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  • No QuarterN No Quarter

    Will we lose to SA? I mean they just lost to Wales at home so it sounds like they aren't exactly hot shit this year, not that I've watched. And if we win that's more than enough for NZR to claim we are "building towards the RWC", which is so offensive as an AB fan when we are giving up 100+ year records.

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    @No-Quarter said in Foster must go:

    Will we lose to SA? I mean they just lost to Wales at home so it sounds like they aren't exactly hot shit this year, not that I've watched. And if we win that's more than enough for NZR to claim we are "building towards the RWC", which is so offensive as an AB fan when we are giving up 100+ year records.

    Foster would give a bollock for a test win right now

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    • Jailbreak7J Jailbreak7

      @Victor-Meldrew said in Foster must go:

      @Tim said in Foster must go:

      @Victor-Meldrew Do you think he wants to be a head coach? He'd be my pick if he does.

      I haven't a clue. But who wouldn't want to coach the All Blacks and not just be a mentor? Persuade him to take over until RWC2023 for starters

      He'd be a safe pair of hands and then be able hand over to Rennie, Jesus, Joseph or another assistant.

      Like the thought of Jesus being an assistant

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      mofitzy_
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      #74

      @Jailbreak7
      According to some posters, he should be happy to be Fosters assistant and if he doesn't accept being an assistant then he doesn't deserve the top spot.

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      • MN5M MN5

        @BartMan said in Foster must go:

        @MN5 that was the only good thing to.cpmw.out of the test.

        The fact this result brings @BartMan out if hibernation says it all.

        Who next, @Red-Beard ? Any others ?

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        Donsteppa
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        #75

        @MN5 said in Foster must go:

        Who next, @Red-Beard ? Any others ?

        He seems happily ensconced on Twitter these days.

        Great to see @BartMan back - now he just needs to stay logged in 🙂

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        • DonsteppaD Donsteppa

          @MN5 said in Foster must go:

          Who next, @Red-Beard ? Any others ?

          He seems happily ensconced on Twitter these days.

          Great to see @BartMan back - now he just needs to stay logged in 🙂

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          Victor Meldrew
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          #76

          @Donsteppa said in Foster must go:

          @MN5 said in Foster must go:

          Who next, @Red-Beard ? Any others ?

          He seems happily ensconced on Twitter these days.

          Great to see @BartMan back - now he just needs to stay logged in 🙂

          A @Bartman appearance is as rare as a good AB performance these day...

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          • Jailbreak7J Jailbreak7

            @Victor-Meldrew said in Foster must go:

            @Tim said in Foster must go:

            @Victor-Meldrew Do you think he wants to be a head coach? He'd be my pick if he does.

            I haven't a clue. But who wouldn't want to coach the All Blacks and not just be a mentor? Persuade him to take over until RWC2023 for starters

            He'd be a safe pair of hands and then be able hand over to Rennie, Jesus, Joseph or another assistant.

            Like the thought of Jesus being an assistant

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            canefan
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            #77

            @Jailbreak7 said in Foster must go:

            @Victor-Meldrew said in Foster must go:

            @Tim said in Foster must go:

            @Victor-Meldrew Do you think he wants to be a head coach? He'd be my pick if he does.

            I haven't a clue. But who wouldn't want to coach the All Blacks and not just be a mentor? Persuade him to take over until RWC2023 for starters

            He'd be a safe pair of hands and then be able hand over to Rennie, Jesus, Joseph or another assistant.

            Like the thought of Jesus being an assistant

            Jesus?

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              mofitzy_
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              #78

              I pray we lose to SA and the Bled. Because the small sliver of hope is that it's enough to dump foster and go into the RWC with some optimism (justified or not).

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              • canefanC canefan

                @Jailbreak7 said in Foster must go:

                @Victor-Meldrew said in Foster must go:

                @Tim said in Foster must go:

                @Victor-Meldrew Do you think he wants to be a head coach? He'd be my pick if he does.

                I haven't a clue. But who wouldn't want to coach the All Blacks and not just be a mentor? Persuade him to take over until RWC2023 for starters

                He'd be a safe pair of hands and then be able hand over to Rennie, Jesus, Joseph or another assistant.

                Like the thought of Jesus being an assistant

                Jesus?

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                Victor Meldrew
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                #79

                @canefan said in Foster must go:

                @Jailbreak7 said in Foster must go:

                @Victor-Meldrew said in Foster must go:

                @Tim said in Foster must go:

                @Victor-Meldrew Do you think he wants to be a head coach? He'd be my pick if he does.

                I haven't a clue. But who wouldn't want to coach the All Blacks and not just be a mentor? Persuade him to take over until RWC2023 for starters

                He'd be a safe pair of hands and then be able hand over to Rennie, Jesus, Joseph or another assistant.

                Like the thought of Jesus being an assistant

                Jesus?

                Jesus Crobinson. He's a saviour according to some.

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                • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                  @canefan said in Foster must go:

                  @Jailbreak7 said in Foster must go:

                  @Victor-Meldrew said in Foster must go:

                  @Tim said in Foster must go:

                  @Victor-Meldrew Do you think he wants to be a head coach? He'd be my pick if he does.

                  I haven't a clue. But who wouldn't want to coach the All Blacks and not just be a mentor? Persuade him to take over until RWC2023 for starters

                  He'd be a safe pair of hands and then be able hand over to Rennie, Jesus, Joseph or another assistant.

                  Like the thought of Jesus being an assistant

                  Jesus?

                  Jesus Crobinson. He's a saviour according to some.

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                  canefan
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                  #80

                  @Victor-Meldrew said in Foster must go:

                  @canefan said in Foster must go:

                  @Jailbreak7 said in Foster must go:

                  @Victor-Meldrew said in Foster must go:

                  @Tim said in Foster must go:

                  @Victor-Meldrew Do you think he wants to be a head coach? He'd be my pick if he does.

                  I haven't a clue. But who wouldn't want to coach the All Blacks and not just be a mentor? Persuade him to take over until RWC2023 for starters

                  He'd be a safe pair of hands and then be able hand over to Rennie, Jesus, Joseph or another assistant.

                  Like the thought of Jesus being an assistant

                  Jesus?

                  Jesus Crobinson.

                  Thought so. I wouldn't want to be Fozz's assistant either. What does he have to gain, how much of himself can he tangibly give to the team without being the HC? Fozz is beyond redemption and Scott is the winningest coach in Super Rugby. I'm no Razor fanboy. But he needs to be given full control

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                  • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                    @canefan said in Foster must go:

                    @Jailbreak7 said in Foster must go:

                    @Victor-Meldrew said in Foster must go:

                    @Tim said in Foster must go:

                    @Victor-Meldrew Do you think he wants to be a head coach? He'd be my pick if he does.

                    I haven't a clue. But who wouldn't want to coach the All Blacks and not just be a mentor? Persuade him to take over until RWC2023 for starters

                    He'd be a safe pair of hands and then be able hand over to Rennie, Jesus, Joseph or another assistant.

                    Like the thought of Jesus being an assistant

                    Jesus?

                    Jesus Crobinson. He's a saviour according to some.

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                    Chris
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                    #81

                    @Victor-Meldrew said in Foster must go:

                    @canefan said in Foster must go:

                    @Jailbreak7 said in Foster must go:

                    @Victor-Meldrew said in Foster must go:

                    @Tim said in Foster must go:

                    @Victor-Meldrew Do you think he wants to be a head coach? He'd be my pick if he does.

                    I haven't a clue. But who wouldn't want to coach the All Blacks and not just be a mentor? Persuade him to take over until RWC2023 for starters

                    He'd be a safe pair of hands and then be able hand over to Rennie, Jesus, Joseph or another assistant.

                    Like the thought of Jesus being an assistant

                    Jesus?

                    Jesus Crobinson. He's a saviour according to some.

                    What the CEO Robinson ?

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                    • Jailbreak7J Jailbreak7

                      @Victor-Meldrew said in Foster must go:

                      @Tim said in Foster must go:

                      @Victor-Meldrew Do you think he wants to be a head coach? He'd be my pick if he does.

                      I haven't a clue. But who wouldn't want to coach the All Blacks and not just be a mentor? Persuade him to take over until RWC2023 for starters

                      He'd be a safe pair of hands and then be able hand over to Rennie, Jesus, Joseph or another assistant.

                      Like the thought of Jesus being an assistant

                      TimT Away
                      TimT Away
                      Tim
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                      #82

                      @Jailbreak7 He'd have the best water bottles.

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                      • BartManB BartMan

                        @stodders Foz has never done well as a head coach. 8 years of pain with the Chiefs, Ronnie takes 2 titles in his first 2 years.
                        Not his happy place - like Wayne Smith, but the poor man's version!

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                        #83

                        @BartMan Smith did exceptionally well as a head coach at Super rugby level

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                        • TimT Tim

                          Who would be the assistant coaches?

                          Jason Ryan (Fiji) and Tom Coventry (Samoa) have done good work as forward coaches for PI teams.

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                          Stag
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                          #84

                          @Tim Schmidt and MacDonald

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                          • CrucialC Crucial

                            Is this just a thread to vent? It’s a copy of every thread for the past year 😗

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                            @Crucial said in Foster must go:

                            Is this just a thread to vent? It’s a copy of every thread for the past year 😗

                            You must have mistaken this for the 'Above it All' thread.

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                            • StagS Stag

                              @Tim Schmidt and MacDonald

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                              canefan
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                              @Stag said in Foster must go:

                              @Tim Schmidt and MacDonald

                              MacDonald was awesome outcoaching Razor in the SR final. Oh wait....

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                              • StagS Stag

                                @BartMan Smith did exceptionally well as a head coach at Super rugby level

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                                BartMan
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                                #87

                                @Stag was meaning at AB level he was not flash. He got 2 titles at the Chiefs in the background too, along with the 2 as head of the Crusaders, his only real head coaching success?

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                                • P PecoTrain

                                  @canefan said in Foster must go:

                                  @Victor-Meldrew said in Foster must go:

                                  Would meet the (understandable) NZR requirement of continuity while being a pretty fresh broom with a proven track record at Test level.

                                  Before 2007 we had a slash and burn mentality. Continuity was the right decision then. But this isn't 2007, the GH/Shag coaching tree has outlived its time. Burn it all down

                                  Foster was the only part of the GH/Shag coaching tree that still existed at the end of 2019 as far as I can see. Arguably the tree is sprouting again with Cron coming back in as a mentor.

                                  But its less about the tree and more about cutting off the dead wood. At the end of 2019 the old wood sprouted legs and walked away leaving the NZRFU with the dead wood. Which they planted and have reaped the fruit of their decision.

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                                  BartMan
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                                  @PecoTrain yes, maybe one nepotism appointment, after WINNING a RWC is acceptable. But after losing the semi,.it should have been a new broom sweeping clean. It wasn't, and we're now here, lowest point in AB rugby ever.

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                                  • MN5M MN5

                                    @BartMan said in Foster must go:

                                    @MN5 that was the only good thing to.cpmw.out of the test.

                                    The fact this result brings @BartMan out if hibernation says it all.

                                    Who next, @Red-Beard ? Any others ?

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                                    Rancid Schnitzel
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                                    #89

                                    @MN5 said in Foster must go:

                                    @BartMan said in Foster must go:

                                    @MN5 that was the only good thing to.cpmw.out of the test.

                                    The fact this result brings @BartMan out if hibernation says it all.

                                    Who next, @Red-Beard ? Any others ?

                                    Davidav?

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                                      #90

                                      https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300638959/something-has-to-change-after-all-blacks-crumble-to-dispiriting-series-defeat

                                      Good the drums are beating to replace Foster.

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                                      • No QuarterN No Quarter

                                        @Duluth said in Foster must go:

                                        The realistic option is Schmidt

                                        He starts his AB contract right now. So no other logistics needed.

                                        Does he want a head coach role though?

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                                        @No-Quarter said in Foster must go:

                                        @Duluth said in Foster must go:

                                        The realistic option is Schmidt

                                        He starts his AB contract right now. So no other logistics needed.

                                        Does he want a head coach role though?

                                        My guess is he'd accept an interim role

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                                        • KirwanK Kirwan

                                          https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300638959/something-has-to-change-after-all-blacks-crumble-to-dispiriting-series-defeat

                                          Good the drums are beating to replace Foster.

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                                          Jailbreak7
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                                          @Kirwan said in Foster must go:

                                          https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300638959/something-has-to-change-after-all-blacks-crumble-to-dispiriting-series-defeat

                                          Good the drums are beating to replace Foster.

                                          Those drums need to beat a fuck load harder

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