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  • antipodeanA antipodean

    @Frank said in Foster:

    @antipodean said in Foster:

    @Chester-Draws said in Foster:

    @antipodean said in Foster:

    Why would you remove a coach that won against the current World Champions at Ellis Park?

    Because he just lost a home series to Ireland.

    Why does two good results trump three poor ones?

    Progress. There's now a very competent forwards coach and analyst on board apparently. Hopefully they help drive Foster to be slightly less risk averse in selections, as we've seen young props step up to the plate.

    The progress has largely happened because of "a very competent forwards coach and analyst on board" now we need a very competent head coach with a far superior record to Foster to top it all off.

    We aren't playing Super Rugby, we want a head coach with experience at Test level and a demonstrated record of success at RWCs. Like a winner's medal in some capacity.

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    Frank
    wrote on last edited by
    #2569

    @antipodean said in Foster:

    @Frank said in Foster:

    @antipodean said in Foster:

    @Chester-Draws said in Foster:

    @antipodean said in Foster:

    Why would you remove a coach that won against the current World Champions at Ellis Park?

    Because he just lost a home series to Ireland.

    Why does two good results trump three poor ones?

    Progress. There's now a very competent forwards coach and analyst on board apparently. Hopefully they help drive Foster to be slightly less risk averse in selections, as we've seen young props step up to the plate.

    The progress has largely happened because of "a very competent forwards coach and analyst on board" now we need a very competent head coach with a far superior record to Foster to top it all off.

    We aren't playing Super Rugby, we want a head coach with experience at Test level and a demonstrated record of success at RWCs. Like a winner's medal in some capacity.

    Who do you suggest?

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    • antipodeanA antipodean

      @Frank said in Foster:

      @antipodean said in Foster:

      @Chester-Draws said in Foster:

      @antipodean said in Foster:

      Why would you remove a coach that won against the current World Champions at Ellis Park?

      Because he just lost a home series to Ireland.

      Why does two good results trump three poor ones?

      Progress. There's now a very competent forwards coach and analyst on board apparently. Hopefully they help drive Foster to be slightly less risk averse in selections, as we've seen young props step up to the plate.

      The progress has largely happened because of "a very competent forwards coach and analyst on board" now we need a very competent head coach with a far superior record to Foster to top it all off.

      We aren't playing Super Rugby, we want a head coach with experience at Test level and a demonstrated record of success at RWCs. Like a winner's medal in some capacity.

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      ChrisC Offline
      Chris
      wrote on last edited by Chris
      #2570

      @antipodean said in Foster:

      @Frank said in Foster:

      @antipodean said in Foster:

      @Chester-Draws said in Foster:

      @antipodean said in Foster:

      Why would you remove a coach that won against the current World Champions at Ellis Park?

      Because he just lost a home series to Ireland.

      Why does two good results trump three poor ones?

      Progress. There's now a very competent forwards coach and analyst on board apparently. Hopefully they help drive Foster to be slightly less risk averse in selections, as we've seen young props step up to the plate.

      The progress has largely happened because of "a very competent forwards coach and analyst on board" now we need a very competent head coach with a far superior record to Foster to top it all off.

      We aren't playing Super Rugby, we want a head coach with experience at Test level and a demonstrated record of success at RWCs. Like a winner's medal in some capacity.

      Where can we find one as we don't have that now.

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      • F Frank

        @antipodean said in Foster:

        @Frank said in Foster:

        @antipodean said in Foster:

        @Chester-Draws said in Foster:

        @antipodean said in Foster:

        Why would you remove a coach that won against the current World Champions at Ellis Park?

        Because he just lost a home series to Ireland.

        Why does two good results trump three poor ones?

        Progress. There's now a very competent forwards coach and analyst on board apparently. Hopefully they help drive Foster to be slightly less risk averse in selections, as we've seen young props step up to the plate.

        The progress has largely happened because of "a very competent forwards coach and analyst on board" now we need a very competent head coach with a far superior record to Foster to top it all off.

        We aren't playing Super Rugby, we want a head coach with experience at Test level and a demonstrated record of success at RWCs. Like a winner's medal in some capacity.

        Who do you suggest?

        antipodeanA Offline
        antipodeanA Offline
        antipodean
        wrote on last edited by
        #2571

        @Frank said in Foster:

        @antipodean said in Foster:

        @Frank said in Foster:

        @antipodean said in Foster:

        @Chester-Draws said in Foster:

        @antipodean said in Foster:

        Why would you remove a coach that won against the current World Champions at Ellis Park?

        Because he just lost a home series to Ireland.

        Why does two good results trump three poor ones?

        Progress. There's now a very competent forwards coach and analyst on board apparently. Hopefully they help drive Foster to be slightly less risk averse in selections, as we've seen young props step up to the plate.

        The progress has largely happened because of "a very competent forwards coach and analyst on board" now we need a very competent head coach with a far superior record to Foster to top it all off.

        We aren't playing Super Rugby, we want a head coach with experience at Test level and a demonstrated record of success at RWCs. Like a winner's medal in some capacity.

        Who do you suggest?

        The bloke that won on the weekend against the World Champions at their version of Eden Park must be alright.

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        • antipodeanA antipodean

          @Frank said in Foster:

          @antipodean said in Foster:

          @Frank said in Foster:

          @antipodean said in Foster:

          @Chester-Draws said in Foster:

          @antipodean said in Foster:

          Why would you remove a coach that won against the current World Champions at Ellis Park?

          Because he just lost a home series to Ireland.

          Why does two good results trump three poor ones?

          Progress. There's now a very competent forwards coach and analyst on board apparently. Hopefully they help drive Foster to be slightly less risk averse in selections, as we've seen young props step up to the plate.

          The progress has largely happened because of "a very competent forwards coach and analyst on board" now we need a very competent head coach with a far superior record to Foster to top it all off.

          We aren't playing Super Rugby, we want a head coach with experience at Test level and a demonstrated record of success at RWCs. Like a winner's medal in some capacity.

          Who do you suggest?

          The bloke that won on the weekend against the World Champions at their version of Eden Park must be alright.

          ChrisC Offline
          ChrisC Offline
          Chris
          wrote on last edited by
          #2572

          @antipodean said in Foster:

          @Frank said in Foster:

          @antipodean said in Foster:

          @Frank said in Foster:

          @antipodean said in Foster:

          @Chester-Draws said in Foster:

          @antipodean said in Foster:

          Why would you remove a coach that won against the current World Champions at Ellis Park?

          Because he just lost a home series to Ireland.

          Why does two good results trump three poor ones?

          Progress. There's now a very competent forwards coach and analyst on board apparently. Hopefully they help drive Foster to be slightly less risk averse in selections, as we've seen young props step up to the plate.

          The progress has largely happened because of "a very competent forwards coach and analyst on board" now we need a very competent head coach with a far superior record to Foster to top it all off.

          We aren't playing Super Rugby, we want a head coach with experience at Test level and a demonstrated record of success at RWCs. Like a winner's medal in some capacity.

          Who do you suggest?

          The bloke that won on the weekend against the World Champions at their version of Eden Park must be alright.

          The same bloke who was part of the 2019 WC SF loss and has created all sorts of losing stats over the last 3 years Perfect lol.

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          • ChrisC Chris

            @antipodean said in Foster:

            @Frank said in Foster:

            @antipodean said in Foster:

            @Frank said in Foster:

            @antipodean said in Foster:

            @Chester-Draws said in Foster:

            @antipodean said in Foster:

            Why would you remove a coach that won against the current World Champions at Ellis Park?

            Because he just lost a home series to Ireland.

            Why does two good results trump three poor ones?

            Progress. There's now a very competent forwards coach and analyst on board apparently. Hopefully they help drive Foster to be slightly less risk averse in selections, as we've seen young props step up to the plate.

            The progress has largely happened because of "a very competent forwards coach and analyst on board" now we need a very competent head coach with a far superior record to Foster to top it all off.

            We aren't playing Super Rugby, we want a head coach with experience at Test level and a demonstrated record of success at RWCs. Like a winner's medal in some capacity.

            Who do you suggest?

            The bloke that won on the weekend against the World Champions at their version of Eden Park must be alright.

            The same bloke who was part of the 2019 WC SF loss and has created all sorts of losing stats over the last 3 years Perfect lol.

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            antipodean
            wrote on last edited by
            #2573

            @Chris said in Foster:

            @antipodean said in Foster:

            @Frank said in Foster:

            @antipodean said in Foster:

            @Frank said in Foster:

            @antipodean said in Foster:

            @Chester-Draws said in Foster:

            @antipodean said in Foster:

            Why would you remove a coach that won against the current World Champions at Ellis Park?

            Because he just lost a home series to Ireland.

            Why does two good results trump three poor ones?

            Progress. There's now a very competent forwards coach and analyst on board apparently. Hopefully they help drive Foster to be slightly less risk averse in selections, as we've seen young props step up to the plate.

            The progress has largely happened because of "a very competent forwards coach and analyst on board" now we need a very competent head coach with a far superior record to Foster to top it all off.

            We aren't playing Super Rugby, we want a head coach with experience at Test level and a demonstrated record of success at RWCs. Like a winner's medal in some capacity.

            Who do you suggest?

            The bloke that won on the weekend against the World Champions at their version of Eden Park must be alright.

            The same bloke who was part of the 2019 WC SF loss and has created all sorts of losing stats over the last 3 years Perfect lol.

            Sir Ted became the first All Black coach to get bundled out at the quarter final stage.

            I'm guessing my point is a little too subtle for you and @Frank

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            • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

              Rennie is trying out new players and new strategies with less depth to fall back on.
              Regards Foster I am beginning to feel sorry for the bloke it must be crap to pull off such a win then fly back wondering if one is facing a firing squad.

              And I am no clearer as to who makes the decisions at NZR...who are the leaders, the board or Robinson? He seems to be shuffling backwards ..

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              wrote on last edited by
              #2574

              @nostrildamus said in Foster:

              Rennie is trying out new players and new strategies with less depth to fall back on.
              Regards Foster I am beginning to feel sorry for the bloke it must be crap to pull off such a win then fly back wondering if one is facing a firing squad.

              And I am no clearer as to who makes the decisions at NZR...who are the leaders, the board or Robinson? He seems to be shuffling backwards ..

              It’s pretty simple, when it comes to the Head Coach decision it’s the Board. Has been for some time. The Chairman has always announced it as far back as I can remember.

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              • BovidaeB Offline
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                Bovidae
                wrote on last edited by
                #2575

                A question (based on what I have read):

                Why would Robertson want MacDonald, Holland AND Hansen? I understand that Hansen is in charge of the 9/10s at the Crusaders, but wouldn't the other two be responsible for the same thing? This seems like a duplication of roles.

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                • antipodeanA antipodean

                  @Chris said in Foster:

                  @antipodean said in Foster:

                  @Frank said in Foster:

                  @antipodean said in Foster:

                  @Frank said in Foster:

                  @antipodean said in Foster:

                  @Chester-Draws said in Foster:

                  @antipodean said in Foster:

                  Why would you remove a coach that won against the current World Champions at Ellis Park?

                  Because he just lost a home series to Ireland.

                  Why does two good results trump three poor ones?

                  Progress. There's now a very competent forwards coach and analyst on board apparently. Hopefully they help drive Foster to be slightly less risk averse in selections, as we've seen young props step up to the plate.

                  The progress has largely happened because of "a very competent forwards coach and analyst on board" now we need a very competent head coach with a far superior record to Foster to top it all off.

                  We aren't playing Super Rugby, we want a head coach with experience at Test level and a demonstrated record of success at RWCs. Like a winner's medal in some capacity.

                  Who do you suggest?

                  The bloke that won on the weekend against the World Champions at their version of Eden Park must be alright.

                  The same bloke who was part of the 2019 WC SF loss and has created all sorts of losing stats over the last 3 years Perfect lol.

                  Sir Ted became the first All Black coach to get bundled out at the quarter final stage.

                  I'm guessing my point is a little too subtle for you and @Frank

                  ChrisC Offline
                  ChrisC Offline
                  Chris
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #2576

                  @antipodean said in Foster:

                  @Chris said in Foster:

                  @antipodean said in Foster:

                  @Frank said in Foster:

                  @antipodean said in Foster:

                  @Frank said in Foster:

                  @antipodean said in Foster:

                  @Chester-Draws said in Foster:

                  @antipodean said in Foster:

                  Why would you remove a coach that won against the current World Champions at Ellis Park?

                  Because he just lost a home series to Ireland.

                  Why does two good results trump three poor ones?

                  Progress. There's now a very competent forwards coach and analyst on board apparently. Hopefully they help drive Foster to be slightly less risk averse in selections, as we've seen young props step up to the plate.

                  The progress has largely happened because of "a very competent forwards coach and analyst on board" now we need a very competent head coach with a far superior record to Foster to top it all off.

                  We aren't playing Super Rugby, we want a head coach with experience at Test level and a demonstrated record of success at RWCs. Like a winner's medal in some capacity.

                  Who do you suggest?

                  The bloke that won on the weekend against the World Champions at their version of Eden Park must be alright.

                  The same bloke who was part of the 2019 WC SF loss and has created all sorts of losing stats over the last 3 years Perfect lol.

                  Sir Ted became the first All Black coach to get bundled out at the quarter final stage.

                  I'm guessing my point is a little too subtle for you and @Frank

                  My point is the bloke has been in the environment for 2 Wc's has lost the last 5 out of 7 tests.You think he would be getting better One test win doesn't disprove all the shit that has happened before Saturday.

                  Has selected the wrong players,We bring in the Crusaders forward coach and we win because of the great platform set by the forwards.
                  Nothing to do with the HC.

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                  • ChrisC Chris

                    @antipodean said in Foster:

                    @Chris said in Foster:

                    @antipodean said in Foster:

                    @Frank said in Foster:

                    @antipodean said in Foster:

                    @Frank said in Foster:

                    @antipodean said in Foster:

                    @Chester-Draws said in Foster:

                    @antipodean said in Foster:

                    Why would you remove a coach that won against the current World Champions at Ellis Park?

                    Because he just lost a home series to Ireland.

                    Why does two good results trump three poor ones?

                    Progress. There's now a very competent forwards coach and analyst on board apparently. Hopefully they help drive Foster to be slightly less risk averse in selections, as we've seen young props step up to the plate.

                    The progress has largely happened because of "a very competent forwards coach and analyst on board" now we need a very competent head coach with a far superior record to Foster to top it all off.

                    We aren't playing Super Rugby, we want a head coach with experience at Test level and a demonstrated record of success at RWCs. Like a winner's medal in some capacity.

                    Who do you suggest?

                    The bloke that won on the weekend against the World Champions at their version of Eden Park must be alright.

                    The same bloke who was part of the 2019 WC SF loss and has created all sorts of losing stats over the last 3 years Perfect lol.

                    Sir Ted became the first All Black coach to get bundled out at the quarter final stage.

                    I'm guessing my point is a little too subtle for you and @Frank

                    My point is the bloke has been in the environment for 2 Wc's has lost the last 5 out of 7 tests.You think he would be getting better One test win doesn't disprove all the shit that has happened before Saturday.

                    Has selected the wrong players,We bring in the Crusaders forward coach and we win because of the great platform set by the forwards.
                    Nothing to do with the HC.

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                    F Offline
                    Frank
                    wrote on last edited by Frank
                    #2577

                    @Chris said in Foster:

                    @antipodean said in Foster:

                    @Chris said in Foster:

                    @antipodean said in Foster:

                    @Frank said in Foster:

                    @antipodean said in Foster:

                    @Frank said in Foster:

                    @antipodean said in Foster:

                    @Chester-Draws said in Foster:

                    @antipodean said in Foster:

                    Why would you remove a coach that won against the current World Champions at Ellis Park?

                    Because he just lost a home series to Ireland.

                    Why does two good results trump three poor ones?

                    Progress. There's now a very competent forwards coach and analyst on board apparently. Hopefully they help drive Foster to be slightly less risk averse in selections, as we've seen young props step up to the plate.

                    The progress has largely happened because of "a very competent forwards coach and analyst on board" now we need a very competent head coach with a far superior record to Foster to top it all off.

                    We aren't playing Super Rugby, we want a head coach with experience at Test level and a demonstrated record of success at RWCs. Like a winner's medal in some capacity.

                    Who do you suggest?

                    The bloke that won on the weekend against the World Champions at their version of Eden Park must be alright.

                    The same bloke who was part of the 2019 WC SF loss and has created all sorts of losing stats over the last 3 years Perfect lol.

                    Sir Ted became the first All Black coach to get bundled out at the quarter final stage.

                    I'm guessing my point is a little too subtle for you and @Frank

                    My point is the bloke has been in the environment for 2 Wc's has lost the last 5 out of 7 tests.You think he would be getting better One test win doesn't disprove all the shit that has happened before Saturday.

                    Has selected the wrong players,We bring in the Crusaders forward coach and we win because of the great platform set by the forwards.
                    Nothing to do with the HC.

                    But don't forget the players feelings. There's that too. Ardie loves him.
                    Fuck Robertson, he needs international experience as head coach of England first.

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                    • BovidaeB Bovidae

                      A question (based on what I have read):

                      Why would Robertson want MacDonald, Holland AND Hansen? I understand that Hansen is in charge of the 9/10s at the Crusaders, but wouldn't the other two be responsible for the same thing? This seems like a duplication of roles.

                      ChrisC Offline
                      ChrisC Offline
                      Chris
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #2578

                      @Bovidae said in Foster:

                      A question (based on what I have read):

                      Why would Robertson want MacDonald, Holland AND Hansen? I understand that Hansen is in charge of the 9/10s at the Crusaders, but wouldn't the other two be responsible for the same thing? This seems like a duplication of roles.

                      Hansen is also the tactical Coach at the Crusaders.
                      He helps set tactics and game plans for the backs.

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                      • ChrisC Chris

                        @antipodean said in Foster:

                        @Chris said in Foster:

                        @antipodean said in Foster:

                        @Frank said in Foster:

                        @antipodean said in Foster:

                        @Frank said in Foster:

                        @antipodean said in Foster:

                        @Chester-Draws said in Foster:

                        @antipodean said in Foster:

                        Why would you remove a coach that won against the current World Champions at Ellis Park?

                        Because he just lost a home series to Ireland.

                        Why does two good results trump three poor ones?

                        Progress. There's now a very competent forwards coach and analyst on board apparently. Hopefully they help drive Foster to be slightly less risk averse in selections, as we've seen young props step up to the plate.

                        The progress has largely happened because of "a very competent forwards coach and analyst on board" now we need a very competent head coach with a far superior record to Foster to top it all off.

                        We aren't playing Super Rugby, we want a head coach with experience at Test level and a demonstrated record of success at RWCs. Like a winner's medal in some capacity.

                        Who do you suggest?

                        The bloke that won on the weekend against the World Champions at their version of Eden Park must be alright.

                        The same bloke who was part of the 2019 WC SF loss and has created all sorts of losing stats over the last 3 years Perfect lol.

                        Sir Ted became the first All Black coach to get bundled out at the quarter final stage.

                        I'm guessing my point is a little too subtle for you and @Frank

                        My point is the bloke has been in the environment for 2 Wc's has lost the last 5 out of 7 tests.You think he would be getting better One test win doesn't disprove all the shit that has happened before Saturday.

                        Has selected the wrong players,We bring in the Crusaders forward coach and we win because of the great platform set by the forwards.
                        Nothing to do with the HC.

                        antipodeanA Offline
                        antipodeanA Offline
                        antipodean
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #2579

                        @Chris said in Foster:

                        @antipodean said in Foster:

                        @Chris said in Foster:

                        @antipodean said in Foster:

                        @Frank said in Foster:

                        @antipodean said in Foster:

                        @Frank said in Foster:

                        @antipodean said in Foster:

                        @Chester-Draws said in Foster:

                        @antipodean said in Foster:

                        Why would you remove a coach that won against the current World Champions at Ellis Park?

                        Because he just lost a home series to Ireland.

                        Why does two good results trump three poor ones?

                        Progress. There's now a very competent forwards coach and analyst on board apparently. Hopefully they help drive Foster to be slightly less risk averse in selections, as we've seen young props step up to the plate.

                        The progress has largely happened because of "a very competent forwards coach and analyst on board" now we need a very competent head coach with a far superior record to Foster to top it all off.

                        We aren't playing Super Rugby, we want a head coach with experience at Test level and a demonstrated record of success at RWCs. Like a winner's medal in some capacity.

                        Who do you suggest?

                        The bloke that won on the weekend against the World Champions at their version of Eden Park must be alright.

                        The same bloke who was part of the 2019 WC SF loss and has created all sorts of losing stats over the last 3 years Perfect lol.

                        Sir Ted became the first All Black coach to get bundled out at the quarter final stage.

                        I'm guessing my point is a little too subtle for you and @Frank

                        My point is the bloke has been in the environment for 2 Wc's has lost the last 5 out of 7 tests.You think he would be getting better One test win doesn't disprove all the shit that has happened before Saturday.

                        Has selected the wrong players,We bring in the Crusaders forward coach and we win because of the great platform set by the forwards.
                        Nothing to do with the HC.

                        How do you know that Ryan wasn't better at providing the clarity for the forwards Fozzie wanted?

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                        • ChrisC Chris

                          @Bovidae said in Foster:

                          A question (based on what I have read):

                          Why would Robertson want MacDonald, Holland AND Hansen? I understand that Hansen is in charge of the 9/10s at the Crusaders, but wouldn't the other two be responsible for the same thing? This seems like a duplication of roles.

                          Hansen is also the tactical Coach at the Crusaders.
                          He helps set tactics and game plans for the backs.

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                          antipodeanA Offline
                          antipodean
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #2580

                          @Chris said in Foster:

                          @Bovidae said in Foster:

                          A question (based on what I have read):

                          Why would Robertson want MacDonald, Holland AND Hansen? I understand that Hansen is in charge of the 9/10s at the Crusaders, but wouldn't the other two be responsible for the same thing? This seems like a duplication of roles.

                          Hansen is also the tactical Coach at the Crusaders.
                          He helps set tactics and game plans for the backs.

                          So Robertson is made to look good by virtue of the competence of his assistants?

                          Much like any coach that has Wayne Smith in his ear looks like a fucking genius?

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                          • antipodeanA antipodean

                            @Chris said in Foster:

                            @antipodean said in Foster:

                            @Chris said in Foster:

                            @antipodean said in Foster:

                            @Frank said in Foster:

                            @antipodean said in Foster:

                            @Frank said in Foster:

                            @antipodean said in Foster:

                            @Chester-Draws said in Foster:

                            @antipodean said in Foster:

                            Why would you remove a coach that won against the current World Champions at Ellis Park?

                            Because he just lost a home series to Ireland.

                            Why does two good results trump three poor ones?

                            Progress. There's now a very competent forwards coach and analyst on board apparently. Hopefully they help drive Foster to be slightly less risk averse in selections, as we've seen young props step up to the plate.

                            The progress has largely happened because of "a very competent forwards coach and analyst on board" now we need a very competent head coach with a far superior record to Foster to top it all off.

                            We aren't playing Super Rugby, we want a head coach with experience at Test level and a demonstrated record of success at RWCs. Like a winner's medal in some capacity.

                            Who do you suggest?

                            The bloke that won on the weekend against the World Champions at their version of Eden Park must be alright.

                            The same bloke who was part of the 2019 WC SF loss and has created all sorts of losing stats over the last 3 years Perfect lol.

                            Sir Ted became the first All Black coach to get bundled out at the quarter final stage.

                            I'm guessing my point is a little too subtle for you and @Frank

                            My point is the bloke has been in the environment for 2 Wc's has lost the last 5 out of 7 tests.You think he would be getting better One test win doesn't disprove all the shit that has happened before Saturday.

                            Has selected the wrong players,We bring in the Crusaders forward coach and we win because of the great platform set by the forwards.
                            Nothing to do with the HC.

                            How do you know that Ryan wasn't better at providing the clarity for the forwards Fozzie wanted?

                            ChrisC Offline
                            ChrisC Offline
                            Chris
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #2581

                            @antipodean said in Foster:

                            @Chris said in Foster:

                            @antipodean said in Foster:

                            @Chris said in Foster:

                            @antipodean said in Foster:

                            @Frank said in Foster:

                            @antipodean said in Foster:

                            @Frank said in Foster:

                            @antipodean said in Foster:

                            @Chester-Draws said in Foster:

                            @antipodean said in Foster:

                            Why would you remove a coach that won against the current World Champions at Ellis Park?

                            Because he just lost a home series to Ireland.

                            Why does two good results trump three poor ones?

                            Progress. There's now a very competent forwards coach and analyst on board apparently. Hopefully they help drive Foster to be slightly less risk averse in selections, as we've seen young props step up to the plate.

                            The progress has largely happened because of "a very competent forwards coach and analyst on board" now we need a very competent head coach with a far superior record to Foster to top it all off.

                            We aren't playing Super Rugby, we want a head coach with experience at Test level and a demonstrated record of success at RWCs. Like a winner's medal in some capacity.

                            Who do you suggest?

                            The bloke that won on the weekend against the World Champions at their version of Eden Park must be alright.

                            The same bloke who was part of the 2019 WC SF loss and has created all sorts of losing stats over the last 3 years Perfect lol.

                            Sir Ted became the first All Black coach to get bundled out at the quarter final stage.

                            I'm guessing my point is a little too subtle for you and @Frank

                            My point is the bloke has been in the environment for 2 Wc's has lost the last 5 out of 7 tests.You think he would be getting better One test win doesn't disprove all the shit that has happened before Saturday.

                            Has selected the wrong players,We bring in the Crusaders forward coach and we win because of the great platform set by the forwards.
                            Nothing to do with the HC.

                            How do you know that Ryan wasn't better at providing the clarity for the forwards Fozzie wanted?

                            How do you know Ryan didn't bring clarity from what he was doing with Robertson and sorted out the mess Foster created.?

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                              @antipodean said in Foster:

                              @Chris said in Foster:

                              @antipodean said in Foster:

                              @Chris said in Foster:

                              @antipodean said in Foster:

                              @Frank said in Foster:

                              @antipodean said in Foster:

                              @Frank said in Foster:

                              @antipodean said in Foster:

                              @Chester-Draws said in Foster:

                              @antipodean said in Foster:

                              Why would you remove a coach that won against the current World Champions at Ellis Park?

                              Because he just lost a home series to Ireland.

                              Why does two good results trump three poor ones?

                              Progress. There's now a very competent forwards coach and analyst on board apparently. Hopefully they help drive Foster to be slightly less risk averse in selections, as we've seen young props step up to the plate.

                              The progress has largely happened because of "a very competent forwards coach and analyst on board" now we need a very competent head coach with a far superior record to Foster to top it all off.

                              We aren't playing Super Rugby, we want a head coach with experience at Test level and a demonstrated record of success at RWCs. Like a winner's medal in some capacity.

                              Who do you suggest?

                              The bloke that won on the weekend against the World Champions at their version of Eden Park must be alright.

                              The same bloke who was part of the 2019 WC SF loss and has created all sorts of losing stats over the last 3 years Perfect lol.

                              Sir Ted became the first All Black coach to get bundled out at the quarter final stage.

                              I'm guessing my point is a little too subtle for you and @Frank

                              My point is the bloke has been in the environment for 2 Wc's has lost the last 5 out of 7 tests.You think he would be getting better One test win doesn't disprove all the shit that has happened before Saturday.

                              Has selected the wrong players,We bring in the Crusaders forward coach and we win because of the great platform set by the forwards.
                              Nothing to do with the HC.

                              How do you know that Ryan wasn't better at providing the clarity for the forwards Fozzie wanted?

                              How do you know Ryan didn't bring clarity from what he was doing with Robertson and sorted out the mess Foster created.?

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                              @Chris said in Foster:

                              @antipodean said in Foster:

                              @Chris said in Foster:

                              @antipodean said in Foster:

                              @Chris said in Foster:

                              @antipodean said in Foster:

                              @Frank said in Foster:

                              @antipodean said in Foster:

                              @Frank said in Foster:

                              @antipodean said in Foster:

                              @Chester-Draws said in Foster:

                              @antipodean said in Foster:

                              Why would you remove a coach that won against the current World Champions at Ellis Park?

                              Because he just lost a home series to Ireland.

                              Why does two good results trump three poor ones?

                              Progress. There's now a very competent forwards coach and analyst on board apparently. Hopefully they help drive Foster to be slightly less risk averse in selections, as we've seen young props step up to the plate.

                              The progress has largely happened because of "a very competent forwards coach and analyst on board" now we need a very competent head coach with a far superior record to Foster to top it all off.

                              We aren't playing Super Rugby, we want a head coach with experience at Test level and a demonstrated record of success at RWCs. Like a winner's medal in some capacity.

                              Who do you suggest?

                              The bloke that won on the weekend against the World Champions at their version of Eden Park must be alright.

                              The same bloke who was part of the 2019 WC SF loss and has created all sorts of losing stats over the last 3 years Perfect lol.

                              Sir Ted became the first All Black coach to get bundled out at the quarter final stage.

                              I'm guessing my point is a little too subtle for you and @Frank

                              My point is the bloke has been in the environment for 2 Wc's has lost the last 5 out of 7 tests.You think he would be getting better One test win doesn't disprove all the shit that has happened before Saturday.

                              Has selected the wrong players,We bring in the Crusaders forward coach and we win because of the great platform set by the forwards.
                              Nothing to do with the HC.

                              How do you know that Ryan wasn't better at providing the clarity for the forwards Fozzie wanted?

                              How do you know Ryan didn't bring clarity from what he was doing with Robertson and sorted out the mess Foster created.?

                              Now you're starting to grasp the complexities. The next step is to simply replace names. I'm going to presume you still won't understand.

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                                @Chris said in Foster:

                                @Bovidae said in Foster:

                                A question (based on what I have read):

                                Why would Robertson want MacDonald, Holland AND Hansen? I understand that Hansen is in charge of the 9/10s at the Crusaders, but wouldn't the other two be responsible for the same thing? This seems like a duplication of roles.

                                Hansen is also the tactical Coach at the Crusaders.
                                He helps set tactics and game plans for the backs.

                                So Robertson is made to look good by virtue of the competence of his assistants?

                                Much like any coach that has Wayne Smith in his ear looks like a fucking genius?

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                                @antipodean said in Foster:

                                @Chris said in Foster:

                                @Bovidae said in Foster:

                                A question (based on what I have read):

                                Why would Robertson want MacDonald, Holland AND Hansen? I understand that Hansen is in charge of the 9/10s at the Crusaders, but wouldn't the other two be responsible for the same thing? This seems like a duplication of roles.

                                Hansen is also the tactical Coach at the Crusaders.
                                He helps set tactics and game plans for the backs.

                                So Robertson is made to look good by virtue of the competence of his assistants?

                                Much like any coach that has Wayne Smith in his ear looks like a fucking genius?

                                Part of being a HC is finding and working with the best people to create the environment you need.
                                Foster doesn't seem to be able to do that as he picked Plumtree and Mooar backed them to the hilt then realise he fucked up and had them sacked.
                                Not good from a HC.

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                                  @Chris said in Foster:

                                  @antipodean said in Foster:

                                  @Chris said in Foster:

                                  @antipodean said in Foster:

                                  @Chris said in Foster:

                                  @antipodean said in Foster:

                                  @Frank said in Foster:

                                  @antipodean said in Foster:

                                  @Frank said in Foster:

                                  @antipodean said in Foster:

                                  @Chester-Draws said in Foster:

                                  @antipodean said in Foster:

                                  Why would you remove a coach that won against the current World Champions at Ellis Park?

                                  Because he just lost a home series to Ireland.

                                  Why does two good results trump three poor ones?

                                  Progress. There's now a very competent forwards coach and analyst on board apparently. Hopefully they help drive Foster to be slightly less risk averse in selections, as we've seen young props step up to the plate.

                                  The progress has largely happened because of "a very competent forwards coach and analyst on board" now we need a very competent head coach with a far superior record to Foster to top it all off.

                                  We aren't playing Super Rugby, we want a head coach with experience at Test level and a demonstrated record of success at RWCs. Like a winner's medal in some capacity.

                                  Who do you suggest?

                                  The bloke that won on the weekend against the World Champions at their version of Eden Park must be alright.

                                  The same bloke who was part of the 2019 WC SF loss and has created all sorts of losing stats over the last 3 years Perfect lol.

                                  Sir Ted became the first All Black coach to get bundled out at the quarter final stage.

                                  I'm guessing my point is a little too subtle for you and @Frank

                                  My point is the bloke has been in the environment for 2 Wc's has lost the last 5 out of 7 tests.You think he would be getting better One test win doesn't disprove all the shit that has happened before Saturday.

                                  Has selected the wrong players,We bring in the Crusaders forward coach and we win because of the great platform set by the forwards.
                                  Nothing to do with the HC.

                                  How do you know that Ryan wasn't better at providing the clarity for the forwards Fozzie wanted?

                                  How do you know Ryan didn't bring clarity from what he was doing with Robertson and sorted out the mess Foster created.?

                                  Now you're starting to grasp the complexities. The next step is to simply replace names. I'm going to presume you still won't understand.

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                                  Chris
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #2584

                                  @antipodean said in Foster:

                                  @Chris said in Foster:

                                  @antipodean said in Foster:

                                  @Chris said in Foster:

                                  @antipodean said in Foster:

                                  @Chris said in Foster:

                                  @antipodean said in Foster:

                                  @Frank said in Foster:

                                  @antipodean said in Foster:

                                  @Frank said in Foster:

                                  @antipodean said in Foster:

                                  @Chester-Draws said in Foster:

                                  @antipodean said in Foster:

                                  Why would you remove a coach that won against the current World Champions at Ellis Park?

                                  Because he just lost a home series to Ireland.

                                  Why does two good results trump three poor ones?

                                  Progress. There's now a very competent forwards coach and analyst on board apparently. Hopefully they help drive Foster to be slightly less risk averse in selections, as we've seen young props step up to the plate.

                                  The progress has largely happened because of "a very competent forwards coach and analyst on board" now we need a very competent head coach with a far superior record to Foster to top it all off.

                                  We aren't playing Super Rugby, we want a head coach with experience at Test level and a demonstrated record of success at RWCs. Like a winner's medal in some capacity.

                                  Who do you suggest?

                                  The bloke that won on the weekend against the World Champions at their version of Eden Park must be alright.

                                  The same bloke who was part of the 2019 WC SF loss and has created all sorts of losing stats over the last 3 years Perfect lol.

                                  Sir Ted became the first All Black coach to get bundled out at the quarter final stage.

                                  I'm guessing my point is a little too subtle for you and @Frank

                                  My point is the bloke has been in the environment for 2 Wc's has lost the last 5 out of 7 tests.You think he would be getting better One test win doesn't disprove all the shit that has happened before Saturday.

                                  Has selected the wrong players,We bring in the Crusaders forward coach and we win because of the great platform set by the forwards.
                                  Nothing to do with the HC.

                                  How do you know that Ryan wasn't better at providing the clarity for the forwards Fozzie wanted?

                                  How do you know Ryan didn't bring clarity from what he was doing with Robertson and sorted out the mess Foster created.?

                                  Now you're starting to grasp the complexities. The next step is to simply replace names. I'm going to presume you still won't understand.

                                  You are just playing with words it still does not make Foster a good coach when history say he is shit.

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                                    I'm not smart enough to explain this further so that you'll understand.

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                                    • antipodeanA antipodean

                                      @Chris said in Foster:

                                      @antipodean said in Foster:

                                      @Chris said in Foster:

                                      @antipodean said in Foster:

                                      @Chris said in Foster:

                                      @antipodean said in Foster:

                                      @Frank said in Foster:

                                      @antipodean said in Foster:

                                      @Frank said in Foster:

                                      @antipodean said in Foster:

                                      @Chester-Draws said in Foster:

                                      @antipodean said in Foster:

                                      Why would you remove a coach that won against the current World Champions at Ellis Park?

                                      Because he just lost a home series to Ireland.

                                      Why does two good results trump three poor ones?

                                      Progress. There's now a very competent forwards coach and analyst on board apparently. Hopefully they help drive Foster to be slightly less risk averse in selections, as we've seen young props step up to the plate.

                                      The progress has largely happened because of "a very competent forwards coach and analyst on board" now we need a very competent head coach with a far superior record to Foster to top it all off.

                                      We aren't playing Super Rugby, we want a head coach with experience at Test level and a demonstrated record of success at RWCs. Like a winner's medal in some capacity.

                                      Who do you suggest?

                                      The bloke that won on the weekend against the World Champions at their version of Eden Park must be alright.

                                      The same bloke who was part of the 2019 WC SF loss and has created all sorts of losing stats over the last 3 years Perfect lol.

                                      Sir Ted became the first All Black coach to get bundled out at the quarter final stage.

                                      I'm guessing my point is a little too subtle for you and @Frank

                                      My point is the bloke has been in the environment for 2 Wc's has lost the last 5 out of 7 tests.You think he would be getting better One test win doesn't disprove all the shit that has happened before Saturday.

                                      Has selected the wrong players,We bring in the Crusaders forward coach and we win because of the great platform set by the forwards.
                                      Nothing to do with the HC.

                                      How do you know that Ryan wasn't better at providing the clarity for the forwards Fozzie wanted?

                                      How do you know Ryan didn't bring clarity from what he was doing with Robertson and sorted out the mess Foster created.?

                                      Now you're starting to grasp the complexities. The next step is to simply replace names. I'm going to presume you still won't understand.

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                                      @antipodean said in Foster:

                                      Now you're starting to grasp the complexities. The next step is to simply replace names. I'm going to presume you still won't understand.

                                      You can make your points without being so condescending.

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                                        @antipodean said in Foster:

                                        Now you're starting to grasp the complexities. The next step is to simply replace names. I'm going to presume you still won't understand.

                                        You can make your points without being so condescending.

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                                        @Frank said in Foster:

                                        @antipodean said in Foster:

                                        Now you're starting to grasp the complexities. The next step is to simply replace names. I'm going to presume you still won't understand.

                                        You can make your points without being so condescending.

                                        Condescension is all I had left.

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                                        • antipodeanA antipodean

                                          I'm not smart enough to explain this further so that you'll understand.

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                                          @antipodean said in Foster:

                                          I'm not smart enough to explain this further so that you'll understand.

                                          I don't need or have to Understand your BS as its irrelevant to what is going to happen going forward.
                                          Your thoughts and opinions are not all encompassing that the world stands still when you open your mouth.

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