All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider
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@Billy-Tell said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:
Picked Ireland England SA today. Sadly ⅓ so far.
I'm one from 4, England, SA, Scotland next
Yep, once again, not just the loss. It's the lack of anything coherent as a team that makes it so annoying. You can see we have some stellar individuals (among with some dead weight that needs to be dropped, cane, Taylor, etc) so it's totally a coaching issue
@Machpants said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:
@Billy-Tell said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:
Picked Ireland England SA today. Sadly ⅓ so far.
I'm one from 4, England, SA, Scotland next
Yep, once again, not just the loss. It's the lack of anything coherent as a team that makes it so annoying. You can see we have some stellar individuals (among with some dead weight that needs to be dropped, cane, Taylor, etc) so it's totally a coaching issue
Its that and more. The players who make mistakes and don’t make passes when they should - they are not coaching issues. The ability to take your chances at this level is huge.
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I turned the TV off. For those still watching - can anyone tell me if Foster has done the decent thing and resigned yet?
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Lost home series to Ireland - check
What's else could this season hold...
Lose both tests in SA
Lose Bledisloe
Lose to Scotland on EOYT
Lose to Wales on EOYTThat's the trajectory NZ are on right now. There is no fear. Opponents sense blood in the water. They know NZ have the capability of scoring something out of nothing, but so do Fiji!
@stodders said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:
Lost home series to Ireland - check
What's else could this season hold...
Lose both tests in SA
Lose Bledisloe
Lose to Scotland on EOYT
Lose to Wales on EOYTThat's the trajectory NZ are on right now. There is no fear. Opponents sense blood in the water. They know NZ have the capability of scoring something out of nothing, but so do Fiji!
Lose at Eden Park?
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That was ominously similar to the defeat in Paris.
Shithouse first half.
Minutes 40-60 went up the middle direct.
Minutes 60-80 faded.
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:
That was ominously similar to the defeat in Paris.
Shithouse first half.
Minutes 40-60 went up the middle direct.
Minutes 60-80 faded.
So lessons weren't learned then
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@stodders said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:
Lost home series to Ireland - check
What's else could this season hold...
Lose both tests in SA
Lose Bledisloe
Lose to Scotland on EOYT
Lose to Wales on EOYTThat's the trajectory NZ are on right now. There is no fear. Opponents sense blood in the water. They know NZ have the capability of scoring something out of nothing, but so do Fiji!
Lose at Eden Park?
@Nevorian said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:
@stodders said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:
Lost home series to Ireland - check
What's else could this season hold...
Lose both tests in SA
Lose Bledisloe
Lose to Scotland on EOYT
Lose to Wales on EOYTThat's the trajectory NZ are on right now. There is no fear. Opponents sense blood in the water. They know NZ have the capability of scoring something out of nothing, but so do Fiji!
Lose at Eden Park?
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Should never play anywhere other than the Garden
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@Derpus said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:
@Damo hopefully they hang on to him until the Bledisloe.
I think a two out of two game loss in SA (almost guaranteed) will not see him go. But a two of two lots and the bled gone will be enough. So you're in with a changed to get the bled back and finish off foster
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@Damo said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:
I turned the TV off. For those still watching - can anyone tell me if Foster has done the decent thing and resigned yet?
Not interviewed yet.
@Kirwan said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:
@Damo said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:
I turned the TV off. For those still watching - can anyone tell me if Foster has done the decent thing and resigned yet?
Not interviewed yet.
First question at the press conference is surely
"Just a question around timing. Will you resign now or are you going to give it a few days and resign next week".
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@Kirwan said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:
@Damo said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:
I turned the TV off. For those still watching - can anyone tell me if Foster has done the decent thing and resigned yet?
Not interviewed yet.
First question at the press conference is surely
"Just a question around timing. Will you resign now or are you going to give it a few days and resign next week".
@Damo said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:
@Kirwan said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:
@Damo said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:
I turned the TV off. For those still watching - can anyone tell me if Foster has done the decent thing and resigned yet?
Not interviewed yet.
First question at the press conference is surely
"Just a question around timing. Will you resign now or are you going to give it a few days and resign next week".
He'll never resign, it'll all be about learnings, and excitement, and how much Ireland have improved
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@Kirwan said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:
@Damo said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:
I turned the TV off. For those still watching - can anyone tell me if Foster has done the decent thing and resigned yet?
Not interviewed yet.
First question at the press conference is surely
"Just a question around timing. Will you resign now or are you going to give it a few days and resign next week".
@Damo said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:
@Kirwan said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:
@Damo said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:
I turned the TV off. For those still watching - can anyone tell me if Foster has done the decent thing and resigned yet?
Not interviewed yet.
First question at the press conference is surely
"Just a question around timing. Will you resign now or are you going to give it a few days and resign next week".
He has to go. The only decent thing he can do. If Foster stays we are in for a very bad few years.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:
@Frank said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:
@Frank said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:
Razor will sort that out.
Changing culture doesn't come from the top - it has to come from the players themselves.
It does when they are dropped.
Just dropping players won't improve the culture - unless you want one of fear which never works.
You are massively underestimating the influence the coach has on the culture. A new leader in any organisation can have a huge effect on employees with the right leadership. It's just abundantly clear Foster doesn't foster a culture of excellence (sorry had to with the pun)
@No-Quarter said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:
@Frank said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:
@Frank said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:
Razor will sort that out.
Changing culture doesn't come from the top - it has to come from the players themselves.
It does when they are dropped.
Just dropping players won't improve the culture - unless you want one of fear which never works.
You are massively underestimating the influence the coach has on the culture. A new leader in any organisation can have a huge effect on employees with the right leadership. It's just abundantly clear Foster doesn't foster a culture of excellence (sorry had to with the pun)
Not really. He can lead and identify the change needed, but that will only work if the players are on board so the culture change comes from the bottom up.
Threatening players with being dropped if they don't conform (which @Frank suggested) almost always has the opposite effect.
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Two questions:
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why didn't the AB's take the three towards the end? This is test match rugby not super rugby!
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would Aki be AB's 12 now if he had stayed in NZ?
@LABCAT said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:
Two questions:
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why didn't the AB's take the three towards the end? This is test match rugby not super rugby!
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would Aki be AB's 12 now if he had stayed in NZ?
- Attempt to heap pressure on Ireland
- Probably not. I had a gripe that we don’t invest long term in guys like him but we can’t. Money talks.
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@Damo said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:
@Kirwan said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:
@Damo said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:
I turned the TV off. For those still watching - can anyone tell me if Foster has done the decent thing and resigned yet?
Not interviewed yet.
First question at the press conference is surely
"Just a question around timing. Will you resign now or are you going to give it a few days and resign next week".
He has to go. The only decent thing he can do. If Foster stays we are in for a very bad few years.
@mencey said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:
@Damo said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:
@Kirwan said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:
@Damo said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:
I turned the TV off. For those still watching - can anyone tell me if Foster has done the decent thing and resigned yet?
Not interviewed yet.
First question at the press conference is surely
"Just a question around timing. Will you resign now or are you going to give it a few days and resign next week".
He has to go. The only decent thing he can do. If Foster stays we are in for
amore very badfewyears.Yup
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Ireland tonight reminded me of a team I used to know.
Stoked for them
Completely destroyed us
Reiko Ionie is a poke centre.
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@Kirwan said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:
Didn’t resign. Has to be sacked.
No, he can keep the title. Just don't let him near the team.
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Well done to Ireland. I actually don't think they are an amazing team, but they do the basics really really well.
Cane being subbed at 65 mins (as Fitzy just said on tv) is not a good look.
Foster has fucked up his outhalves. fucked up his centres. fucked up the back row.
Lastly. The referring inconsistencies from week to week are fucking embarrassing. Ireland had 2 red cards today by current standards. I don't think they are reds personally but if the offences were committed by black shirts there would be gifs, Alastair Campbell presentations, tweets and screams of thuggery. On the UK sky sports they didn't even show a replay of the incidents post match. The whole fucking game hinged on them, The second test hinged on them.
