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All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider

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  • L LABCAT

    Two questions:

    1. why didn't the AB's take the three towards the end? This is test match rugby not super rugby!

    2. would Aki be AB's 12 now if he had stayed in NZ?

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    @LABCAT said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

    Two questions:

    1. why didn't the AB's take the three towards the end? This is test match rugby not super rugby!

    2. would Aki be AB's 12 now if he had stayed in NZ?

    3 not enough but should have gone for scrum or line out

    No. Same scenario as Hadley Parkes

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    • M Machpants

      @Billy-Tell said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

      Picked Ireland England SA today. Sadly ⅓ so far.

      I'm one from 4, England, SA, Scotland next

      Yep, once again, not just the loss. It's the lack of anything coherent as a team that makes it so annoying. You can see we have some stellar individuals (among with some dead weight that needs to be dropped, cane, Taylor, etc) so it's totally a coaching issue

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      @Machpants said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

      @Billy-Tell said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

      Picked Ireland England SA today. Sadly ⅓ so far.

      I'm one from 4, England, SA, Scotland next

      Yep, once again, not just the loss. It's the lack of anything coherent as a team that makes it so annoying. You can see we have some stellar individuals (among with some dead weight that needs to be dropped, cane, Taylor, etc) so it's totally a coaching issue

      Yes. The leadership group HAS to be questioned now, as does the direction that the team is taking and all including the fisheads given a good clearout.

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        The yc was a bit ridiculous, as the precedent had already been set within the same series, but Ireland fully deserved the win. Sad times. Codie Taylor still living from his reputation circa 2017.

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        • StagS Stag

          @Victor-Meldrew Razor would bring a complete overhaul of the team and the culture with him. And make McDonald his assistant.

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          @Stag said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

          @Victor-Meldrew Razor would bring a complete overhaul of the team and the culture with him. And make McDonald his assistant.

          It's never that simple. And it's plain dumb to impose a culture - almost always ends badly.

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            What is our record at Westpac?

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            • N Nevorian

              What is our record at Westpac?

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              @Nevorian Haven't won in the last four tests there?

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              • canefanC canefan

                I can't ever remember being this disappointed as an AB supporter. 1998?

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                @canefan probably the World Cup exits for me but outside that , this is it

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                • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                  @Frank said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                  @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                  @Frank said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                  Razor will sort that out.

                  Changing culture doesn't come from the top - it has to come from the players themselves.

                  It does when they are dropped.

                  Just dropping players won't improve the culture - unless you want one of fear which never works.

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                  @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                  @Frank said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                  @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                  @Frank said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                  Razor will sort that out.

                  Changing culture doesn't come from the top - it has to come from the players themselves.

                  It does when they are dropped.

                  Just dropping players won't improve the culture - unless you want one of fear which never works.

                  You are massively underestimating the influence the coach has on the culture. A new leader in any organisation can have a huge effect on employees with the right leadership. It's just abundantly clear Foster doesn't foster a culture of excellence (sorry had to with the pun)

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                  • FrankF Frank

                    I don't fuckin care if Razor picks the Cantablacks initially.
                    I just want to see a coherent and unified gameplan that the players are fully committed to.

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                    @Frank said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                    I don't fuckin care if Razor picks the Cantablacks initially.
                    I just want to see a coherent and unified gameplan that the players are fully committed to.

                    Fuck any games planning watt all, beyond some of our players are pretty flash would do!

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                      I turned the TV off. For those still watching - can anyone tell me if Foster has done the decent thing and resigned yet?

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                      • number9N number9

                        We scored no tries off set piece or any structure all opportunitistic tries. Poor.coaching.

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                        @number9 said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                        We scored no tries off set piece or any structure all opportunitistic tries. Poor.coaching.

                        I'd hardly call Akira's try opportunistic. It was a classic loose forward try brilliantly taken.

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                        • N Nevorian

                          What is our record at Westpac?

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                          @Nevorian said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                          What is our record at Westpac?

                          Crap

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                            What is our record at Westpac?

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                            @Nevorian said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                            What is our record at Westpac?

                            Last 6 are draws or losses? Sky stadium, says it all

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                            • DamoD Damo

                              I turned the TV off. For those still watching - can anyone tell me if Foster has done the decent thing and resigned yet?

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                              @Damo said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                              I turned the TV off. For those still watching - can anyone tell me if Foster has done the decent thing and resigned yet?

                              Not interviewed yet.

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                              • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

                                @LABCAT said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                                Two questions:

                                1. why didn't the AB's take the three towards the end? This is test match rugby not super rugby!

                                2. would Aki be AB's 12 now if he had stayed in NZ?

                                3 not enough but should have gone for scrum or line out

                                No. Same scenario as Hadley Parkes

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                                @MiketheSnow said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                                No. Same scenario as Hadley Parkes

                                Hadleigh Parkes didn't suit NZ rugby style.

                                Aki was very effective for the Chiefs and should have made the ABs in 2013

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                                • N Nevorian

                                  What is our record at Westpac?

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                                  @Nevorian said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                                  What is our record at Westpac?

                                  Bloody Shit. Should never have moved from Athletic Park

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                                  • M Machpants

                                    @Billy-Tell said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                                    Picked Ireland England SA today. Sadly ⅓ so far.

                                    I'm one from 4, England, SA, Scotland next

                                    Yep, once again, not just the loss. It's the lack of anything coherent as a team that makes it so annoying. You can see we have some stellar individuals (among with some dead weight that needs to be dropped, cane, Taylor, etc) so it's totally a coaching issue

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                                    @Machpants said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                                    @Billy-Tell said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                                    Picked Ireland England SA today. Sadly ⅓ so far.

                                    I'm one from 4, England, SA, Scotland next

                                    Yep, once again, not just the loss. It's the lack of anything coherent as a team that makes it so annoying. You can see we have some stellar individuals (among with some dead weight that needs to be dropped, cane, Taylor, etc) so it's totally a coaching issue

                                    Its that and more. The players who make mistakes and don’t make passes when they should - they are not coaching issues. The ability to take your chances at this level is huge.

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                                    • DamoD Damo

                                      I turned the TV off. For those still watching - can anyone tell me if Foster has done the decent thing and resigned yet?

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                                      @Damo hopefully they hang on to him until the Bledisloe.

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                                        That was ominously similar to the defeat in Paris.

                                        Shithouse first half.

                                        Minutes 40-60 went up the middle direct.

                                        Minutes 60-80 faded.

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                                        • S stodders

                                          Lost home series to Ireland - check

                                          What's else could this season hold...

                                          Lose both tests in SA
                                          Lose Bledisloe
                                          Lose to Scotland on EOYT
                                          Lose to Wales on EOYT

                                          That's the trajectory NZ are on right now. There is no fear. Opponents sense blood in the water. They know NZ have the capability of scoring something out of nothing, but so do Fiji!

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                                          @stodders said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                                          Lost home series to Ireland - check

                                          What's else could this season hold...

                                          Lose both tests in SA
                                          Lose Bledisloe
                                          Lose to Scotland on EOYT
                                          Lose to Wales on EOYT

                                          That's the trajectory NZ are on right now. There is no fear. Opponents sense blood in the water. They know NZ have the capability of scoring something out of nothing, but so do Fiji!

                                          Lose at Eden Park?

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