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All Blacks XV 2022

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  • sparkyS sparky

    Yeh, even though the ABs have been a bit shit for much of this year, they win another Rugby Championship.

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    I'd like to see a guy like nikora broughton and ngatoa ah kuoi have w run in this team

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      Keeping my eyepatch on. Fabian Holland showing all his skills this afternoon.

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      • C cgrant

        What about Levi Aumua ? He is on fire in the NPC. Or with the All Blacks ? His combo with Jordie Barrett would be fun to watch.

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        @cgrant said in All Blacks XV:

        What about Levi Aumua ? He is on fire in the NPC. Or with the All Blacks ? His combo with Jordie Barrett would be fun to watch.

        Someone reckoned a few weeks ago that the ABs were looking at him.

        He's going great guns. Lost some weight I think and looking fitter and faster.

        Test rugby is a massive step up from NPC though, so this AB XV would make more sense.

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        • Chris B.C Chris B.

          @cgrant said in All Blacks XV:

          What about Levi Aumua ? He is on fire in the NPC. Or with the All Blacks ? His combo with Jordie Barrett would be fun to watch.

          Someone reckoned a few weeks ago that the ABs were looking at him.

          He's going great guns. Lost some weight I think and looking fitter and faster.

          Test rugby is a massive step up from NPC though, so this AB XV would make more sense.

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          @Chris-B He plays for Moana Pasifika, is he still eligible for All Black selection?

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          • Chris B.C Chris B.

            @cgrant said in All Blacks XV:

            What about Levi Aumua ? He is on fire in the NPC. Or with the All Blacks ? His combo with Jordie Barrett would be fun to watch.

            Someone reckoned a few weeks ago that the ABs were looking at him.

            He's going great guns. Lost some weight I think and looking fitter and faster.

            Test rugby is a massive step up from NPC though, so this AB XV would make more sense.

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            @Chris-B said in All Blacks XV:

            Someone reckoned a few weeks ago that the ABs were looking at him.

            A TSFer was quoting a commentator a few weeks ago. I think they mis heard. Pretty sure the commentator was talking about Nankivell

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            • S SBW1

              @Chris-B He plays for Moana Pasifika, is he still eligible for All Black selection?

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              #189

              @SBW1 born in NZ...playing NPC and super rugby in NZ...I'm not saying pick him, but there is zero reason not to if he is good enough

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              • DuluthD Duluth

                @Chris-B said in All Blacks XV:

                Someone reckoned a few weeks ago that the ABs were looking at him.

                A TSFer was quoting a commentator a few weeks ago. I think they mis heard. Pretty sure the commentator was talking about Nankivell

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                @Duluth That actually makes more sense in a way - though I reckon Alex is solid at best - not big, not fast.

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                • DuluthD Duluth

                  @Chris-B said in All Blacks XV:

                  Someone reckoned a few weeks ago that the ABs were looking at him.

                  A TSFer was quoting a commentator a few weeks ago. I think they mis heard. Pretty sure the commentator was talking about Nankivell

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                  @Duluth said in All Blacks XV:

                  @Chris-B said in All Blacks XV:

                  Someone reckoned a few weeks ago that the ABs were looking at him.

                  A TSFer was quoting a commentator a few weeks ago. I think they mis heard. Pretty sure the commentator was talking about Nankivell

                  That was me. Nankivell would make more sense. Might have to watch the replay to see if I misheard.

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                  • Crazy HorseC Crazy Horse

                    @Duluth said in All Blacks XV:

                    @Chris-B said in All Blacks XV:

                    Someone reckoned a few weeks ago that the ABs were looking at him.

                    A TSFer was quoting a commentator a few weeks ago. I think they mis heard. Pretty sure the commentator was talking about Nankivell

                    That was me. Nankivell would make more sense. Might have to watch the replay to see if I misheard.

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                    @Crazy-Horse

                    If it’s the same comment, the commentator was talking about both centres. Then said the ABs were interested in ‘him’ and that he narrowly missed out on the first squad of the year. It was confusing but I think the ‘him’ was Nankivell

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                    • DuluthD Duluth

                      @Crazy-Horse

                      If it’s the same comment, the commentator was talking about both centres. Then said the ABs were interested in ‘him’ and that he narrowly missed out on the first squad of the year. It was confusing but I think the ‘him’ was Nankivell

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                      @Duluth said in All Blacks XV:

                      @Crazy-Horse

                      If it’s the same comment, the commentator was talking about both centres. Then said the ABs were interested in ‘him’ and that he narrowly missed out on the first squad of the year. It was confusing but I think the ‘him’ was Nankivell

                      If I can work out what game it was I will watch the replay. It should still be on Stan.

                      Edit: It was Ta$man V Taranaki

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                        @Crazy-Horse

                        If it’s the same comment, the commentator was talking about both centres. Then said the ABs were interested in ‘him’ and that he narrowly missed out on the first squad of the year. It was confusing but I think the ‘him’ was Nankivell

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                        @Duluth Nankivell was more impressive in super than Ennor imo.

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                          ALB is due back, so hard to see a fresh midfielder making the EOYT.

                          Nankivell and Aumua should both be in contention for this XV. Big Levi has been a revelation in this NPC.

                          Alex is a glue guy. You could slot him in the ABs and he'd be Ryan Crotty-lite. Wouldn't let you down, but wouldn't offer enough threat IMO.

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                            Bovidae
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                            NZR haven't even officially named the coaching staff yet have they?

                            I hope they decide to select a younger player in all positions to develop along with more experienced players. It would be a missed opportunity otherwise.

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                            • BovidaeB Bovidae

                              NZR haven't even officially named the coaching staff yet have they?

                              I hope they decide to select a younger player in all positions to develop along with more experienced players. It would be a missed opportunity otherwise.

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                              Grooter
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                              @Bovidae great idea would love to see young Sean Withy backing up Billy Harmon on tour🙂

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                              • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                                @SBW1 born in NZ...playing NPC and super rugby in NZ...I'm not saying pick him, but there is zero reason not to if he is good enough

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                                @taniwharugby said in All Blacks XV:

                                @SBW1 born in NZ...playing NPC and super rugby in NZ...I'm not saying pick him, but there is zero reason not to if he is good enough

                                Nope there is an agreement that NZR won't pick NZ qual player's from MP. He'd have to leave for another franchise, MP s effectively not an NZ SR franchise, it just plays home games in NZ

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                                  @taniwharugby said in All Blacks XV:

                                  @SBW1 born in NZ...playing NPC and super rugby in NZ...I'm not saying pick him, but there is zero reason not to if he is good enough

                                  Nope there is an agreement that NZR won't pick NZ qual player's from MP. He'd have to leave for another franchise, MP s effectively not an NZ SR franchise, it just plays home games in NZ

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                                  @Machpants Has he signed for MP for 2023 and is he a serious candidate for All Black XV selection?

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                                    @Machpants Has he signed for MP for 2023 and is he a serious candidate for All Black XV selection?

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                                    @SBW1 said in All Blacks XV:

                                    @Machpants Has he signed for MP for 2023 and is he a serious candidate for All Black XV selection?

                                    He’s contracted to MP in 2023

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                                      So is the AB XV officially named as our second team? Be a bit disingenuous but if not, Aumua could still be selected.

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                                        @taniwharugby said in All Blacks XV:

                                        @SBW1 born in NZ...playing NPC and super rugby in NZ...I'm not saying pick him, but there is zero reason not to if he is good enough

                                        Nope there is an agreement that NZR won't pick NZ qual player's from MP. He'd have to leave for another franchise, MP s effectively not an NZ SR franchise, it just plays home games in NZ

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                                        Nepia
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                                        @Machpants said in All Blacks XV:

                                        @taniwharugby said in All Blacks XV:

                                        @SBW1 born in NZ...playing NPC and super rugby in NZ...I'm not saying pick him, but there is zero reason not to if he is good enough

                                        Nope there is an agreement that NZR won't pick NZ qual player's from MP. He'd have to leave for another franchise, MP s effectively not an NZ SR franchise, it just plays home games in NZ

                                        Really, I thought the opposite was true (no impact on NZ eligibility) to encourage some younger guys to turn out for MP to strengthen them?

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                                        • NepiaN Nepia

                                          @Machpants said in All Blacks XV:

                                          @taniwharugby said in All Blacks XV:

                                          @SBW1 born in NZ...playing NPC and super rugby in NZ...I'm not saying pick him, but there is zero reason not to if he is good enough

                                          Nope there is an agreement that NZR won't pick NZ qual player's from MP. He'd have to leave for another franchise, MP s effectively not an NZ SR franchise, it just plays home games in NZ

                                          Really, I thought the opposite was true (no impact on NZ eligibility) to encourage some younger guys to turn out for MP to strengthen them?

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                                          @Nepia Nope, it has been reported that there is an agreement not to pick ABs/Wallabies eligible players from MP. Obviously, it only applies to players who are actually eligible to play for the Pacific Islands, not players who are still in their stand-down period of 3 years if they are already NZ/OZ capped and want to change country, or players who can not qualify for the Islands, because they have no (grand)parents born in the Islands and can't meet the residency requirement either (like McClutchie).

                                          So, in the case of Levi Aumua, it would be against the agreement to name him in the All Blacks XV, because he's under contract with MP for 2023.

                                          By the way, it has also been reported that MP can sign up to 20% of players that are not eligible for the Islands, but despite that, there was some opposition when they signed McClutchie, because he's not Island eligible.

                                          I'd love to know what is actually in players' contracts. Do they have to sign a clause in which they declare for their country of birth/heritage - if that's one of the PIs - for the duration of their contract? Or do they have to agree to a clause not to accept an invitation from the ABs for the duration of their contract (= not the same thing)? Or is this just an agreement between NZR, RA and the PI Unions?

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