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All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider

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    canefan
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    #1554

    Reado says we looked like strangers. Goldie names the coaches as culpable. This is truth

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      KiwiMurph
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      #1555

      I highly doubt they have the guts to sack Foster.

      I hope i'm wrong

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        Stargazer
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        #1556

        Is this true? What did he say?

        https://twitter.com/Aranui_Boy/status/1548237058094772225

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        • K kev

          @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

          @No-Quarter said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

          @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

          @Frank said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

          @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

          @Frank said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

          Razor will sort that out.

          Changing culture doesn't come from the top - it has to come from the players themselves.

          It does when they are dropped.

          Just dropping players won't improve the culture - unless you want one of fear which never works.

          You are massively underestimating the influence the coach has on the culture. A new leader in any organisation can have a huge effect on employees with the right leadership. It's just abundantly clear Foster doesn't foster a culture of excellence (sorry had to with the pun)

          Not really. He can lead and identify the change needed, but that will only work if the players are on board so the culture change comes from the bottom up.

          Threatening players with being dropped if they don't conform (which @Frank suggested) almost always has the opposite effect.

          We had the same problems since the end of Hansen’s tenure. We are not winning rucks, collisions, like we used too, we kick the ball away like we do, and we have players whose error rate for test rugby is too high.

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          Victor Meldrew
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          #1557

          @kev said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

          @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

          @No-Quarter said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

          @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

          @Frank said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

          @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

          @Frank said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

          Razor will sort that out.

          Changing culture doesn't come from the top - it has to come from the players themselves.

          It does when they are dropped.

          Just dropping players won't improve the culture - unless you want one of fear which never works.

          You are massively underestimating the influence the coach has on the culture. A new leader in any organisation can have a huge effect on employees with the right leadership. It's just abundantly clear Foster doesn't foster a culture of excellence (sorry had to with the pun)

          Not really. He can lead and identify the change needed, but that will only work if the players are on board so the culture change comes from the bottom up.

          Threatening players with being dropped if they don't conform (which @Frank suggested) almost always has the opposite effect.

          We had the same problems since the end of Hansen’s tenure. We are not winning rucks, collisions, like we used too, we kick the ball away like we do, and we have players whose error rate for test rugby is too high.

          I'd argue that started during Hansen's reign. I'd also argue that Foster isn't the man to fix it.

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          • BerniesCornerB Online
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            BerniesCorner
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            #1558

            One thing that has really frustrated me is when people say that a particularly coach hasn't got international experience.
            Great coaches are just great. People follow.

            We need detailed planning and organization. Our players are ok

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            • StargazerS Stargazer

              Is this true? What did he say?

              https://twitter.com/Aranui_Boy/status/1548237058094772225

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              number9
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              #1559

              @Stargazer throwing him under the bus? Fitzy wi be telling the truth. He hates losing a d there is nothing to say when you lose a series at home.

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              • StargazerS Stargazer

                Is this true? What did he say?

                https://twitter.com/Aranui_Boy/status/1548237058094772225

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                Machpants
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                #1560

                @Stargazer said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                Is this true? What did he say?

                https://twitter.com/Aranui_Boy/status/1548237058094772225

                Probably a fuck lot more polite then what were saying on here

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                • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                  @kev said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                  @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                  @No-Quarter said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                  @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                  @Frank said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                  @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                  @Frank said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                  Razor will sort that out.

                  Changing culture doesn't come from the top - it has to come from the players themselves.

                  It does when they are dropped.

                  Just dropping players won't improve the culture - unless you want one of fear which never works.

                  You are massively underestimating the influence the coach has on the culture. A new leader in any organisation can have a huge effect on employees with the right leadership. It's just abundantly clear Foster doesn't foster a culture of excellence (sorry had to with the pun)

                  Not really. He can lead and identify the change needed, but that will only work if the players are on board so the culture change comes from the bottom up.

                  Threatening players with being dropped if they don't conform (which @Frank suggested) almost always has the opposite effect.

                  We had the same problems since the end of Hansen’s tenure. We are not winning rucks, collisions, like we used too, we kick the ball away like we do, and we have players whose error rate for test rugby is too high.

                  I'd argue that started during Hansen's reign. I'd also argue that Foster isn't the man to fix it.

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                  kev
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                  #1561

                  @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                  @kev said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                  @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                  @No-Quarter said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                  @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                  @Frank said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                  @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                  @Frank said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                  Razor will sort that out.

                  Changing culture doesn't come from the top - it has to come from the players themselves.

                  It does when they are dropped.

                  Just dropping players won't improve the culture - unless you want one of fear which never works.

                  You are massively underestimating the influence the coach has on the culture. A new leader in any organisation can have a huge effect on employees with the right leadership. It's just abundantly clear Foster doesn't foster a culture of excellence (sorry had to with the pun)

                  Not really. He can lead and identify the change needed, but that will only work if the players are on board so the culture change comes from the bottom up.

                  Threatening players with being dropped if they don't conform (which @Frank suggested) almost always has the opposite effect.

                  We had the same problems since the end of Hansen’s tenure. We are not winning rucks, collisions, like we used too, we kick the ball away like we do, and we have players whose error rate for test rugby is too high.

                  I'd argue that started during Hansen's reign. I'd also argue that Foster isn't the man to fix it.

                  Agree.

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                  • canefanC Online
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                    canefan
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                    #1562

                    Foster makes Farrell, by reputation a defensive coach, look like a bloody genius

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                      #1563

                      I feel for the ABs social media person...

                      https://fb.watch/eig4uSIWKP/

                      I mean they really want to post is 'embarrassment'

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                      • No QuarterN Online
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                        No Quarter
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                        Lowe just gave his shorts to a female Irish fan lol

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                        • M Machpants

                          @Stargazer said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                          Is this true? What did he say?

                          https://twitter.com/Aranui_Boy/status/1548237058094772225

                          Probably a fuck lot more polite then what were saying on here

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                          Victor Meldrew
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                          @Machpants said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                          @Stargazer said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                          Is this true? What did he say?

                          https://twitter.com/Aranui_Boy/status/1548237058094772225

                          Probably a fuck lot more polite then what were saying on here

                          Wonder if the likes of Fitzy are getting on the phones to NZR HQ?

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                            @Damo said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                            @Kirwan said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                            @Damo said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                            I turned the TV off. For those still watching - can anyone tell me if Foster has done the decent thing and resigned yet?

                            Not interviewed yet.

                            First question at the press conference is surely

                            "Just a question around timing. Will you resign now or are you going to give it a few days and resign next week".

                            He'll never resign, it'll all be about learnings, and excitement, and how much Ireland have improved

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                            stodders
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                            @Machpants said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                            @Damo said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                            @Kirwan said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                            @Damo said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                            I turned the TV off. For those still watching - can anyone tell me if Foster has done the decent thing and resigned yet?

                            Not interviewed yet.

                            First question at the press conference is surely

                            "Just a question around timing. Will you resign now or are you going to give it a few days and resign next week".

                            He'll never resign, it'll all be about learnings, and excitement, and how much Ireland have improved

                            Ireland have improved. NZ haven't. One of those things is in Foster's control. ☺️

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                              canefan
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                              Aura. MiA presumed dead

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                              • Chester DrawsC Chester Draws

                                @Kirwan said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                                Didn’t resign. Has to be sacked.

                                No, he can keep the title. Just don't let him near the team.

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                                stodders
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                                @Chester-Draws said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                                @Kirwan said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                                Didn’t resign. Has to be sacked.

                                No, he can keep the title. Just don't let him near the team.

                                Like Test 1, right?

                                Foster not involved in week before test. 1 from 1.

                                Foster involved in week before test. 0 from 2.

                                Can he just coach via zoom? 🤣

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                                • canefanC canefan

                                  Reado says we looked like strangers. Goldie names the coaches as culpable. This is truth

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                                  stodders
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                                  @canefan said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                                  Reado says we looked like strangers. Goldie names the coaches as culpable. This is truth

                                  When former players (and your previous captain), great players, start going for you, you must know your time is up.

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                                    Final thought from me before I rescue the TV from the swimming pool:

                                    It's not that we lost, it's the way we lost. Zero progress, no coherent strategy or game plan and poor on-field management.

                                    It's like watching a slow motion Tour de France crash over and over again.

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                                    • S stodders

                                      @canefan said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                                      Reado says we looked like strangers. Goldie names the coaches as culpable. This is truth

                                      When former players (and your previous captain), great players, start going for you, you must know your time is up.

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                                      canefanC Online
                                      canefan
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                                      @stodders said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                                      @canefan said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                                      Reado says we looked like strangers. Goldie names the coaches as culpable. This is truth

                                      When former players (and your previous captain), great players, start going for you, you must know your time is up.

                                      And he was trying hard not to say bad stuff. The pressure on the NZRFU and Fozz will be immense.

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                                      • No QuarterN No Quarter

                                        He's proud of how we came back in the 2nd half, and there were some nice signs there. Good stuff. Can't wait to see if we can topple the mighty Argentina this year.

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                                        stodders
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                                        @No-Quarter said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                                        He's proud of how we came back in the 2nd half, and there were some nice signs there. Good stuff. Can't wait to see if we can topple the mighty Argentina this year.

                                        Did anyone ask him how he felt about the first half?

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                                        • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                                          Final thought from me before I rescue the TV from the swimming pool:

                                          It's not that we lost, it's the way we lost. Zero progress, no coherent strategy or game plan and poor on-field management.

                                          It's like watching a slow motion Tour de France crash over and over again.

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                                          Machpants
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                                          #1573

                                          @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                                          Final thought from me before I rescue the TV from the swimming pool:

                                          It's not that we lost, it's the way we lost. Zero progress, no coherent strategy or game plan and poor on-field management.

                                          It's like watching a slow motion Tour de France crash over and over again.

                                          So this, we have nothing as a team

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