All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship
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@reprobate said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
@No-Quarter said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
@Chris-B said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
@KiwiMurph I reckon we might see Jack Goodhue in the midfield - and perhaps Rieko back to the wing.
I like the idea of Goodhue and Rieko together, even though I haven't rated Goodhue at 12 in the past. Just think they might compliment each other well, Goodhue very organised on defense and good at putting his outsides away, while Rieko is always a massive threat with ball in hand and is a very good tackler.
That's a great and established combination... with Jack at 13 where he plays well and Rieko at 11 where he plays well.
Therein lies the problem, chop and change. If Rieko is the long-term 13 then play him there and select around him. Otherwise you get to the RWC and we still don’t know who our best centre pairing are.
@TheMojoman said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
@reprobate said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
@No-Quarter said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
@Chris-B said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
@KiwiMurph I reckon we might see Jack Goodhue in the midfield - and perhaps Rieko back to the wing.
I like the idea of Goodhue and Rieko together, even though I haven't rated Goodhue at 12 in the past. Just think they might compliment each other well, Goodhue very organised on defense and good at putting his outsides away, while Rieko is always a massive threat with ball in hand and is a very good tackler.
That's a great and established combination... with Jack at 13 where he plays well and Rieko at 11 where he plays well.
Therein lies the problem, chop and change. If Rieko is the long-term 13 then play him there and select around him. Otherwise you get to the RWC and we still don’t know who our best centre pairing are.
Goodhue is a better centre than Ioane right now. Low errors, excellent at setting up outsides, very good defender, good communicator. Rieko might turn into an amazing centre (he has improved), but that's not a given. For all the blame being heaped on our tight forwards, our defence out wide was shit all series, and he's part of that. He also blows tries pretty regularly with poor options (and creates tries pretty regularly with his pace).
Why not start them in the positions they are going to win us games in now, and Rieko gets to learn from Jack, and gets the last 20 minutes to put it into practice. Goodhue could easily still be our best option at 13 at the RWC. On the other hand, if Rieko becomes compelling at super level and in his opportunities at test level, then that's great and he will have been gaining experience from both doing the job and playing next to someone whose strengths are his weaknesses the whole time.
Jordan I'd go the other way with. Barring injury, I don't see any possibility that Barrett is a better fullback than him by RWC, and I don't think he is now. -
@Kiwiwomble the guy had a stellar super season ,and given they are going to walk into a firestorm once they hit South Africa I would rather an extra experienced head as opposed to some lightweight..Personally I think they will pick Josh Dickson ..just putting it out there
@Steven-Harris said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
@Kiwiwomble the guy had a stellar super season ,and given they are going to walk into a firestorm once they hit South Africa I would rather an extra experienced head as opposed to some lightweight..Personally I think they will pick Josh Dickson ..just putting it out there
I get what you’re saying…and won’t argue with the principle…but he’s only managed 18 tests since 2017! And I don’t think he’s played for the abs since 2021…is he actually bringing THAT much more experience at this level?
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@Steven-Harris said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
@Kiwiwomble the guy had a stellar super season ,and given they are going to walk into a firestorm once they hit South Africa I would rather an extra experienced head as opposed to some lightweight..Personally I think they will pick Josh Dickson ..just putting it out there
I get what you’re saying…and won’t argue with the principle…but he’s only managed 18 tests since 2017! And I don’t think he’s played for the abs since 2021…is he actually bringing THAT much more experience at this level?
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@Kiwiwomble Stephen Perofeta's name has not been mentioned. He didn't even get a run against Ireland. Is he going to be a 10,15 or used on the bench?
@SBW1 said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
@Kiwiwomble Stephen Perofeta's name has not been mentioned. He didn't even get a run against Ireland. Is he going to be a 10,15 or used on the bench?
You might have me confused with someone with any idea
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@FakatavaAllBlack said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
Bring back Boric!
Only 38yo, experience is so vital…
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@Steven-Harris said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
@Kiwiwomble the guy had a stellar super season ,and given they are going to walk into a firestorm once they hit South Africa I would rather an extra experienced head as opposed to some lightweight..Personally I think they will pick Josh Dickson ..just putting it out there
I get what you’re saying…and won’t argue with the principle…but he’s only managed 18 tests since 2017! And I don’t think he’s played for the abs since 2021…is he actually bringing THAT much more experience at this level?
@Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
And I don’t think he’s played for the abs since 2021
You're ready made for a media job with thinking like that!
2021 was less than a year ago mate.
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@Crucial said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
@Dan54 said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
DMac won't come in as he doesn't actually start his NZR contract until he plays NPC rugby I think, where as Pat T was on sabbatical and always under contract.
Not quite right. PT was in the same spot as DMac eligibility wise.
"At the All Blacks request, the New Zealand Rugby board has used its discretion to sign off Patrick Tuipulotu immediately joining the All Blacks squad as a replacement player after his return from a six month stint in Japan."
PT had played club rugby, as has DMac.
Pretty doubtful DMac would get an exemption.
Patty did because we had three locks out and extremely short notice.
DMac's would be only because we think he's a better player and we're in the shit.
If I were a board member I wouldn't approve it.
@Chris-B said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
DMac's would be only because we think he's a better player and we're in the shit.
You're at least half-right.
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@FakatavaAllBlack said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
Bring back Boric!
Only 38yo, experience is so vital…
@ACT-Crusader makes you wonder will Jimmy Gopperth finally get the call up!
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@ACT-Crusader makes you wonder will Jimmy Gopperth finally get the call up!
I feel like I'm entering a Deadpool 2 scene. This thread is going dark.
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@Chris-B said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
DMac's would be only because we think he's a better player and we're in the shit.
You're at least half-right.
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
@Chris-B said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
DMac's would be only because we think he's a better player and we're in the shit.
You're at least half-right.
Could DMac be a better 10 now I wonder?
But anyway the posters are right, what is the point now of us talking about the best players to be selected if we don't even know what is happening with the coaching?
(Thinks) well maybe it is hard to know what is happening with the coaching for some time now, anyway.. -
@ACT-Crusader makes you wonder will Jimmy Gopperth finally get the call up!
@FakatavaAllBlack said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
@ACT-Crusader makes you wonder will Jimmy Gopperth finally get the call up!
Come on mate let’s not get carried away, he’s only good enough for the All Blacks XV squad
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I reckon you couldn’t do any worse than Luke Ramano ,he will work his arse off ,carry hard into contact and you know your scrum will be rock solid on the right hand side ..
Was excellent for the Blues ..@Steven-Harris Wasted choice. A rental of a geriatric, who had a good game against the Brumbies and was solid the rest of the season at super rugby level. That would be a step backwards and conservative. His AB career ended a long time ago.
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@Steven-Harris Wasted choice. A rental of a geriatric, who had a good game against the Brumbies and was solid the rest of the season at super rugby level. That would be a step backwards and conservative. His AB career ended a long time ago.
@broughie said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
@Steven-Harris Wasted choice. A rental of a geriatric, who had a good game against the Brumbies and was solid the rest of the season at super rugby level. That would be a step backwards and conservative. His AB career ended a long time ago.
It's not a wasted choice if he's selected alongside newbies, or as cover from the bench while the likes of Vaai get starting gametime.
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You know what, fuck it!
Smith
Havili
Clarke
Goodhue
Ioane
Reece
JordanFakatava
Beauden
RTS/Jordie/Faingaanuku@Bones said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
You know what, fuck it!
Smith
Havili
Clarke
Goodhue
Ioane
Reece
JordanFakatava
Beauden
RTS/Jordie/FaingaanukuThat backline is told to score only in multiples of 5, right? So which one of the forwards will be taking PKs and conversions?
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@broughie said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
@Steven-Harris Wasted choice. A rental of a geriatric, who had a good game against the Brumbies and was solid the rest of the season at super rugby level. That would be a step backwards and conservative. His AB career ended a long time ago.
It's not a wasted choice if he's selected alongside newbies, or as cover from the bench while the likes of Vaai get starting gametime.
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@FakatavaAllBlack said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
@ACT-Crusader makes you wonder will Jimmy Gopperth finally get the call up!
Come on mate let’s not get carried away, he’s only good enough for the All Blacks XV squad
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@DaGrubster said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
Ideally we would send one or two to Europe for a season to accelerate their readiness but we would lose control of them if we that was possible.
We should have bought a club over there a while ago to blood players in the offseason. I can't see it happening for many reasons, not least of which NZR seem convinced that Super NZ is the pinnacle and all other competitions suck. Our insularity hurts us; playing SA AUS and others helps deal with different game plans, and how to travel and win. I think we'll miss them in the medium term (and it's hurting us already)
@nzzp
Agreed, I have always though we should have bought a club in Europe. Aside from the commercial opportunity it would have been great to have this option to expose coaches and players to European rugby -
@Bones said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
You know what, fuck it!
Smith
Havili
Clarke
Goodhue
Ioane
Reece
JordanFakatava
Beauden
RTS/Jordie/FaingaanukuThat backline is told to score only in multiples of 5, right? So which one of the forwards will be taking PKs and conversions?
@stodders said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
@Bones said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
You know what, fuck it!
Smith
Havili
Clarke
Goodhue
Ioane
Reece
JordanFakatava
Beauden
RTS/Jordie/FaingaanukuThat backline is told to score only in multiples of 5, right? So which one of the forwards will be taking PKs and conversions?
This one.
