stands..
Blues started season clicking as a team have slowly gone backwards.
Saders did the opposite -
With Lord out surely they should select one of the young Crusaders props now and make KT the waterboy.
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@Tim said in Final: Blues vs Crusaders:
@kev the problem is that Nock went missing at the base of the ruck, as he so often does.
Assume you're talking about a specific instance, but "the problem" was the bad guys just completely prevented the Blues from playing.
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@Tim said in Final: Blues vs Crusaders:
@kev the problem is that Nock went missing at the base of the ruck, as he so often does.
Assume you're talking about a specific instance, but "the problem" was the bad guys just completely prevented the Blues from playing.
@booboo said in Final: Blues vs Crusaders:
@Tim said in Final: Blues vs Crusaders:
@kev the problem is that Nock went missing at the base of the ruck, as he so often does.
Assume you're talking about a specific instance, but "the problem" was the bad guys just completely prevented the Blues from playing.
He was getting up from being at the bottom of a ruck….Ofa gets there before him and does the wrong thing so of course it’s his fault….
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@KiwiMurph said in Final: Blues vs Crusaders:
@kev said in Final: Blues vs Crusaders:
Nothing wrong with Nock
Nock has a history of underwhelming bench performances.
Obviously tonight had almost nothing to do with him - but he's a better starter than bench player.
I thought he played well when they played their B team and won. Didn’t get much game time other than that. Trouble is once you feature negatively in an Auckland centric Blues Silver Fern feed then your number is up on this forum. The criticism at the end of this game was just petty and reflected bias rather than what happened on the field.
@kev said in Final: Blues vs Crusaders:
@KiwiMurph said in Final: Blues vs Crusaders:
@kev said in Final: Blues vs Crusaders:
Nothing wrong with Nock
Nock has a history of underwhelming bench performances.
Obviously tonight had almost nothing to do with him - but he's a better starter than bench player.
I thought he played well when they played their B team and won. Didn’t get much game time other than that. Trouble is once you feature negatively in an Auckland centric Blues Silver Fern feed then your number is up on this forum. The criticism at the end of this game was just petty and reflected bias rather than what happened on the field.
I've long been a fan of Nock.
I really thought he was gonna kick on when in 2020 Super he started against the Stormers in Cape Town and had a blinder and then really seemed to have the Blues 9 shirt for a few games after that (post-Covid break).
Then he got in trouble off of the field and lost his 9 shirt and he has never regained the same form.
Watch his attempted tackle on Ardie in the Canes game this year. Watch his effort tonight. He's not a good bench player. Obviously makes no difference tonight.
There are parts to Nock's game that are class. But he has just never been able to kick on and devleop.
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@kev said in Final: Blues vs Crusaders:
@KiwiMurph said in Final: Blues vs Crusaders:
@kev said in Final: Blues vs Crusaders:
Nothing wrong with Nock
Nock has a history of underwhelming bench performances.
Obviously tonight had almost nothing to do with him - but he's a better starter than bench player.
I thought he played well when they played their B team and won. Didn’t get much game time other than that. Trouble is once you feature negatively in an Auckland centric Blues Silver Fern feed then your number is up on this forum. The criticism at the end of this game was just petty and reflected bias rather than what happened on the field.
I've long been a fan of Nock.
I really thought he was gonna kick on when in 2020 Super he started against the Stormers in Cape Town and had a blinder and then really seemed to have the Blues 9 shirt for a few games after that (post-Covid break).
Then he got in trouble off of the field and lost his 9 shirt and he has never regained the same form.
Watch his attempted tackle on Ardie in the Canes game this year. Watch his effort tonight. He's not a good bench player. Obviously makes no difference tonight.
There are parts to Nock's game that are class. But he has just never been able to kick on and devleop.
@KiwiMurph said in Final: Blues vs Crusaders:
There are parts to Nock's game that are class. But he has just never been able to kick on and devleop.
He has a good pass. He’s painfully stupid. I don’t think that can be fixed
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@akan004 Newell looks the goods to me but maybe one rookie prop at a time and Ross is first up.
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@kev said in Final: Blues vs Crusaders:
@KiwiMurph said in Final: Blues vs Crusaders:
@kev said in Final: Blues vs Crusaders:
Nothing wrong with Nock
Nock has a history of underwhelming bench performances.
Obviously tonight had almost nothing to do with him - but he's a better starter than bench player.
I thought he played well when they played their B team and won. Didn’t get much game time other than that. Trouble is once you feature negatively in an Auckland centric Blues Silver Fern feed then your number is up on this forum. The criticism at the end of this game was just petty and reflected bias rather than what happened on the field.
I've long been a fan of Nock.
I really thought he was gonna kick on when in 2020 Super he started against the Stormers in Cape Town and had a blinder and then really seemed to have the Blues 9 shirt for a few games after that (post-Covid break).
Then he got in trouble off of the field and lost his 9 shirt and he has never regained the same form.
Watch his attempted tackle on Ardie in the Canes game this year. Watch his effort tonight. He's not a good bench player. Obviously makes no difference tonight.
There are parts to Nock's game that are class. But he has just never been able to kick on and devleop.
@KiwiMurph said in Final: Blues vs Crusaders:
@kev said in Final: Blues vs Crusaders:
@KiwiMurph said in Final: Blues vs Crusaders:
@kev said in Final: Blues vs Crusaders:
Nothing wrong with Nock
Nock has a history of underwhelming bench performances.
Obviously tonight had almost nothing to do with him - but he's a better starter than bench player.
I thought he played well when they played their B team and won. Didn’t get much game time other than that. Trouble is once you feature negatively in an Auckland centric Blues Silver Fern feed then your number is up on this forum. The criticism at the end of this game was just petty and reflected bias rather than what happened on the field.
I've long been a fan of Nock.
I really thought he was gonna kick on when in 2020 Super he started against the Stormers in Cape Town and had a blinder and then really seemed to have the Blues 9 shirt for a few games after that (post-Covid break).
Then he got in trouble off of the field and lost his 9 shirt and he has never regained the same form.
Watch his attempted tackle on Ardie in the Canes game this year. Watch his effort tonight. He's not a good bench player. Obviously makes no difference tonight.
There are parts to Nock's game that are class. But he has just never been able to kick on and devleop.
I have the same frustrations. But in the minutes he had played this year I have seen a different player. The full game he played as an example - won turnovers, good cover defence, running off the end of the lineout, one pass missed its mark…and SF got into him again. I think the competition with Christie has been good for him.
Not playing your reserve hooker and halfback leaves your team vulnerable. That’s on McDonald.
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May I use this opportunity to say Grace needs to be in the ABs squad. Error free, one of the defensive titans, links well, and as Sam Whitelock said, he is the lineout master/leader. Sotutu and him need to be battling it out for the ABs No.8 position for the future.
