Skip to content
  • Categories
Collapse

The Silver Fern

  • Tipping
  • Team Sheets
  • Highlights
  • Results
    • All Blacks

      Search every All Blacks Test. Filter results by year, opposition, location, venue, city and RWC stage

    • Super Rugby

      Search every Super Rugby since match 1996

    • NPC

      Search NPC results. Only first division matches from 1976-2005. All results from the 14 team competition (2006-present) are included

The Current State of Rugby

Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved Sports Talk
1.5k Posts 90 Posters 176.0k Views 4 Watching
  • Oldest to Newest
  • Newest to Oldest
  • Most Votes
Reply
  • Reply as topic
Log in to reply
This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
  • MajorStokesM Offline
    MajorStokesM Offline
    MajorStokes
    wrote on last edited by
    #1399

    This annoys the shit out me.

    Speed and flow: Focus on aspects that keep the game flowing including speeding up the ‘use it’ call by referees at the breakdown, removing repeated scrums options, expanding the remit of the shot clock, a review of the offside law from kicks, and explore moves to provide the scrum-half with greater space and protection at the base of scrum, rucks and mauls.

    The speed of the actual game is fine. It’s the time taken for injuries, water, shoe laces, reviews, cards, team chats, scrum formation and general time wasting that should be game speed focus.

    M boobooB KiwiwombleK Billy TellB 4 Replies Last reply
    8
    • MajorStokesM MajorStokes

      This annoys the shit out me.

      Speed and flow: Focus on aspects that keep the game flowing including speeding up the ‘use it’ call by referees at the breakdown, removing repeated scrums options, expanding the remit of the shot clock, a review of the offside law from kicks, and explore moves to provide the scrum-half with greater space and protection at the base of scrum, rucks and mauls.

      The speed of the actual game is fine. It’s the time taken for injuries, water, shoe laces, reviews, cards, team chats, scrum formation and general time wasting that should be game speed focus.

      M Offline
      M Offline
      Machpants
      wrote on last edited by
      #1400

      @MajorRage said in The Current State of Rugby:

      This annoys the shit out me.

      Speed and flow: Focus on aspects that keep the game flowing including speeding up the ‘use it’ call by referees at the breakdown, removing repeated scrums options, expanding the remit of the shot clock, a review of the offside law from kicks, and explore moves to provide the scrum-half with greater space and protection at the base of scrum, rucks and mauls.

      The speed of the actual game is fine. It’s the time taken for injuries, water, shoe laces, reviews, cards, team chats, scrum formation and general time wasting that should be game speed focus.

      Yes

      “In particular, delegates focused on addressing barriers to fan engagement – dead-ball time, the elements that interrupt the flow of the game..."

      1 Reply Last reply
      0
      • M Machpants

        Fine goals, but when bloater Beaumont and the gin swillers are at the helm, how much will change?

        https://www.rugbypass.com/news/world-rugby-statement-five-shape-of-the-game-2024-recommendations/

        antipodeanA Offline
        antipodeanA Offline
        antipodean
        wrote on last edited by
        #1401

        @Machpants they're going to ruin the game when they're looking at dumb shit like this:

        explore moves to provide the scrum-half with greater space and protection at the base of scrum, rucks and mauls

        Brilliant. Make the game even more prone to subjective calls. The solution you dim-witted donkeys is to exhaust players by making sure there's more time in play within the game and that the two halves don't run for hours.

        1 Reply Last reply
        3
        • M Machpants

          Fine goals, but when bloater Beaumont and the gin swillers are at the helm, how much will change?

          https://www.rugbypass.com/news/world-rugby-statement-five-shape-of-the-game-2024-recommendations/

          Victor MeldrewV Offline
          Victor MeldrewV Offline
          Victor Meldrew
          wrote on last edited by
          #1402

          @Machpants

          "Language and presentation of the game: A renewed passion and urgency to focus on building rugby’s attention share via a fan-focused view of how the game is marketed, a consistent approach to the presentation of the sport across all media environments, and a focus on the moments in the game that really engage fans."

          One recommendation I'd make is: how about we scrap this sort of meaningless management consultant wank?

          M 1 Reply Last reply
          2
          • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

            @Machpants

            "Language and presentation of the game: A renewed passion and urgency to focus on building rugby’s attention share via a fan-focused view of how the game is marketed, a consistent approach to the presentation of the sport across all media environments, and a focus on the moments in the game that really engage fans."

            One recommendation I'd make is: how about we scrap this sort of meaningless management consultant wank?

            M Offline
            M Offline
            Machpants
            wrote on last edited by
            #1403

            @Victor-Meldrew said in The Current State of Rugby:

            @Machpants

            "Language and presentation of the game: A renewed passion and urgency to focus on building rugby’s attention share via a fan-focused view of how the game is marketed, a consistent approach to the presentation of the sport across all media environments, and a focus on the moments in the game that really engage fans."

            One recommendation I'd make is: how about we scrap this sort of meaningless management consultant wank?

            That's a way bigger problem than rugby!

            Victor MeldrewV 1 Reply Last reply
            0
            • M Machpants

              @Victor-Meldrew said in The Current State of Rugby:

              @Machpants

              "Language and presentation of the game: A renewed passion and urgency to focus on building rugby’s attention share via a fan-focused view of how the game is marketed, a consistent approach to the presentation of the sport across all media environments, and a focus on the moments in the game that really engage fans."

              One recommendation I'd make is: how about we scrap this sort of meaningless management consultant wank?

              That's a way bigger problem than rugby!

              Victor MeldrewV Offline
              Victor MeldrewV Offline
              Victor Meldrew
              wrote on last edited by Victor Meldrew
              #1404

              @Machpants

              Yep An hour and a few pints in Bodmin Rugby Club would impart more useful info to WR than engaging in this sort of verbal masturbation.

              1 Reply Last reply
              3
              • TimT Away
                TimT Away
                Tim
                wrote on last edited by
                #1405

                If international rugby can focus on time in play more than replays (zing!), then it will be good entertainment.

                If it goes back to the shit served up at the last world cup then no one should watch it.

                taniwharugbyT Victor MeldrewV 2 Replies Last reply
                4
                • TimT Tim

                  If international rugby can focus on time in play more than replays (zing!), then it will be good entertainment.

                  If it goes back to the shit served up at the last world cup then no one should watch it.

                  taniwharugbyT Offline
                  taniwharugbyT Offline
                  taniwharugby
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #1406

                  @Tim also policing some existing laws properly would help too (binding at rucks/mauls, putting ball into scrum)

                  I dont like the comment re giving the 9 more protection, they get enough with the amount of fucking around with the ball they are allowed to do with rolling it back, turning it, positioning it to pass/kick, not to mention the line of players they have protecting them as well (back to the binding here too)

                  1 Reply Last reply
                  3
                  • MajorStokesM MajorStokes

                    This annoys the shit out me.

                    Speed and flow: Focus on aspects that keep the game flowing including speeding up the ‘use it’ call by referees at the breakdown, removing repeated scrums options, expanding the remit of the shot clock, a review of the offside law from kicks, and explore moves to provide the scrum-half with greater space and protection at the base of scrum, rucks and mauls.

                    The speed of the actual game is fine. It’s the time taken for injuries, water, shoe laces, reviews, cards, team chats, scrum formation and general time wasting that should be game speed focus.

                    boobooB Offline
                    boobooB Offline
                    booboo
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #1407

                    @MajorRage said in The Current State of Rugby:

                    This annoys the shit out me.

                    Speed and flow: Focus on aspects that keep the game flowing including speeding up the ‘use it’ call by referees at the breakdown, removing repeated scrums options, expanding the remit of the shot clock, a review of the offside law from kicks, and explore moves to provide the scrum-half with greater space and protection at the base of scrum, rucks and mauls.

                    The speed of the actual game is fine. It’s the time taken for injuries, water, shoe laces, reviews, cards, team chats, scrum formation and general time wasting that should be game speed focus.

                    Hear, hear.

                    Particularly the prolonged injury breaks.

                    1 Reply Last reply
                    1
                    • TimT Tim

                      If international rugby can focus on time in play more than replays (zing!), then it will be good entertainment.

                      If it goes back to the shit served up at the last world cup then no one should watch it.

                      Victor MeldrewV Offline
                      Victor MeldrewV Offline
                      Victor Meldrew
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #1408

                      @Tim said in The Current State of Rugby:

                      If international rugby can focus on time in play more than replays (zing!), then it will be good entertainment.

                      If it goes back to the shit served up at the last world cup then no one should watch it.

                      Think this year's 6N's has been a huge improvement. Replays when needed, but only for the important stuff.

                      1 Reply Last reply
                      1
                      • MajorStokesM MajorStokes

                        This annoys the shit out me.

                        Speed and flow: Focus on aspects that keep the game flowing including speeding up the ‘use it’ call by referees at the breakdown, removing repeated scrums options, expanding the remit of the shot clock, a review of the offside law from kicks, and explore moves to provide the scrum-half with greater space and protection at the base of scrum, rucks and mauls.

                        The speed of the actual game is fine. It’s the time taken for injuries, water, shoe laces, reviews, cards, team chats, scrum formation and general time wasting that should be game speed focus.

                        KiwiwombleK Offline
                        KiwiwombleK Offline
                        Kiwiwomble
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #1409

                        @MajorRage said in The Current State of Rugby:

                        This annoys the shit out me.

                        Speed and flow: Focus on aspects that keep the game flowing including speeding up the ‘use it’ call by referees at the breakdown, removing repeated scrums options, expanding the remit of the shot clock, a review of the offside law from kicks, and explore moves to provide the scrum-half with greater space and protection at the base of scrum, rucks and mauls.

                        The speed of the actual game is fine. It’s the time taken for injuries, water, shoe laces, reviews, cards, team chats, scrum formation and general time wasting that should be game speed focus.

                        thats bloody fair....i think its also becoming self fulfilling...people in rugby management or commentary openly saying (or at least implying) scrums are bad and we need less....rather than selling the idea that the pace of the game will go up and down, pressure will build, forwards will work to get in the right field position for the back to explode

                        1 Reply Last reply
                        0
                        • Windows97W Offline
                          Windows97W Offline
                          Windows97
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #1410

                          If anyone does want to know the current state of the game in terms of the rules I cordially invite you to try the introductory "laws of the game" exam created by world rugby.

                          https://passport.world.rugby/laws-of-the-game/laws-of-the-game-exam/

                          Here you too can howl in frustration at how little you know about the laws of the game despite following it for decades.

                          1 Reply Last reply
                          0
                          • Dan54D Away
                            Dan54D Away
                            Dan54
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #1411

                            Was interested to hear O'Keefe talking about the 'State of the Game' conference up north. Seems there maybe a few laws tweeked /changed and we may hear about them in 5-6 weeks.

                            1 Reply Last reply
                            1
                            • MajorStokesM MajorStokes

                              This annoys the shit out me.

                              Speed and flow: Focus on aspects that keep the game flowing including speeding up the ‘use it’ call by referees at the breakdown, removing repeated scrums options, expanding the remit of the shot clock, a review of the offside law from kicks, and explore moves to provide the scrum-half with greater space and protection at the base of scrum, rucks and mauls.

                              The speed of the actual game is fine. It’s the time taken for injuries, water, shoe laces, reviews, cards, team chats, scrum formation and general time wasting that should be game speed focus.

                              Billy TellB Offline
                              Billy TellB Offline
                              Billy Tell
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #1412

                              @MajorRage said in The Current State of Rugby:

                              This annoys the shit out me.

                              Speed and flow: Focus on aspects that keep the game flowing including speeding up the ‘use it’ call by referees at the breakdown, removing repeated scrums options, expanding the remit of the shot clock, a review of the offside law from kicks, and explore moves to provide the scrum-half with greater space and protection at the base of scrum, rucks and mauls.

                              The speed of the actual game is fine. It’s the time taken for injuries, water, shoe laces, reviews, cards, team chats, scrum formation and general time wasting that should be game speed focus.

                              There is a philosophical difference between NH and SH rugby fans. No edict from world rugby will change that. The problem with modern rugby was illustrated by the RWc final. 15 vs 14 and briefly 14 vs 14 because of unintentional head contact. I barely watch rugby these days. The 6N has been a snore fest.

                              1 Reply Last reply
                              0
                              • BonesB Offline
                                BonesB Offline
                                Bones
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #1413

                                The old I don't watch rugby but this game and that game is a pearler.

                                1 Reply Last reply
                                1
                                • SmutsS Offline
                                  SmutsS Offline
                                  Smuts
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #1414

                                  Makes you miss asterisk games.

                                  1 Reply Last reply
                                  0
                                  • Dan54D Dan54

                                    Talking of laws and refs etc for the @DaGrubster , here's somone you will recognise in this article.

                                    https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/301009283/do-you-know-your-rugby-law-make-the-big-calls-in-the-official-referees-test
                                    Gone from kicking your arse at college, (and my useless son), and coaching with me as well as other stuff, to New Zealand Rugby game development manager – referees. Lol

                                    D Offline
                                    D Offline
                                    DaGrubster
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #1415

                                    @Dan54

                                    Yeah he was pretty good at
                                    School. He never coached me in anything but took Pe.

                                    He was always supportive of my batting in Cricket.

                                    I think he presented me with the Horowhenua 6 a side cup that we won and I was captain.

                                    That was the day Roger Twose headbutted the pavilion after getting dismissed😂

                                    Yes, you are quite right about your son 😉

                                    1 Reply Last reply
                                    1
                                    • canefanC Offline
                                      canefanC Offline
                                      canefan
                                      wrote on last edited by canefan
                                      #1416

                                      https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/sport/2024/03/rugby-world-rugby-reveals-radical-plans-to-speed-up-game-and-increase-appeal.html?fbclid=IwAR1sd0sWumO1lOolwiNcWiiOJ1sLPFtndi26X1zEtOuVMuFDW0fC8oXm8pA

                                      I'll believe this when I see it. But have they been secretly reading the Fern?

                                      Dan54D boobooB antipodeanA 3 Replies Last reply
                                      1
                                      • canefanC canefan

                                        https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/sport/2024/03/rugby-world-rugby-reveals-radical-plans-to-speed-up-game-and-increase-appeal.html?fbclid=IwAR1sd0sWumO1lOolwiNcWiiOJ1sLPFtndi26X1zEtOuVMuFDW0fC8oXm8pA

                                        I'll believe this when I see it. But have they been secretly reading the Fern?

                                        Dan54D Away
                                        Dan54D Away
                                        Dan54
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #1417

                                        @canefan Yep not sure what Bill Beaumonts log in name is, but obviously come in here for a bit of advice now and then!!

                                        1 Reply Last reply
                                        0
                                        • TimT Away
                                          TimT Away
                                          Tim
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #1418

                                          https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/rugby/world-rugby-consider-radical-plan-to-broaden-games-popularity/Q3B5FJQ5QJCSTO34IWXZ5JUNPM/

                                          1 Reply Last reply
                                          1
                                          Reply
                                          • Reply as topic
                                          Log in to reply
                                          • Oldest to Newest
                                          • Newest to Oldest
                                          • Most Votes


                                          • Login

                                          • Don't have an account? Register

                                          • Search
                                          • First post
                                            Last post
                                          0
                                          • Categories
                                          • Search