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  • nzzpN nzzp

    Title.

    Been saying it for a while. Showed clearly tonight once more

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    @nzzp well last night I bailed an an AB game at half time, I think I kinda.did that once before.but wasn't a tier 1 opposition and our score was mounting.

    That performance last night, well the 40 mins I saw was probably the worst half of rugby from us I can recall for a very long time, if ever.

    Our defence.has awful since McLeod took over, our attack is predictable.

    We have lost 4 of our last 5 tests, and highly likely we will be 1 from 7 after visiting SA.

    Sure the players are the ones out there missing the tackles, dropping the passes etc but these guys haven't become shit since leaving.thier super sides.

    So it falls on the coaching team, we lack a clear game plan, or at least one the players can execute, because they look lost.

    And as such this is when they start making uncharacteristic errors, due no no clarity around roles, around what they are trying to achieve, this affects confidence too.

    Is there a.coaching team that can step in right now should Fozzie do the decent thing? Cos it has to.be a.sweep, not just him.

    What time is the press conference?

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    • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

      @nzzp well last night I bailed an an AB game at half time, I think I kinda.did that once before.but wasn't a tier 1 opposition and our score was mounting.

      That performance last night, well the 40 mins I saw was probably the worst half of rugby from us I can recall for a very long time, if ever.

      Our defence.has awful since McLeod took over, our attack is predictable.

      We have lost 4 of our last 5 tests, and highly likely we will be 1 from 7 after visiting SA.

      Sure the players are the ones out there missing the tackles, dropping the passes etc but these guys haven't become shit since leaving.thier super sides.

      So it falls on the coaching team, we lack a clear game plan, or at least one the players can execute, because they look lost.

      And as such this is when they start making uncharacteristic errors, due no no clarity around roles, around what they are trying to achieve, this affects confidence too.

      Is there a.coaching team that can step in right now should Fozzie do the decent thing? Cos it has to.be a.sweep, not just him.

      What time is the press conference?

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      @taniwharugby

      The defence is the area which has looked substandard and I have talked about it before here at length.

      I am no rugby tactician at all however it is clear to see that our defense has been too passive and allows a team like Ireland to control a game while making easy metres upfield.

      We do not employ a rush defence, which is weird as we know how disruptive it is. We also don’t turn the ball over enough when defending to take advantage of our broken play ability.

      The ABs have been praised at times for their defensive work in stopping teams for long period on our goal line and with men off the field.

      I don’t think this is the system working, more a case of players scrambling like hell to stay in the game. Which drains them completely. I don’t think it’s them trusting a system to repel attacks.

      We had no answer to Ireland intricate attack today. Literally none for a couple of tries.

      We are playing outdated rugby and we have been found out big time.

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        @taniwharugby

        The defence is the area which has looked substandard and I have talked about it before here at length.

        I am no rugby tactician at all however it is clear to see that our defense has been too passive and allows a team like Ireland to control a game while making easy metres upfield.

        We do not employ a rush defence, which is weird as we know how disruptive it is. We also don’t turn the ball over enough when defending to take advantage of our broken play ability.

        The ABs have been praised at times for their defensive work in stopping teams for long period on our goal line and with men off the field.

        I don’t think this is the system working, more a case of players scrambling like hell to stay in the game. Which drains them completely. I don’t think it’s them trusting a system to repel attacks.

        We had no answer to Ireland intricate attack today. Literally none for a couple of tries.

        We are playing outdated rugby and we have been found out big time.

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        taniwharugby
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        #134

        @DaGrubster in some ways its easier to defend your line in those situations than further down the park as opposition options are slightly limited too.

        Yeah I've wondered for a long time why we haven't used the rush defence: if you can't beat em, join em.

        Everything about our game is passive and screams what should we do: what we are doing isn't working but we will keep trying it cos it used to work.

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        • D DaGrubster

          @taniwharugby

          The defence is the area which has looked substandard and I have talked about it before here at length.

          I am no rugby tactician at all however it is clear to see that our defense has been too passive and allows a team like Ireland to control a game while making easy metres upfield.

          We do not employ a rush defence, which is weird as we know how disruptive it is. We also don’t turn the ball over enough when defending to take advantage of our broken play ability.

          The ABs have been praised at times for their defensive work in stopping teams for long period on our goal line and with men off the field.

          I don’t think this is the system working, more a case of players scrambling like hell to stay in the game. Which drains them completely. I don’t think it’s them trusting a system to repel attacks.

          We had no answer to Ireland intricate attack today. Literally none for a couple of tries.

          We are playing outdated rugby and we have been found out big time.

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          reprobate
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          @DaGrubster hang on a sec, let's not pretend our attack is anything but pathetic. How were our tries constructed? How did we maintain possession and get ourselves into attacking positions on the field? How did we create overlaps and mismatches?

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            @DaGrubster hang on a sec, let's not pretend our attack is anything but pathetic. How were our tries constructed? How did we maintain possession and get ourselves into attacking positions on the field? How did we create overlaps and mismatches?

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            #136

            @reprobate

            Oh I hear ya. It’s just our defence has been a big bear of mine for a while now!

            Our attack being poor is a fairly new phenomenon tbf.

            But we do look like we run out of ideas fairly quickly.

            There is so much wrong in this side at the moment. Even their haircuts are shit

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              Missed the game. Wake me up the fire the fool.

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              • DonsteppaD Donsteppa

                Mark Robinson do something effective? I suppose there’s a first time for everything, but the odds aren’t great…

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                @Donsteppa said in Will Foster go?:

                Mark Robinson do something effective? I suppose there’s a first time for everything, but the odds aren’t great…

                Well it's been a week or firsts for the ABs, Robinson will no doubt want in.on that action.

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                  Donsteppa
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                  #139

                  For a long time there was a "Has Transmission Gully opened yet?" Twitter account. It might be a daily question about whether Ian Foster has resigned yet...

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                  • mofitzy_M mofitzy_

                    @MajorRage
                    The fans get a say when they actually do something instead of moan on the internet and talk radio.

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                    @mofitzy_ said in Foster must go:

                    @MajorRage
                    The fans get a say when they actually do something instead of moan on the internet and talk radio.

                    Storm NZR HQ? All we've got is moaning on the internet and talk radio

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                    • boobooB booboo

                      @mofitzy_ said in Foster must go:

                      @MajorRage
                      The fans get a say when they actually do something instead of moan on the internet and talk radio.

                      Storm NZR HQ? All we've got is moaning on the internet and talk radio

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                      #141

                      @booboo
                      Boycotts. NZRU only sees one result these days: $$$.

                      But it will never happen because kiwis are too laid-back and/or think it's unpatriotic or something. Despite the fact we will happily bandwagon sports we start doing well in. Think of this as the reverse of that.

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                          I think he will walk. Won’t happen today, it needs to be planned with assistants as he’s basically doing them out of a job as well.
                          Also requires his employer to get replacements organized.
                          If this happens it has to be Razor unless it is clear that Schmidt only wants the job short term. Otherwise Razor goes and another country gets to lift their game enough to beat us. Our exports are killing us.

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                            And if he doesn't go... how many people are honestly looking forward to tuning into the next Test?

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                            • DonsteppaD Donsteppa

                              And if he doesn't go... how many people are honestly looking forward to tuning into the next Test?

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                              @Donsteppa said in Will Foster go?:

                              And if he doesn't go... how many people are honestly looking forward to tuning into the next Test?

                              Not me. If they play like this they’re not my team. I’d rather watch club rugby.

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                                He won’t go. No way.

                                Food for thought …. Records there to be broken. Is the current Irish team good enough to be on this list?

                                861A50DD-775C-4289-941A-880F1B0C2A9A.jpeg

                                Point is. If they are, move on. If they aren’t … sack Foster.

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                                • broughieB broughie

                                  Missed the game. Wake me up the fire the fool.

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                                  @broughie said in Foster must go:

                                  Missed the game. Wake me up the fire the fool.

                                  What game? Was there a game on that I somehow did not know about?

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                                  • KruseK Kruse

                                    @No-Quarter said in Foster must go:

                                    @No-Quarter said in Foster must go:

                                    @Duluth said in Foster must go:

                                    The realistic option is Schmidt

                                    He starts his AB contract right now. So no other logistics needed.

                                    Does he want a head coach role though?

                                    @Duluth I know you can't answer that but I'm not convinced he wants a head coach role, so we are either stuck with Foster or we go to Razor with Schmidt taking the reigns short term. I'd love for Schimidt to take over for what it's worth.

                                    reins
                                    Sorry - but I've noticed it a couple of times now...
                                    (Edit: to be fair, you could nearly go with reign - without the s)

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                                    @Kruse said in Foster must go:

                                    @No-Quarter said in Foster must go:

                                    @No-Quarter said in Foster must go:

                                    @Duluth said in Foster must go:

                                    The realistic option is Schmidt

                                    He starts his AB contract right now. So no other logistics needed.

                                    Does he want a head coach role though?

                                    @Duluth I know you can't answer that but I'm not convinced he wants a head coach role, so we are either stuck with Foster or we go to Razor with Schmidt taking the reigns short term. I'd love for Schimidt to take over for what it's worth.

                                    reins
                                    Sorry - but I've noticed it a couple of times now...
                                    (Edit: to be fair, you could nearly go with reign - without the s)

                                    There's never a wrong time for pedantry.

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                                    • D DaGrubster

                                      @reprobate

                                      Oh I hear ya. It’s just our defence has been a big bear of mine for a while now!

                                      Our attack being poor is a fairly new phenomenon tbf.

                                      But we do look like we run out of ideas fairly quickly.

                                      There is so much wrong in this side at the moment. Even their haircuts are shit

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                                      @DaGrubster said in Foster must go:

                                      @reprobate

                                      Oh I hear ya. It’s just our defence has been a big bear of mine for a while now!

                                      Our attack being poor is a fairly new phenomenon tbf.

                                      But we do look like we run out of ideas fairly quickly.

                                      There is so much wrong in this side at the moment. Even their haircuts are shit

                                      Jordie to his credit tried to sort that at least

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                                      • MajorPomM MajorPom

                                        He won’t go. No way.

                                        Food for thought …. Records there to be broken. Is the current Irish team good enough to be on this list?

                                        861A50DD-775C-4289-941A-880F1B0C2A9A.jpeg

                                        Point is. If they are, move on. If they aren’t … sack Foster.

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                                        @MajorRage said in Will Foster go?:

                                        He won’t go. No way.

                                        Food for thought …. Records there to be broken. Is the current Irish team good enough to be on this list?

                                        861A50DD-775C-4289-941A-880F1B0C2A9A.jpeg

                                        Point is. If they are, move on. If they aren’t … sack Foster.

                                        Well they are ranked number one in the world now so it’s fair to say they’re a decent team.

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                                          https://twitter.com/stafnz/status/1548289385954963456?s=21&t=vt-LgsxN8Ag1B0EDcGq03A

                                          Stafford shitstirring, or is there a press conference?

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