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All Blacks XV 2022

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  • BonesB Bones

    This site could come in handy for the selectors - you can go and view results, players, it's got it all.

    https://www.sporty.co.nz/metrodrawsresultsstandings#modal

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    @Bones said in All Blacks XV:

    This site could come in handy for the selectors - you can go and view results, players, it's got it all.

    https://www.sporty.co.nz/metrodrawsresultsstandings#modal

    It’s all they need,Perfect

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      The selections around this team are bizarre in my view. I just wonder who may not have been fully fit or available and who may be wanted by Baabaas. Some odd omissions. Regardless the loosies and midfield selections are odd indeed.

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        Pretty predictable side.

        Gardiner at 6 probably the only surprise.

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        • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

          Pretty predictable side.

          Gardiner at 6 probably the only surprise.

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          @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks XV:

          Pretty predictable side.

          Stevenson goes from not being in the squad to starting. An example of the muddled selections of this team. You would also think that Sullivan would offer more utility off the bench than Nankivell.

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          • ARHSA ARHS

            The selections around this team are bizarre in my view. I just wonder who may not have been fully fit or available and who may be wanted by Baabaas. Some odd omissions. Regardless the loosies and midfield selections are odd indeed.

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            @ARHS Although I am easily confused tis true, if they were short of 10s, why not select Aiden Morgan? And the snubbing of Hodgman is just really weird..

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            • Jailbreak7J Jailbreak7

              @ARHS Although I am easily confused tis true, if they were short of 10s, why not select Aiden Morgan? And the snubbing of Hodgman is just really weird..

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              @Jailbreak7 said in All Blacks XV:

              @ARHS Although I am easily confused tis true, if they were short of 10s, why not select Aiden Morgan? And the snubbing of Hodgman is just really weird..

              They aren’t Cantabs.

              The selection of Gardiner is a bit of a shocker. He got bumped off by James Blackwell in the NPC final and was a bit average tbh. There are quite a number of blindside flankers in NZ I would have picked instead of of him but I guess he only gets in because of one-eyed Ryan.

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              • Daffy JaffyD Daffy Jaffy

                https://twitter.com/AllBlacksXV/status/1587796857094373377/photo/2

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                @Daffy-Jaffy I understand the choice. He's very involved defensively with a strong completion rate. There's plenty of flair in the team already.

                What he doesn't tend to do is give away dumb penalties as much as Kirifi. Also better decision making.

                I feel confident that's what Clayton and Leon would be thinking too.

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                • BovidaeB Bovidae

                  @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks XV:

                  Pretty predictable side.

                  Stevenson goes from not being in the squad to starting. An example of the muddled selections of this team. You would also think that Sullivan would offer more utility off the bench than Nankivell.

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                  #806

                  @Bovidae said in All Blacks XV:

                  An example of the muddled selections of this team

                  Maybe the AB selectors picked the squad and then MacDonald and McMillan picked the 23?

                  The selection logic is not consistent

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                    #807

                    For those who remember the 70s and can't use Instagram ...

                    1: Aidan Ross (26, Bay of Plenty / Chiefs)
                    2: Brodie McAlister (25, Canterbury / Crusaders)
                    3: Tevita Mafileo (24, Bay of Plenty / Hurricanes)
                    4: Josh Dickson (27, Otago / Highlanders)
                    5: Patrick Tuipulotu – Captain (29, Auckland / Blues)
                    6: Dominic Gardiner (21, Canterbury / Crusaders)
                    7: Luke Jacobson (25, Waikato / Chiefs)
                    8: Marino Mikaele-Tu’u (24, Hawke’s Bay / Highlanders)
                    9: TJ Perenara - Vice-Captain (30, Wellington / Hurricanes)
                    10: Damian McKenzie (27, Waikato / Chiefs)
                    11: AJ Lam (24, Auckland / Blues)
                    12: Roger Tuivasa-Sheck (29, Auckland / Blues)
                    13: Braydon Ennor (25, Canterbury / Crusaders)
                    14: Shaun Stevenson (25, North Harbour / Chiefs)
                    15: Ruben Love (21, Wellington / Hurricanes)

                    16: Tyrone Thompson (22, Hawke’s Bay / Chiefs)
                    17: Finlay Brewis (22, Canterbury / Crusaders)
                    18: Tamaiti Williams (22, Canterbury / Crusaders)
                    19: Zach Gallagher (21, Canterbury / Crusaders)
                    20: Christian Lio-Willie (24, Otago / Crusaders)
                    21: Cam Roigard (21, Counties Manukau / Hurricanes)
                    22: Josh Ioane (27, Otago / Chiefs)
                    23: Alex Nankivell (26, Ta$man / Chiefs)

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                    • boobooB booboo

                      For those who remember the 70s and can't use Instagram ...

                      1: Aidan Ross (26, Bay of Plenty / Chiefs)
                      2: Brodie McAlister (25, Canterbury / Crusaders)
                      3: Tevita Mafileo (24, Bay of Plenty / Hurricanes)
                      4: Josh Dickson (27, Otago / Highlanders)
                      5: Patrick Tuipulotu – Captain (29, Auckland / Blues)
                      6: Dominic Gardiner (21, Canterbury / Crusaders)
                      7: Luke Jacobson (25, Waikato / Chiefs)
                      8: Marino Mikaele-Tu’u (24, Hawke’s Bay / Highlanders)
                      9: TJ Perenara - Vice-Captain (30, Wellington / Hurricanes)
                      10: Damian McKenzie (27, Waikato / Chiefs)
                      11: AJ Lam (24, Auckland / Blues)
                      12: Roger Tuivasa-Sheck (29, Auckland / Blues)
                      13: Braydon Ennor (25, Canterbury / Crusaders)
                      14: Shaun Stevenson (25, North Harbour / Chiefs)
                      15: Ruben Love (21, Wellington / Hurricanes)

                      16: Tyrone Thompson (22, Hawke’s Bay / Chiefs)
                      17: Finlay Brewis (22, Canterbury / Crusaders)
                      18: Tamaiti Williams (22, Canterbury / Crusaders)
                      19: Zach Gallagher (21, Canterbury / Crusaders)
                      20: Christian Lio-Willie (24, Otago / Crusaders)
                      21: Cam Roigard (21, Counties Manukau / Hurricanes)
                      22: Josh Ioane (27, Otago / Chiefs)
                      23: Alex Nankivell (26, Ta$man / Chiefs)

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                      @booboo said in All Blacks XV:

                      For those who remember the 70s and can't use Instagram ...

                      1: Aidan Ross (26, Bay of Plenty / Chiefs)
                      2: Brodie McAlister (25, Canterbury / Crusaders)
                      3: Tevita Mafileo (24, Bay of Plenty / Hurricanes)
                      4: Josh Dickson (27, Otago / Highlanders)
                      5: Patrick Tuipulotu – Captain (29, Auckland / Blues)
                      6: Dominic Gardiner (21, Canterbury / Crusaders)
                      7: Luke Jacobson (25, Waikato / Chiefs)
                      8: Marino Mikaele-Tu’u (24, Hawke’s Bay / Highlanders)
                      9: TJ Perenara - Vice-Captain (30, Wellington / Hurricanes)
                      10: Damian McKenzie (27, Waikato / Chiefs)
                      11: AJ Lam (24, Auckland / Blues)
                      12: Roger Tuivasa-Sheck (29, Auckland / Blues)
                      13: Braydon Ennor (25, Canterbury / Crusaders)
                      14: Shaun Stevenson (25, North Harbour / Chiefs)
                      15: Ruben Love (21, Wellington / Hurricanes)

                      16: Tyrone Thompson (22, Hawke’s Bay / Chiefs)
                      17: Finlay Brewis (22, Canterbury / Crusaders)
                      18: Tamaiti Williams (22, Canterbury / Crusaders)
                      19: Zach Gallagher (21, Canterbury / Crusaders)
                      20: Christian Lio-Willie (24, Otago / Crusaders)
                      21: Cam Roigard (21, Counties Manukau / Hurricanes)
                      22: Josh Ioane (27, Otago / Chiefs)
                      23: Alex Nankivell (26, Ta$man / Chiefs)

                      LOL. That is fucking me! I couldn't work out how to see the team in the Instagram post and gave up thinking someone will post it properly sooner or later. And yes, I do remember the 70s, but only just.

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                        #809

                        The match thread has the team list as text.

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                        • ARHSA Offline
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                          Aumua Sullivan Heem and Nankivell were all original selections as midfielders. Wonder how many of them will get a start in midfield on this tour.
                          For all those calling for better all round skills in our front rowers the front row replacement selections are a step the other way. A bit like saying we don't have the skills to improve your scrummaging but we can help you maul better.
                          The loosies are odd also in who is starting in what position. Thought Gardner is mainly a bench choice and Luke J is a number 8 option foremost and MMT showed promise as a 6.

                          That all said I do wonder if other options may have ruled themselves out.

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                          • BovidaeB Bovidae

                            The match thread has the team list as text.

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                            @Bovidae said in All Blacks XV:

                            The match thread has the team list as text.

                            So does this one now 🙂

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                              Do we know how to watch this in various countries?

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                                #813

                                Haven't watched much NPC but from what I saw in SR, Gardner is as average as they come. How is he in this team? Has he stood out for Canterbury?

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                                • A akan004

                                  Haven't watched much NPC but from what I saw in SR, Gardner is as average as they come. How is he in this team? Has he stood out for Canterbury?

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                                  @akan004 iIRC he looked handy when he got on for the Crusaders, but wasnt as good in NPC

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                                  • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                                    @akan004 iIRC he looked handy when he got on for the Crusaders, but wasnt as good in NPC

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                                    @taniwharugby said in All Blacks XV:

                                    @akan004 iIRC he looked handy when he got on for the Crusaders, but wasnt as good in NPC

                                    He was completely outplayed in the NPC final by Delany, Blackwell and Bird at lineout time and he fell off a couple one on one tackles.

                                    NZ Rugby need to stop selecting teams before the final has been played. No better measure of a player than when the heat is on. Gardiner isn't up to International standard. (yet)

                                    Same goes for the non-selection of Cullen Grace in the ABs earlier this year when he was an obvious stand-out in the Super final.

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                                    • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                      Do we know how to watch this in various countries?

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                                      @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks XV:

                                      Do we know how to watch this in various countries?

                                      I can't find any other official source than Virgin 2, in Ireland. It's free to air so you may be able to get it to work with a VPN.

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                                      • BonesB Bones

                                        @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks XV:

                                        Do we know how to watch this in various countries?

                                        I can't find any other official source than Virgin 2, in Ireland. It's free to air so you may be able to get it to work with a VPN.

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                                        @Bones thanks heaps!

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                                          #818

                                          Josh Ioane is such a pointless selection considering that McKenzie and Love both play 10.

                                          Ioane doesn't have a future with ABs anyway, he's already 28, not worth investing in.

                                          Swap him out for Bailyn Sullivan on the bench, he can play anywhere from 11-15.

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