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All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider

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  • Chester DrawsC Offline
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    Chester Draws
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    #1549

    And while I thought Ireland had a good chance of winning, never did I suspect they would get over 30 points. We leak like a sieve.

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    • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

      @No-Quarter said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

      @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

      @Frank said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

      @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

      @Frank said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

      Razor will sort that out.

      Changing culture doesn't come from the top - it has to come from the players themselves.

      It does when they are dropped.

      Just dropping players won't improve the culture - unless you want one of fear which never works.

      You are massively underestimating the influence the coach has on the culture. A new leader in any organisation can have a huge effect on employees with the right leadership. It's just abundantly clear Foster doesn't foster a culture of excellence (sorry had to with the pun)

      Not really. He can lead and identify the change needed, but that will only work if the players are on board so the culture change comes from the bottom up.

      Threatening players with being dropped if they don't conform (which @Frank suggested) almost always has the opposite effect.

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      kev
      wrote on last edited by
      #1550

      @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

      @No-Quarter said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

      @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

      @Frank said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

      @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

      @Frank said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

      Razor will sort that out.

      Changing culture doesn't come from the top - it has to come from the players themselves.

      It does when they are dropped.

      Just dropping players won't improve the culture - unless you want one of fear which never works.

      You are massively underestimating the influence the coach has on the culture. A new leader in any organisation can have a huge effect on employees with the right leadership. It's just abundantly clear Foster doesn't foster a culture of excellence (sorry had to with the pun)

      Not really. He can lead and identify the change needed, but that will only work if the players are on board so the culture change comes from the bottom up.

      Threatening players with being dropped if they don't conform (which @Frank suggested) almost always has the opposite effect.

      We had the same problems since the end of Hansen’s tenure. We are not winning rucks, collisions, like we used too, we kick the ball away like we do, and we have players whose error rate for test rugby is too high.

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      • KirwanK Kirwan

        Didn’t resign. Has to be sacked.

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        kiwiinmelb
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        #1551

        @Kirwan said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

        Didn’t resign. Has to be sacked.

        I didn’t expect him to , probably feels some kind of loyalty to the players in a survival instinct kind of way , ,I think he will have to be tapped on the shoulder

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        • HoorooH Hooroo

          Ireland tonight reminded me of a team I used to know.

          Stoked for them

          Completely destroyed us

          Reiko Ionie is a poke centre.

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          No Quarter
          wrote on last edited by
          #1552

          @Hooroo said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

          Ireland tonight reminded me of a team I used to know.

          Stoked for them

          Completely destroyed us

          Reiko Ionie is a poke centre.

          Hardout, we used to do what Ireland did to us. We'd be the better team overall and would weather the storm (e.g. our 3rd quarter) then would pull away and win comfortably.

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          • KirwanK Kirwan

            Didn’t resign. Has to be sacked.

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            Victor Meldrew
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            #1553

            @Kirwan said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

            Didn’t resign. Has to be sacked.

            Well something needs to change drastically.

            The same pattern over and over again. Get a good win and see progress, play completely crap and lose badly. Then in the 3rd Test reverse the order for the 1st & second halves and lose again.

            It's the complete lack of acknowledgement that serious changes are needed, from NZR down to the water-carriers, I find so infuriating

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              canefan
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              #1554

              Reado says we looked like strangers. Goldie names the coaches as culpable. This is truth

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              • KiwiMurphK Online
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                KiwiMurph
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                #1555

                I highly doubt they have the guts to sack Foster.

                I hope i'm wrong

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                • StargazerS Offline
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                  Stargazer
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #1556

                  Is this true? What did he say?

                  https://twitter.com/Aranui_Boy/status/1548237058094772225

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                  • K kev

                    @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                    @No-Quarter said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                    @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                    @Frank said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                    @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                    @Frank said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                    Razor will sort that out.

                    Changing culture doesn't come from the top - it has to come from the players themselves.

                    It does when they are dropped.

                    Just dropping players won't improve the culture - unless you want one of fear which never works.

                    You are massively underestimating the influence the coach has on the culture. A new leader in any organisation can have a huge effect on employees with the right leadership. It's just abundantly clear Foster doesn't foster a culture of excellence (sorry had to with the pun)

                    Not really. He can lead and identify the change needed, but that will only work if the players are on board so the culture change comes from the bottom up.

                    Threatening players with being dropped if they don't conform (which @Frank suggested) almost always has the opposite effect.

                    We had the same problems since the end of Hansen’s tenure. We are not winning rucks, collisions, like we used too, we kick the ball away like we do, and we have players whose error rate for test rugby is too high.

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                    wrote on last edited by
                    #1557

                    @kev said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                    @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                    @No-Quarter said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                    @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                    @Frank said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                    @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                    @Frank said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                    Razor will sort that out.

                    Changing culture doesn't come from the top - it has to come from the players themselves.

                    It does when they are dropped.

                    Just dropping players won't improve the culture - unless you want one of fear which never works.

                    You are massively underestimating the influence the coach has on the culture. A new leader in any organisation can have a huge effect on employees with the right leadership. It's just abundantly clear Foster doesn't foster a culture of excellence (sorry had to with the pun)

                    Not really. He can lead and identify the change needed, but that will only work if the players are on board so the culture change comes from the bottom up.

                    Threatening players with being dropped if they don't conform (which @Frank suggested) almost always has the opposite effect.

                    We had the same problems since the end of Hansen’s tenure. We are not winning rucks, collisions, like we used too, we kick the ball away like we do, and we have players whose error rate for test rugby is too high.

                    I'd argue that started during Hansen's reign. I'd also argue that Foster isn't the man to fix it.

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                      BerniesCorner
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #1558

                      One thing that has really frustrated me is when people say that a particularly coach hasn't got international experience.
                      Great coaches are just great. People follow.

                      We need detailed planning and organization. Our players are ok

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                      • StargazerS Stargazer

                        Is this true? What did he say?

                        https://twitter.com/Aranui_Boy/status/1548237058094772225

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                        number9
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                        #1559

                        @Stargazer throwing him under the bus? Fitzy wi be telling the truth. He hates losing a d there is nothing to say when you lose a series at home.

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                        • StargazerS Stargazer

                          Is this true? What did he say?

                          https://twitter.com/Aranui_Boy/status/1548237058094772225

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                          Machpants
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #1560

                          @Stargazer said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                          Is this true? What did he say?

                          https://twitter.com/Aranui_Boy/status/1548237058094772225

                          Probably a fuck lot more polite then what were saying on here

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                          • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                            @kev said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                            @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                            @No-Quarter said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                            @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                            @Frank said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                            @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                            @Frank said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                            Razor will sort that out.

                            Changing culture doesn't come from the top - it has to come from the players themselves.

                            It does when they are dropped.

                            Just dropping players won't improve the culture - unless you want one of fear which never works.

                            You are massively underestimating the influence the coach has on the culture. A new leader in any organisation can have a huge effect on employees with the right leadership. It's just abundantly clear Foster doesn't foster a culture of excellence (sorry had to with the pun)

                            Not really. He can lead and identify the change needed, but that will only work if the players are on board so the culture change comes from the bottom up.

                            Threatening players with being dropped if they don't conform (which @Frank suggested) almost always has the opposite effect.

                            We had the same problems since the end of Hansen’s tenure. We are not winning rucks, collisions, like we used too, we kick the ball away like we do, and we have players whose error rate for test rugby is too high.

                            I'd argue that started during Hansen's reign. I'd also argue that Foster isn't the man to fix it.

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                            kev
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #1561

                            @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                            @kev said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                            @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                            @No-Quarter said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                            @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                            @Frank said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                            @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                            @Frank said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                            Razor will sort that out.

                            Changing culture doesn't come from the top - it has to come from the players themselves.

                            It does when they are dropped.

                            Just dropping players won't improve the culture - unless you want one of fear which never works.

                            You are massively underestimating the influence the coach has on the culture. A new leader in any organisation can have a huge effect on employees with the right leadership. It's just abundantly clear Foster doesn't foster a culture of excellence (sorry had to with the pun)

                            Not really. He can lead and identify the change needed, but that will only work if the players are on board so the culture change comes from the bottom up.

                            Threatening players with being dropped if they don't conform (which @Frank suggested) almost always has the opposite effect.

                            We had the same problems since the end of Hansen’s tenure. We are not winning rucks, collisions, like we used too, we kick the ball away like we do, and we have players whose error rate for test rugby is too high.

                            I'd argue that started during Hansen's reign. I'd also argue that Foster isn't the man to fix it.

                            Agree.

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                              canefan
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #1562

                              Foster makes Farrell, by reputation a defensive coach, look like a bloody genius

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                                Machpants
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                                #1563

                                I feel for the ABs social media person...

                                https://fb.watch/eig4uSIWKP/

                                I mean they really want to post is 'embarrassment'

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                                • No QuarterN Offline
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                                  No Quarter
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                                  #1564

                                  Lowe just gave his shorts to a female Irish fan lol

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                                  • M Machpants

                                    @Stargazer said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                                    Is this true? What did he say?

                                    https://twitter.com/Aranui_Boy/status/1548237058094772225

                                    Probably a fuck lot more polite then what were saying on here

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                                    Victor Meldrew
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #1565

                                    @Machpants said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                                    @Stargazer said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                                    Is this true? What did he say?

                                    https://twitter.com/Aranui_Boy/status/1548237058094772225

                                    Probably a fuck lot more polite then what were saying on here

                                    Wonder if the likes of Fitzy are getting on the phones to NZR HQ?

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                                      @Damo said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                                      @Kirwan said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                                      @Damo said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                                      I turned the TV off. For those still watching - can anyone tell me if Foster has done the decent thing and resigned yet?

                                      Not interviewed yet.

                                      First question at the press conference is surely

                                      "Just a question around timing. Will you resign now or are you going to give it a few days and resign next week".

                                      He'll never resign, it'll all be about learnings, and excitement, and how much Ireland have improved

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                                      stodders
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                                      @Machpants said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                                      @Damo said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                                      @Kirwan said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                                      @Damo said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                                      I turned the TV off. For those still watching - can anyone tell me if Foster has done the decent thing and resigned yet?

                                      Not interviewed yet.

                                      First question at the press conference is surely

                                      "Just a question around timing. Will you resign now or are you going to give it a few days and resign next week".

                                      He'll never resign, it'll all be about learnings, and excitement, and how much Ireland have improved

                                      Ireland have improved. NZ haven't. One of those things is in Foster's control. ☺️

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                                        canefan
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                                        #1567

                                        Aura. MiA presumed dead

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                                        • Chester DrawsC Chester Draws

                                          @Kirwan said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                                          Didn’t resign. Has to be sacked.

                                          No, he can keep the title. Just don't let him near the team.

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                                          stodders
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                                          @Chester-Draws said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                                          @Kirwan said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                                          Didn’t resign. Has to be sacked.

                                          No, he can keep the title. Just don't let him near the team.

                                          Like Test 1, right?

                                          Foster not involved in week before test. 1 from 1.

                                          Foster involved in week before test. 0 from 2.

                                          Can he just coach via zoom? 🤣

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