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  • nzzpN nzzp

    @antipodean said in Foster:

    I'm at depression already.

    denial, anger, bargaining, depression, acceptance

    I'm in anger. I do not want to go further.

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    @nzzp said in Foster:

    @antipodean said in Foster:

    I'm at depression already.

    denial, anger, bargaining, depression, acceptance

    I'm in anger. I do not want to go further.

    I went to bed angry and woke up realising that with no way to change anything it would be healthier to just be resigned to my worst fears and suspicions. NZR have cemented themselves to this train wreck and I've no doubt there'd be some phone calls going on this morning as they dither between two courses of action. Neither of them palatable as they'd rightly look like incompetents.

    Everything Foster's worst detractors said in 2019 has come to pass.

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    • nzzpN nzzp

      @antipodean said in Foster:

      I'm at depression already.

      denial, anger, bargaining, depression, acceptance

      I'm in anger. I do not want to go further.

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      #3135

      @nzzp I was at that after the 3rd Irish test.

      I have bailed early in 2 tests this year, I didn't watch more than the scoring highlights of the 2 SA tests, or the NH games from eoyt last year...even Mrs TR last night asked if the game was finished when I came out of my room where I had been watching.

      I was like, nah, I just don't enjoy watching AB rugby at moment...I am however looking forward to watching some afternoon NPC today.

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      • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

        @nzzp I was at that after the 3rd Irish test.

        I have bailed early in 2 tests this year, I didn't watch more than the scoring highlights of the 2 SA tests, or the NH games from eoyt last year...even Mrs TR last night asked if the game was finished when I came out of my room where I had been watching.

        I was like, nah, I just don't enjoy watching AB rugby at moment...I am however looking forward to watching some afternoon NPC today.

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        @taniwharugby said in Foster:

        I was like, nah, I just don't enjoy watching AB rugby at moment...I am however looking forward to watching some afternoon NPC today.

        Despite NZR's best efforts, teh NPC feels like it's going from strength to strength. The quality is ridiculous for a small country with so many teams - but genuinely good games all the time. We're just wasting what comes out in terms of coaching and talent

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          DC doing some coaching in SA...I wonder if Fozzie has even asked him if he is keen to do some work with BB, RM and now 1 minute star, SP

          https://www.thesouthafrican.com/sport/rugby/all-blacks-legend-daniel-carter-to-coach-future-springboks-in-south-africa/?utm_term=Autofeed&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1661517536

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          • antipodeanA antipodean

            @nzzp said in Foster:

            @antipodean said in Foster:

            I'm at depression already.

            denial, anger, bargaining, depression, acceptance

            I'm in anger. I do not want to go further.

            I went to bed angry and woke up realising that with no way to change anything it would be healthier to just be resigned to my worst fears and suspicions. NZR have cemented themselves to this train wreck and I've no doubt there'd be some phone calls going on this morning as they dither between two courses of action. Neither of them palatable as they'd rightly look like incompetents.

            Everything Foster's worst detractors said in 2019 has come to pass.

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            Chester Draws
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            #3138

            @antipodean said in Foster:

            Everything Foster's worst detractors said in 2019 has come to pass.

            I have been about as anti-Foster as anyone on the Fern. Even the good wins didn't move me, because I knew it wouldn't last.

            But I didn't predict this train wreck, no matter how much I dislike him. I still assumed he had some semblance of ability, if only from experience. I was certain the ABs would beat Argentina, and even suspected we would look good doing so.

            He's been far worse than I, or anyone else that I can think of, predicted.

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            • Chester DrawsC Chester Draws

              @antipodean said in Foster:

              Everything Foster's worst detractors said in 2019 has come to pass.

              I have been about as anti-Foster as anyone on the Fern. Even the good wins didn't move me, because I knew it wouldn't last.

              But I didn't predict this train wreck, no matter how much I dislike him. I still assumed he had some semblance of ability, if only from experience. I was certain the ABs would beat Argentina, and even suspected we would look good doing so.

              He's been far worse than I, or anyone else that I can think of, predicted.

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              @Chester-Draws said in Foster:

              He's been far worse than I, or anyone else that I can think of, predicted.

              Foster always exceeds expectations.

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              • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                DC doing some coaching in SA...I wonder if Fozzie has even asked him if he is keen to do some work with BB, RM and now 1 minute star, SP

                https://www.thesouthafrican.com/sport/rugby/all-blacks-legend-daniel-carter-to-coach-future-springboks-in-south-africa/?utm_term=Autofeed&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1661517536

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                @taniwharugby said in Foster:

                DC doing some coaching in SA...I wonder if Fozzie has even asked him if he is keen to do some work with BB, RM and now 1 minute star, SP

                DC has been helping out the Black Ferns, too.

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                • StargazerS Stargazer

                  @taniwharugby said in Foster:

                  DC doing some coaching in SA...I wonder if Fozzie has even asked him if he is keen to do some work with BB, RM and now 1 minute star, SP

                  DC has been helping out the Black Ferns, too.

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                  @Stargazer said in Foster:

                  @taniwharugby said in Foster:

                  DC doing some coaching in SA...I wonder if Fozzie has even asked him if he is keen to do some work with BB, RM and now 1 minute star, SP

                  DC has been helping out the Black Ferns, too.

                  I'd love him to try and teach BB and RM how to be an actual fucking first five at test level

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                  • StargazerS Stargazer

                    @taniwharugby said in Foster:

                    DC doing some coaching in SA...I wonder if Fozzie has even asked him if he is keen to do some work with BB, RM and now 1 minute star, SP

                    DC has been helping out the Black Ferns, too.

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                    taniwharugby
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                    #3142

                    @Stargazer yeah I pointed that out on another of the many threads discussing all this, think McCaw is speaking with the BF too.

                    I see more comments around player indisipline and decisions cant be put on Foster.

                    I disagree, these aspects of how a team play are born in the team culture.

                    Indisipline is from the frustration of how things are going and when things are not working.

                    I think Codie Taylor epitomises everything that is wrong in this team.

                    He is in probably the very worst form of his career, yet he keeps getting plenty of game time...where is the accountability for poor form/indisipline? There isnt any, and this has a ripple effect through everything that goes on, if there are no consequences for doing things poorly, why would you improve?

                    Those on the fringes see this lack of performance being rewarded, so what is going to make them strive for excellence?

                    So here we are again, IMO this all comes back round to Fozzie, and to a lesser extent Cane, thier leadership and the culture of averageness they seem to be accepting of, is ok because they are trying really hard.

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                    • TimT Tim

                      I was at Eden Park when the worst AB coach of all time, Mains, lost in 1994. We will lose to Australia this year, unless we get rid of these fucking losers.

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                      @Tim said in Foster:

                      I was at Eden Park when the worst AB coach of all time, Mains, lost in 1994. We will lose to Australia this year, unless we get rid of these fucking losers.

                      I am taking the family to that game. Last one we went to was when Clarke ripped the Aussies a new one, was a great afternoon.

                      My wife, who is indigenous Australian, is a rather vocal Wallabies fan. I've had a lot of fun the past 10 or so years giving her grief, but I am really worried that when the final whistle blows she is going to be returning that 10 fold. Fucking Foster is going to end my marriage as well as the ABs.

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                      • No QuarterN No Quarter

                        @Tim said in Foster:

                        I was at Eden Park when the worst AB coach of all time, Mains, lost in 1994. We will lose to Australia this year, unless we get rid of these fucking losers.

                        I am taking the family to that game. Last one we went to was when Clarke ripped the Aussies a new one, was a great afternoon.

                        My wife, who is indigenous Australian, is a rather vocal Wallabies fan. I've had a lot of fun the past 10 or so years giving her grief, but I am really worried that when the final whistle blows she is going to be returning that 10 fold. Fucking Foster is going to end my marriage as well as the ABs.

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                        @No-Quarter said in Foster:

                        @Tim said in Foster:

                        I was at Eden Park when the worst AB coach of all time, Mains, lost in 1994. We will lose to Australia this year, unless we get rid of these fucking losers.

                        I am taking the family to that game. Last one we went to was when Clarke ripped the Aussies a new one, was a great afternoon.

                        My wife, who is indigenous Australian, is a rather vocal Wallabies fan. I've had a lot of fun the past 10 or so years giving her grief, but I am really worried that when the final whistle blows she is going to be returning that 10 fold. Fucking Foster is going to end my marriage as well as the ABs.

                        I'm going too, and that was my last game too. It is a birthday pres to myself, but fuck me watching the bled walkng out the door won't be happy

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                        • No QuarterN No Quarter

                          @Tim said in Foster:

                          I was at Eden Park when the worst AB coach of all time, Mains, lost in 1994. We will lose to Australia this year, unless we get rid of these fucking losers.

                          I am taking the family to that game. Last one we went to was when Clarke ripped the Aussies a new one, was a great afternoon.

                          My wife, who is indigenous Australian, is a rather vocal Wallabies fan. I've had a lot of fun the past 10 or so years giving her grief, but I am really worried that when the final whistle blows she is going to be returning that 10 fold. Fucking Foster is going to end my marriage as well as the ABs.

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                          @No-Quarter said in Foster:

                          @Tim said in Foster:

                          I was at Eden Park when the worst AB coach of all time, Mains, lost in 1994. We will lose to Australia this year, unless we get rid of these fucking losers.

                          I am taking the family to that game. Last one we went to was when Clarke ripped the Aussies a new one, was a great afternoon.

                          My wife, who is indigenous Australian, is a rather vocal Wallabies fan. I've had a lot of fun the past 10 or so years giving her grief, but I am really worried that when the final whistle blows she is going to be returning that 10 fold. Fucking Foster is going to end my marriage as well as the ABs.

                          Sounds like a Stuff.co.nz headline!!!

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                          • MN5M MN5

                            @No-Quarter said in Foster:

                            @Tim said in Foster:

                            I was at Eden Park when the worst AB coach of all time, Mains, lost in 1994. We will lose to Australia this year, unless we get rid of these fucking losers.

                            I am taking the family to that game. Last one we went to was when Clarke ripped the Aussies a new one, was a great afternoon.

                            My wife, who is indigenous Australian, is a rather vocal Wallabies fan. I've had a lot of fun the past 10 or so years giving her grief, but I am really worried that when the final whistle blows she is going to be returning that 10 fold. Fucking Foster is going to end my marriage as well as the ABs.

                            Sounds like a Stuff.co.nz headline!!!

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                            @MN5 stolen from buzzfeed or another trash site lol.

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                            • TimT Tim

                              I was at Eden Park when the worst AB coach of all time, Mains, lost in 1994. We will lose to Australia this year, unless we get rid of these fucking losers.

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                              @Tim said in Foster:

                              We will lose to Australia this year, unless we get rid of these fucking losers.

                              Seriously though, after what transpired last week, unless Fozzie walks, there is zero chance he leaves, and lets just say he did leave or they did sack him, who would want to take this on right now?

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                              • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                                @Tim said in Foster:

                                We will lose to Australia this year, unless we get rid of these fucking losers.

                                Seriously though, after what transpired last week, unless Fozzie walks, there is zero chance he leaves, and lets just say he did leave or they did sack him, who would want to take this on right now?

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                                @taniwharugby said in Foster:

                                @Tim said in Foster:

                                We will lose to Australia this year, unless we get rid of these fucking losers.

                                Seriously though, after what transpired last week, unless Fozzie walks, there is zero chance he leaves, and lets just say he did leave or they did sack him, who would want to take this on right now?

                                After RC there is time for a no stress/low expectation NH tour

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                                • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                                  @Tim said in Foster:

                                  We will lose to Australia this year, unless we get rid of these fucking losers.

                                  Seriously though, after what transpired last week, unless Fozzie walks, there is zero chance he leaves, and lets just say he did leave or they did sack him, who would want to take this on right now?

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                                  Chester Draws
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                                  @taniwharugby

                                  A chance to coach the All Blacks? Loads of people would take it. Leon McDonald, say, or Clayton McMillan. They would have to wait decades to see their next chance.

                                  It's so bad now that most halfway qualified coaches would be a step up.

                                  Sure it would be a gamble, but I would rather see that than an inevitable decline further.

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                                  • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                                    @Tim said in Foster:

                                    We will lose to Australia this year, unless we get rid of these fucking losers.

                                    Seriously though, after what transpired last week, unless Fozzie walks, there is zero chance he leaves, and lets just say he did leave or they did sack him, who would want to take this on right now?

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                                    @taniwharugby said in Foster:

                                    @Tim said in Foster:

                                    We will lose to Australia this year, unless we get rid of these fucking losers.

                                    Seriously though, after what transpired last week, unless Fozzie walks, there is zero chance he leaves, and lets just say he did leave or they did sack him, who would want to take this on right now?

                                    I would. And I'd keep posting here post match too.

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                                      Michael Shannon Revolutionary Road -

                                      "Plenty of people are on to the emptiness, but, it takes real guts to see the hopelessness."

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                                        https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/opinion/300672814/new-zealand-rugby-stands-culpable-as-crumbling-all-blacks-sink-to-historic-ignominy

                                        Stuff are really putting the boots in. Finally

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                                          https://twitter.com/JamesMcOnie/status/1563683720124837888

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