All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test
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@chimoaus said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:
The big question is what do we do for next week to turn this around?
Catch the ball. Throw passes to players. Kick sensibly.
I know it's pretty out there as a theory but why not throw caution to the wind.
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@MiketheSnow said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:
@kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:
@chimoaus said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:
This scoreline flatters us, they should have been up by 15 at half time.
A better attacking team would have hurt us a lot more
Shoe on the other foot and it would be close to 50
Y’know, I think they’d have won this without the red card, but with that hanging over it, we might not learn our lesson.
@gt12 said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:
@MiketheSnow said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:
@kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:
@chimoaus said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:
This scoreline flatters us, they should have been up by 15 at half time.
A better attacking team would have hurt us a lot more
Shoe on the other foot and it would be close to 50
Y’know, I think they’d have won this without the red card, but with that hanging over it, we might not learn our lesson.
I thought the Irish had won the match pretty much at Haka time, actually even at the Anthems.
Sam Cane alluded to the issue in his post match speech, we didn’t get into the game early, in fact when was the last time the All Blacks played a dominating first 20 min and build a decent lead that the opposition had to chase.
Shots of Foster in the coaches box looked like he was playing solitaire on his laptop
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@chimoaus said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:
The big question is what do we do for next week to turn this around?
Sack Foz tonight.
@Canes4life said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:
@chimoaus said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:
The big question is what do we do for next week to turn this around?
Sack Foz tonight.
Have you guys got monkeypox over there yet? That might help.
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@Canes4life said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:
@chimoaus said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:
The big question is what do we do for next week to turn this around?
Sack Foz tonight.
Have you guys got monkeypox over there yet? That might help.
@chimoaus said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:
@Canes4life said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:
@chimoaus said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:
The big question is what do we do for next week to turn this around?
Sack Foz tonight.
Have you guys got monkeypox over there yet? That might help.
We’ve got our first case tonight ironically.
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@chimoaus said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:
The big question is what do we do for next week to turn this around?
Catch the ball. Throw passes to players. Kick sensibly.
I know it's pretty out there as a theory but why not throw caution to the wind.
@Bones said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:
@chimoaus said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:
The big question is what do we do for next week to turn this around?
Catch the ball. Throw passes to players. Kick sensibly.
I know it's pretty out there as a theory but why not throw caution to the wind.
Woah, woah! Next you'll suggest making contact with the opposition below the neck.
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@Bones said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:
@chimoaus said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:
The big question is what do we do for next week to turn this around?
Catch the ball. Throw passes to players. Kick sensibly.
I know it's pretty out there as a theory but why not throw caution to the wind.
Woah, woah! Next you'll suggest making contact with the opposition below the neck.
@Donsteppa said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:
@Bones said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:
@chimoaus said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:
The big question is what do we do for next week to turn this around?
Catch the ball. Throw passes to players. Kick sensibly.
I know it's pretty out there as a theory but why not throw caution to the wind.
Woah, woah! Next you'll suggest making contact with the opposition below the neck.
A coherent defence strategy is a few years down the track mate.
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Scott Barrett best in black for mine, and probably the best thing for the ABs out of the last two tests
@Mattasaurus said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:
Scott Barrett best in black for mine, and probably the best thing for the ABs out of the last two tests
He had impact in everything he does, lineout great tonight, tough carries, physical in contact. Noticeable that BBBR doesn’t play as tough.
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The level of skill deficit makes this All Blacks team unrecognisable from the highlights of the last 20 years. Passes to no one, if the pass does by some miracle go to the intended recipient, they'll drop it as often as catch it. There's no bodies in motion so it makes no difference if we have Aaron Smith throwing passes or Quentin Kenihan.
Ireland knew we'd be playing wider off the ruck and simply had another player come forward so we weren't attacking the fold. No pick and goes to keep them tighter. Our kicking game is dreadful because our chase is non-existent.
And then the crowning turd in the water pipe is attempting low percentage plays to make a difference, only to cheaply hand back possession and territory.
It's unfathomable that this is the result of professional coaching.
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Complete fucking thumping.
End of the legacy, end of the dynasty.
Lost to the argies, owned by the Irish, just terrible.
Foster & the whole team MUST be sacked. MUST be.
Cane. Your time is up too mate. Sorry.
@MajorRage said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:
Complete fucking thumping.
End of the legacy, end of the dynasty.
Lost to the argies, owned by the Irish, just terrible.
Foster & the whole team MUST be sacked. MUST be.
Cane. Your time is up too mate. Sorry.
Takes 100 years to build a legacy. Takes one term of Foster to shred it
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The level of skill deficit makes this All Blacks team unrecognisable from the highlights of the last 20 years. Passes to no one, if the pass does by some miracle go to the intended recipient, they'll drop it as often as catch it. There's no bodies in motion so it makes no difference if we have Aaron Smith throwing passes or Quentin Kenihan.
Ireland knew we'd be playing wider off the ruck and simply had another player come forward so we weren't attacking the fold. No pick and goes to keep them tighter. Our kicking game is dreadful because our chase is non-existent.
And then the crowning turd in the water pipe is attempting low percentage plays to make a difference, only to cheaply hand back possession and territory.
It's unfathomable that this is the result of professional coaching.
@antipodean said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:
Ireland knew we'd be playing wider off the ruck and simply had another player come forward so we weren't attacking the fold. No pick and goes to keep them tighter. Our kicking game is dreadful because our chase is non-existent.
So the exact same failings as end of year tour last year.
But I thought it was because we were 'tired'.....
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@canefan said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:
@Old-Samurai-Jack said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:
Ireland has done us a favour.
Test rugby has always been about the team that makes the less mistakes wins. As a person who experienced test rugby in the 70s (can't remember much to be honest), the 80s, 90s up to now, the rugby that the ABs play now doesn't feel like test rugby. There is a lack of territorial awareness which means a lack of pragmatic kicking, they invite chaos near their line which more often than not has negative results, etc, etc.
It is hard to explain but in the Foster era, they give it up too easily.We have no desire to play the territory game
Because our 10 has a shit territory game.
@Canerbry said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:
@canefan said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:
@Old-Samurai-Jack said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:
Ireland has done us a favour.
Test rugby has always been about the team that makes the less mistakes wins. As a person who experienced test rugby in the 70s (can't remember much to be honest), the 80s, 90s up to now, the rugby that the ABs play now doesn't feel like test rugby. There is a lack of territorial awareness which means a lack of pragmatic kicking, they invite chaos near their line which more often than not has negative results, etc, etc.
It is hard to explain but in the Foster era, they give it up too easily.We have no desire to play the territory game
Because our 10 has a shit territory game.
It's not just on the player. It's our patterns and tactics
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The level of skill deficit makes this All Blacks team unrecognisable from the highlights of the last 20 years. Passes to no one, if the pass does by some miracle go to the intended recipient, they'll drop it as often as catch it. There's no bodies in motion so it makes no difference if we have Aaron Smith throwing passes or Quentin Kenihan.
Ireland knew we'd be playing wider off the ruck and simply had another player come forward so we weren't attacking the fold. No pick and goes to keep them tighter. Our kicking game is dreadful because our chase is non-existent.
And then the crowning turd in the water pipe is attempting low percentage plays to make a difference, only to cheaply hand back possession and territory.
It's unfathomable that this is the result of professional coaching.
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I don't rule out the possibility NZR might ask Foster to go. That was a pretty shambolic performance. A repeat next week and/or in the RC and Robertson might sweep in.
@Damo said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:
I don't rule out the possibility NZR might ask Foster to go. That was a pretty shambolic performance. A repeat next week and/or in the RC and Robertson might sweep in.
They have investors to keep happy now
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@nzzp said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:
these commentators are superifical and shit. FFS.
They live The Fern motto
"Awful analysis, incorrect conclusions, zero insight. Wrong about pretty much everything"
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:
@nzzp said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:
these commentators are superifical and shit. FFS.
They live The Fern motto
"Awful analysis, incorrect conclusions, zero insight. Wrong about pretty much everything"
Difference is we get upvotes for all of that and they get none!
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@No-Quarter said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:
@Canerbry said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:
@chimoaus said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:
@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:
I hate this
Innate to day the Crusaders team would be an improvement on this dross.
They would at least have been able to get the ball to Mo'unga and Jordan.
Mo'unga had 30 odd minutes and didn't do a fucking thing. Because our 10s aren't the problem, our coaching group is. Absolutely brainless performance, made all the worse as we have both Razor and Rennie, NZers, that would love to coach the ABs, and one is stuck in SR and the other we let go overseas. Picking Foster as the head coach after Hansen was fucking insane at the time, and after loses to Argentina and Ireland at home in amongst other dross served up by a talented group of players, is even more insane now in hindsight. Jobs for fucking mates and we're paying the price.
I'm not too worried about losing Rennie tbh, not saying he is a bad coach but he doesn't seem to have (so far) catalysed the Wallabies?
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:
@No-Quarter said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:
@Canerbry said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:
@chimoaus said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:
@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:
I hate this
Innate to day the Crusaders team would be an improvement on this dross.
They would at least have been able to get the ball to Mo'unga and Jordan.
Mo'unga had 30 odd minutes and didn't do a fucking thing. Because our 10s aren't the problem, our coaching group is. Absolutely brainless performance, made all the worse as we have both Razor and Rennie, NZers, that would love to coach the ABs, and one is stuck in SR and the other we let go overseas. Picking Foster as the head coach after Hansen was fucking insane at the time, and after loses to Argentina and Ireland at home in amongst other dross served up by a talented group of players, is even more insane now in hindsight. Jobs for fucking mates and we're paying the price.
I'm not too worried about losing Rennie tbh, not saying he is a bad coach but he doesn't seem to have (so far) catalysed the Wallabies?
The Wallabies are showing signs of improving and building towards something. Might this be the year the ABs and Wallabies trajectories cross over?
